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Note that this sprayer does not come with a necessary o-ring for use with hose.


First of all, the design of this such that you have to replace the entire handle instead of just the rubber cover, is planned obsolescence. You also can't replace or clean the aerator end cap. Right off the bat, this is a poor product.
I would just resign myself to that product sales driven disappointment and go on with otherwise enjoying it, if this thing did the actual job it was supposed to do, correctly.
Another slavish design aspect, rather than have a positive valve, the stream/spray valve is spring loaded. This is so that if you turn it off in spray mode, it comes back on into stream mode, automatically. That's nice, except that apparently the spring isn't weak enough? At full blast, it properly closes and you get only the stream. At anything less than that, both sides open and the spray starts dripping. Right down the side of the glass you're filling up, for example.
So awful.
None of the 3 I replaced had this problem. All of them just had the sticky rubber problem.


To let the hose retract into the faucet... otherwise you have to fish it out) screw the retaining flange back on, check for leaks and done. 5 minute job. There are YouTube videos out there as well. I’m happy with this. Much cheaper and easier to replace this one piece than the whole faucet.

(I am a “plumber/contractor”)
If you do it once, you will never look at it as a “challenge” again.
The superior German engineering shines through on every bit of this valve.
The Grohe rapido box required (pt# 35601) to install this 3 way diverter valve is where the whole job comes together.
A 2x4 Wall with the the center stud notched to receive a 1x6” piece of pine Board is all you need to secure the rapido rough box.
Level it, Screw it, done... easy.
Connect the water with 3/4 full size female adaptors (if you can)... Bring 3/4 to the inlet of this valve.... period..(my recommendation) The stability/volume of flow when running all ports at once will really be worth it..
I’m at a cumulative 3 fixture 10 gpm flow rate @ 55 psi street side water pressure.
I have all grohe shower heads with 2 max flow ratings at 2.5 gpm
Euphoria cube (shower head)
Grohe mono 310 (shower head ceiling)
Plus a grohe “cube” spray at 1.75 gpm.
All purchased on Amazon.
Tile redi shower pan 32x60 w lineal drain also purchased on amazon
(Tile installer notice)
Tile cut dimensions should be cut very tight to this box. The trim is not very large, and you will see a cut that is spaced any further than 1/4” away from the blue rapido box. Trust me on this! See pic..
Avoid the integral stops if you can..
They are cheap plastic, and not worth what a few ball valves can do in an access panel or basement access.
Installing the the valve internals into the body is straight forward. Just take your time..
make sure the volume knob splines get trimmed to the face of the orange jig caps, no more, no less..
I’ve installed 100’s of showers, I used to only recommend the symmons temptrol, but now I recommend this valve for high end applications only.
It’s very durable, and when piped correctly you will be impressed with the volume of flow and pressure this valve can produce.
Your only problem following this install should be the annoyance of running out of hot water!



Now comes the "But..."
1) Be warned, installation is NOT for amateurs. My very experienced plumber even said it was really fussy and complicated to put together -- lots of springs and little pieces to get in place on the trim side. I looked at the exploded schematic and it made my head spin.
2) I had a a mishap with the valve (ahem, it involved a "helpful" man, a drill, and installing shelves in the linen closet behind the shower). After several panicked phone calls to plumbing supply places, a got confirmation direct from Grohe that the valve and the trim only come as one unit. You cannot buy just the valve or just the trim. So be aware, if anything happens to one part, you're going to have to pay another $400+ for the whole component. OUCH.
I'm giving it 4 stars only for price, the fact you have to buy the Smartbox separately, and replacement parts are all or nothing.
Otherwise I'm pretty sure it's the fanciest and nicest thing in my whole house.


Product as expected.
But only with one of the grohe tempesta the paint had gone from one of the hose pipe. I was little dissapointed...😒 Otherwise the material are good.




Now, for the negative. Volume control is useless. They don’t tell you (until you call Grohe support) that the volume control only reduces the output by a measly 10%! What a waste. It’s barely noticeable from full on to full off. Not like the Symmons volume control that takes the flow down to a trickle. That’s what I expected here. That’s the only way to save water while you suds up. This unit isn’t going to allow me to save any water, which was super important to me. And, the write-up says volume goes from ‘Eco mode’ to full - a 10% flow difference is NOT eco.
I’m so disappointed and, sadly, stuck with this unit. Can’t do anything about it now that it’s built into the tile wall. In my opinion, one of the three main features of this unit doesn’t work, thus the low rating.

