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一番困っているのは、ネットワークアダプターがインストールできないことです。ネットワークに繋げないPCなど聞いたことがありません。asus/Intel/口コミ などいろいろ調べて、いろいろダウンロードもしてインストールもしましたがダメです。なんといって、インターネットにつながらないのですから、外付けのハードディスクを古い現用のPCにつないでダウンロードし、USBを新しいPCにつなぎ替えてインストールするのです。そのバカバカしさは言いようがありません。USB-LAN変換器を使って居る人の話を読みましたが、新品に取り替えたら治ったという記事もありました。やはり返品しようかと考えています。

1日一回は突然きれてしまい、どうしようもありません

フロントパネル用USB3が1CH死んでいました。
信頼していたブランドなので残念です。

The have this fancy Ai suite 3, with 5 way optimization that over clocks your pc at a touch of a button.
However they have nothing to revert those settings back to stock clock.
I wrote to Asus technical support and they answered that I have to start placing pins and conductors in two small holes in the mother board to reset the i7 back to normal clock.
This is ridiculous...for someone who is building for the first time it sounds so outdated, nearly impossible. Imagine if every time we had to start a car we had to open the hood, and start shorting connectors and pins etc...
I do not know if Asus simply do not understand how inefficient their proposal is, or is it me who is going nuts?
First we have to open the case. By the way, NEVER unscrew a thermal panel while its facing up. God forbid if that panel falls 1 inch to the floor right on the corner of the glass, it will shatter into a thousand pieces.
After opening the case we have to locate pin 13 is some lost god forsaken place of the mother board. Then we have to perform acrobatics with a metallic pin so as to place it in 2 holes. Then we have to pull out power, then and then etc....I don't understand. Somebody explain to me why its so complicated to revert a simple setting back to stock?

Found that out the hard way.



For me its a 10/10, replacing my apple and lenovo computers for something better to use with my universal audio, focusrite and avid products. It does adobe, protools, games, etc perfectly
for the normal user. this is easily a 5/10 just because the price is double that of an average Z or X board. (also if you are not a professional or using tb3, what are you using intel for anyway? AMD is a better value for most people!)
I cant comment on the Tb3 graphics, but you have to plug in your display out, to the display in on the motherboard, and it is NOT hot swapable.
It looks crazy having a display cable go from your graphics card to your motherboard. Honestly, this board is probably too complicated for someone who just wants game on tb3, as there is bandwidth sharing between tb3/pcie/m2/integrated graphics.
I would just wait, unless you want to figure that out...
the tb3 is like having an integrated asus extb3 card, instead of actual integrated tb3.
overall grade isnt high enough to recommend to someone, but honestly its a bad ass board.


well made , I was surprised buy the sheer weight , well made . I like the fact that it does NOT have wifi . Their are 2 versions of this board , one with , and one with out WIFI . The one with out has 2 USB 2.0 hubs while the one with has only one .
RGB lights are minimal on this , which I like , I paired this with a Fractal Design Celsius+ S24 AIO cooler and the board is has and handles the pump and 2 fans no problem in PWM mode , . I can also hook up the rgb lights on the cooler head to the board directly and it handles it just fine . I have 2 fan headers for the CPU fans and one pump header .
Memory was a snap using some Gskill DDR2666 just popped it in and set the main timings and off to the races . No fidling around for days setting up memory timings , Best board I have ever seen to handle memory training
Very easy to setup with many tweaking options . And fast wow ! paired it with a core I3 10100 and it is like having a 7700K, good enough until prices come down on a I5 1600K
CONS: EDIT
Bios can be tricky to figure out if You dig into it you will see under the tools menu " download asus app guard"
seems that asus is putting some auto download into their bios , BAD IDEA ASUS !
Their are many memory training settings to mess with here , on the scale of about 20 different settings , No kidding ! took me a week to figure these out but the main ones you want to enable are " turnaround timing" and latency " it took time for the board to auto set the correct memory settings
By default ALL and I mean all power saving C-states and P-states are disabled be on the look out for that
also all PCIE power savings by default are disabled , with both of these in the default settings I found the board unstable . I also disabled " memory scrambler" that helped
Board Is picky on memory my Gskill ddr2666 ended up being a flop I had some corsair CMW16GX4M2C3200C16 that worked on hand , now much better running at XMP 3200 stable
Bios 1001 seems to be the most stable bios 1208 is a flop
No usb 2.0 ports on the IO , just on the headers , had to buy a usb motherboard header to go in the rear of the case .
Final thoughts : Very happy with the product ASUS has upped their game with a board that does NOT have a lot of bells and whistles and that is a plus in my book . She runs fast , boots fast . Tip have the latest bios ready I installed version 1001 and it is solid good basic Z490 board that will not break the bank. Tried those buggy AMD boards , are they faster ? sure , are they stable UH, NO ! cant go wrong with Intel for stability


It does share bandwidth but most motherboards do at this price range.
T3 will be disabled if you populate the PCIEx16_3 slot. I have the 10G card using the PCIEx16_2 slot. The trade-off being my GPU is running at 8x, but I get to keep my T3 enabled. My setup is for video editing so 8x is enough for my needs.
M.2_1 can run as PCIE or SATA Mode, but if you set it as SATA it will disable SATA2, however, I don't see the need to run at SATA as PCIE is faster.
M.2_2 can run as PCIE 4x or 2x. At 4x it will disable SATA56 (5 and 6). But if you run it at 2x, you will still be able to use SATA56.
It's a good looking board, Mac Pro-like.

I don't overclock, so no idea on that situation but the bios was easy to use you could even navigate with your mouse.
I have the arctic 34 e DUO and it was 100% compatible. I've also read that most noctuah coolers work as well.

Raising from 3 stars to 4 stars.
My problem centered around Mirror Raiding two M2 drives to act as a boot volume. The root of the problem turned out to be the Windows Media Creation Tool which bunged up the USB Stick installation media such that the installation would run but always ask for a driver as no storage device to install on could be seen.
The solution was that I used the Media Creation Tool to down load the ISO but then used a freeware utility name RUFUS to create the USB Install media.
I probably should have gotten to the point of questioning the install package earlier but it all looked and acted legit. Once I went the RUFUS route, there was no issue seeing the RAIDed M2's to install Win10 on.
What would have helped was just to get a straight answer from ASUS about anything. Since the install I have not had any issues with the ProArt mother board but there are many features I've yet to test, it's in use but not for prime time yet.
I will re-wire probably the entire review later but wanted to get this in to say at least as it stands, I am happy with the performance of the board and as long as tech support from ASUS isn't required, a person should be good to go.
Update 14Feb21
Intel
Intel phone support concerning their RST driver was a complete bust but posting in the Intel Forum got a great response from tech support and Intel confirmed their RST driver has no limitation for using only Intel brand drives in an M.2 RAID. THANK YOU INTEL for an actual relevant, technically valid, response!!
Corsair
The limited contact I've had with Cosair regarding drivers has been cordial, friendly but weeks apart so mostly they have been MIA.
ASUS Tech Support
The UGLY part of the good, the bad and the Ugly. I've had numerous exchanges with ASUS via email.
I asked why I was told only Intel brand RAIDed M.2's would been seen by the Intel Windows RST driver, after I informed them that Intel has confirmed that limitation does not exist, numerous exchanges but I have not received an answer to that question.
The ASUS's response has been that I should RMA my board, send it in to get it checked.
Let's examine what is wrong with the RMA response.
ASUS either knows the M.2 drives will RAID and be usable as a boot volume, in which case why are they withholding that information?
Or ASUS doesn't know that a M.2 RAID volume will work as a boot drive. If ASUS doesn't know then the easiest thing for them to do is grab a ProArt motherboard, slap a couple of M.2's on it and find out. Surely ASUS is set up to test motherboards and Windows 10 and they don't need my motherboard as they would need to test the function on known, good hardware
It makes absolutely no sense to send my motherboard for verification of a feature if ASUS doesn't even know if the feature will work, (regardless that pre-sale I was told it would), or for some inexplicable reason ASUS is withholding the answer.
My comment back; send me another board to test if ASUS believes my hardware is bad, answer, We con't do advanced exchanges. Note: If I really thought my hardware was bad, I'd RMA or buy another from Amazon, then send the original in.
In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the hardware because; in the BIOS the M.2's are seen, RAIDed and a volume created. The Intel RST section in the BIOS see's the drives as bootable but the general ASUS part of the BIOS does not seen the volume as a bootable device.
There is a warning when disabling compatibility boot mode in the bios that PCIe / M2's to be used as a boot device must have a secure key written to the device. The ASUS BIOS has a utility to write the key, but it too fails to see the RAIDed Volume as a "valid file system" to write a key to
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ALL in the BIOS, Intel RST says a healthy bootable volume exists; ASUS sees the volume but not as a bootable device and will not write a secure key to it.
To that end, I have directly asked ASUS the question below.
Please confirm that a properly functioning ProArt motherboard will RAID two M.2 PCIe drives into a volume that can be seen by a Windows 10 as a boot drive to install on.
So far I don't believe I have received an actual direct answer from ASUS to any technical question, this time I specifically asked for a direct answer - results pending.
--Original--
This is a preliminary review and I'm sure it will be adjusted.
I bought the ProArt because I'm not a gamer, I want stability and it has a nice array of M.2 and SATA slots.
Before buying I contacted Asus support and asked if I could RAID two M.2 PCIE drives for the Windows 10 OS installation and support confirmed I could.
Still after buying what I needed and being concerned about the M.2 configuration, I built a minimum configuration:
750W PS
Motherboard
Intel 10700K,
Noctura NU-12S CPU Fan / Heatsink
32 Gigs of Crucial Ballistix (2x16) from the QVL (qualified Vendor List)
Two Corsair MP510 480M.2 drives.
(No SATA devices, no add in cards.)
No problems getting it to come to life, and though it took a bit of research to figure out how to set up the M.2's as RAIDed in the BIOS, I got there. I will fill in the details when I do the re-write.
I down loaded the latest version of Windows 10 using the Microsoft Media Creation tool, putting the installation files on a thumb drive.
Trying the install only got me a few screens in; because the only existing storage was the RAIDed M2's and Windows couldn't see the RAID volume and asked for me to browse to a driver.
I tried the latest Intel RST (Rapid Storage Technology) driver available from Asus, no change
I tried the latest Intel RST driver from Intel, no change.
In the BIOS the finishing steps are to to set up the RAID volume in the BIOS, in the Intel RST section. So the RAID volume created in the BIOS by Intel RST couldn't be seen by the latest Intel (F6) RST driver, hmm.
There are a number of potential BIOS settings than can be changed and I tried them all, or believe I did, no luck.
I did a bunch of reading on Intel's site and for their M.2 drives Intel has a Native Client Driver for M.2 drives, for Windows, I'm not 100% sure of applicability and it was only for Intel drives.
So off to ask Corsair if they had "Native Client drivers, they didn't get back to me for quite some time, and the exchange has not been satisfactory, they never answered the driver question and after some weeks offered yesterday to RMA the drives, which aren't bad. That would be a boondoggle.
At the same time I opened a case up with Asus asking if they knew if only Intel M.2 drive could be used for a Windows 10 installation, some of the Asus and Intel tech docs seemed to suggest that is the case, but I really wanted confirmation before buying another set of M2's.
Asus sent me a feedback form for the Motherboard. It was quite literally a blank word document, an obvious FooBar but I supplied a lot of detail and sent it back. As expected it was not enough detail and this time I received a feedback form with data fields, which I filled out and again sent back consuming some days. Then more exchanges of information.
To shortcut the process I sent screen shots from the details of the BIOS revision, to the details of the M.2 RAID Volume configuration in the BIOS, to Windows asking for a driver and the driver revisions tried.
After escalating the ticket I finally received
"That is correct, that the Intel Windows RST driver will only see an M.2 PCIE array if the array was created using Intel M.2 drives."
My comment back was if support knew that only Intel drives could be used, why all the data exchanges to get there, it was an original question. I didn't think to mention that it would have been nice if that point had been made when I asked originally the question pre-purchase about RAIDing M.2's. Also it would be incredibly helpful to include detail such as that in the minimalist motherboard "manual".
I had also contacted Intel, and again after a number of data exchanges resulting in my sending them the same screen shots I sent to Asus, and asking if only Intel drives could be used. Well never answering the question directly Intel eventually send me back a link to an Optane Memory configuration guide.
OK so am I being told by inference that only Intel M.2 drives can be used? And that the drives have to be Optane versions? Well except that I've read Optane drives look to the system like 2 devices and if I'm correct (based on research) only 1 M.2 Optane drive is supported.
I've asked Intel for clarification and was supposed to get it today, but not yet.
As said it's tough gig being a consumer, at least if you expect some straight, to the point answers from tech support.
If Intel confirms only Intel drives can be used and if they don't have to be Optane drives I will buy a pair and soldier on. Otherwise, it will likely be the backup plan of RAIDed SATA SSD's for the OS. Either way I will update the results. The only reason for writing now is maybe it will save a little pain for someone else.
1/28/21 I received a reply from Intel telling me I couldn't pair a SATA and an M.2 drive together for a RAID volume. This was of course totally ignoring that I sent them screen shots of the already RAIDed M.2 drives configured as PCIE devices.
While I specifically tried to not offend the person (all the exchanges have been by email) and said so, I asked if I could be referred to English language support., I have grown weary of getting answers to questions I haven't asked while the technically sound, limited and specific questions I have asked are ignored. Maybe I'll get an answer and maybe it will mean a new support ticket but not giving up yet.
It should not be too much to ask of Intel, to know what types of devices their Windows RST driver will support.

I did have issues first installing it with the Intel NIC that many others have reported. I had a USB to Ethernet adapter available. Had to install Clean W10, install my USB to Ethernet adapter. Do full Windows update and driver update from Asus. Did also do a firmware update on the NIC. After that, the network adapter was recognized and available. After this, no issues at all. Still waiting for Intel to get I9 10900K back in stock. Running a I9 10850K today. LOVE the performance of 10850K (Just a tadd slower than 10900K)(had G5900 installed first)
Whish that ASUS and Intel could be more upfront with the issues regarding the network adapter and provide a workaround for users that don't have USB to ethernet adapters available.

I just really wish the rgb stuff worked better since I plugged in a bunch of stuff to this board and I'm stuck with it all running in default. It still looks really cool though, maybe I'll find a work around down the road. Also I think it put some apps on my windows I didnt really want. All in all it feels pretty high end for the money and it looks incredibly well built and tuf.

Given there is no TUF series for Z490 chipset, that led me to the ProArt series. It looks very feature rich and of similar quality. I've enjoyed years of stability with the TUF series and expected similar things from ProArt.
It is not as rigid as the TUF series (no aluminum dust guard plating), but appears to use similar components which is great. The deal breaker is not having a TPM header. Many environments require a TPM for private key storage of solutions like Windows Bitlocker, Windows Hello and other security key types. While I work remote, this puts my main machine out of compliance and is highly annoying. I had to return it.
Lastly, a 4pin case fan extension will probably be needed for you. Older boards have the header towards the front of the boards where the SATA/USB case connectors go. It was moved closer to the CPU.
I'm sure this is a good board, but it shouldn't be called Pro without commonplace Pro features.



And before you think I'm just some random idiot who can't mount a board properly, I decided to get the TUF Gaming version as a replacement (since it must pass military standards) and it's working great! Funny how testing the hardware makes so much difference. Maybe there's something to that after all.
BTW, the TUF version is also $20 cheaper than this one and includes Wifi and Bluetooth. You're welcome.


Technically it's a great board, just really pissed off that Asus can't get it's act together on it's promotional material and specs.

