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As far as quality, Grohe is truly the best of the best. I see this lasting a lifetime. You have to be careful to follow the instructions in the book when you install otherwise you will be circulating hot water into your cold water pipes in your house and around and around. LOL But if you follow all the instructions you will be good. Finish is beautiful, the little "illustrations" are solid plastic and not just stickers. The buttons all work great and everything is built very, very solidly. The fact that it's square is a huge plus if you are tiling the walls too.
One thing I really liked that wasn't clear on the Amazon page is that this comes with 7 different options of "plastic tab labels", so if you don't have your tub hooked up to this, then you can use a different one. There is one that is a clear handheld, a clear rainshower, and then a few others that are different "spray" shower heads. If you have two shower heads in your walk in, one for the husband and the wife, then it works really great if you put this in between the two, and you can even have matching labels. I love that it truly works for multiple people and it's SO easy to turn everything on and off, no more fiddling with handles and whatnot. Really a great, great thermostat with very fine tuned controls. I feel so spoiled now!


Prior to installing, you will need to buy Grohe Rapido Smartbox (Grohe 35601000) that is installed first & connects to the plumbing supply lines. It can’t hurt to purchase the Grohe specialized socket spanner & wrench (Grohe 19131000) (Grohe 19332000) or use your own plumber’s tools.
The GroheTherm is designed to accommodate any combination of three water flow outlets - (e.g., 1 shower head, 1 handheld sprayer, 1 tub faucet or substitute the tub faucet for two shower heads + handheld sprayer, etc.) If you only have two outlets, you may want to switch to Grohe’s two output models. Installation instructions are not as good as you tube videos, which I used. Installation is complicated with many steps, and as a DIYer who has installed many shower fixture upgrades and installed showers, I was still reluctant to tackle this job myself because it was an upgrade. I had to hire a plumber and he complained that he needed to charge more for installing this fixture due to the unexpected extra time involved.
One nice feature is that you can have the overhead shower head going and simultaneously use the handheld sprayer or other combinations. The water flow outlets will supply up to 2.5 GPM (constrained by the flow rate of a given fixture and water pressure in pipes). The icons for the GroheTherm controls can be customized according to your setup (i.e., shower head, tub faucet, handheld, etc.) and are included, so you choose which ones will be used. Another nice feature is protection from scalding water & adjustable water temperatures. I think the highest temperature setting is 108 degrees F. There is also a low flow water restrictor on the thermostatic valve for areas where this is mandatory.
The Grohe Rapido Smartbox (essential for this GroheTherm trim to function) lacks the shut-off (service stops) at the physical fixture (rough-in-box) like the old ones had, which may present difficulties, depending upon the situation. Without the ability for shut-off at the fixture, if you need to shut off the water to perform maintenance, or install a future upgrade, you will need to shut off the water to the entire house. You need to check your local plumbing codes to see if you will need to also buy and install service stops at the valve. If so, these service stop parts are Grohe 1405300M. This is straightforward for new installations but upgrades may require you to work in tight quarters. Old valves may need to be replaced. The new Grohe service stop valves are made of thermoplastic resin.










In addition to the cost of this unit, you will have to purchase hardware to install it in your wall. You will almost certainly want to have a professional prepare the plumbing to accommodate the controller. Unless you know what you're doing, I would not attempt to do this yourself!
So, in terms of quality and design, this is top-of-the-line! But be aware of the additional costs of actually getting it installed.


I do have one critique. The StarLight Chrome is not so magical as it is described. It is an attractive shiny surface that looks good, but definitely needs care to avoid those permanent water marks that have made a mess of some of my Grohe fixtures even after I tried resorting to harsher cleaners like Comet. There is an easy solution -- after each use, use your towel to wipe off any water droplets on the surface. This is not a big deal for me, but may be for some living situations.
Overall, I am very happy with this trim design, but not blown away by the quality of the finish.




The temperature controls are so nice to have in the shower. You can really dial into your favorite temperature and it makes the shower so enjoyable. It also works great with multiple heads or sprayers. Best of all, though, is the quality of this unit. It's not a cheap device that will fail in a couple of years. It's really awesome. Installation looked a little complicated. Thankfully it was for a remodel and a plumber took care of it. I would probably recommend a professional installation.




