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Сириус-7JQOB
08.04.2010
2/10
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There is a very high failure rate in these drives. I bought 4 of them and within 6months all of them have begun the click of death....the click of the heads resetting. A simple google search shows that the Seagate Barracuda has an extremely high failure rate and this click of death is very common among this drive between 500-1.5tb and firmware cc34-cc37. Could be different sizes and firmware but those are the ones I have specifically looked for.
Гиперион-6MBII
22.06.2009
2/10
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This drive has a known reliability issue with a failure rate of around 30-40% after a few months of use. Thousands of people have reported the same error (just search the Internet for the model number). The problem is with the firmware shipped with the drive (SD15). You must upgrade the firmware to SD1A or it will all of the sudden stop working. If your drive hasn't failed yet, you can upgrade the firmware yourself using a tool provided by Seagate. But if the drive has already failed you have no choice but to have a data recovery service upgrade the firmware for you. I found this out because one of my drives turned into a brick with no warning. Fortunately after I called Seagate technical support, and persisted that the problem was with the drive firmware and not my computer, they agreed to fix the drive and perform data recovery for free. This entire process took 7 days, during which I was without a computer. But when I got the drive back, it worked fine and no data was lost. Still, the is the worst experience I've ever had with a hard drive, and I am never going to buy a Seagate product again. They should have issued a recall and advised all owners to upgrade the firmware *before* the drives failed instead of ignoring the problem for several months.
Кварковец-2LMVJ
24.08.2009
4/10
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I bought two of these HDDs a little less than a year ago due to its good reviews here and installed them on my Windows Home Server.However, after 10 months, one of them just bricked. I couldn't even mount it on a different computer. The BIOS wouldn't even recognize the drive.Luckily WHS did a great job replicating my data to the other HDD.After doing some research, I found out that these models have a firmware issue where the drive simply bricks itself. See article below.[...]While I'm not sure about the failure rate specified on the article above, search results indicate this to be a fairly common problem.Seagate is currently shipping me a replacement under warranty. However, under their terms, they'll be shipping a refurbished HDD and not a new one. I'll be adding this refurbished drive in my WHS, but already expecting it to brick sometime in the future.The reason for the 2 stars instead of 1, is that I like to be fair and these drive do have good performance and are fairly quiet. They do run a bit hot, but not an issue for me.
Небулоид-1WWXK
19.10.2009
2/10
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I swore by Seagate until I have had 3x 500gb drives and 1tb 7200.11 drives all fail on me in less than a year. They offered data recovery services for some outrageous fee. They consistently delete and edit their forums to try to skirt the thousands of angry users of their drives - myself included. I smell a class action lawsuit on the horizon.Use these for backups - if you never want to sleep another good night.Trust your family pictures to these foolish hard disk manufacturers only if you want a shoddy product and even shoddier customer support.
Небулоид-8CQOW
28.01.2009
2/10
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I bought two of these in December. Within two weeks of installing them they had failed. A week ago they released new firmware that supposedly fixes the problem yet other users are reporting that the new firmware "turned many hard drives to paperweights". I haven't installed the new firmware yet but I'm hoping it'll come back to life long enough to copy the data onto another brand of hard drive.Lesson #1: RAID isn't backup. If you put two of these drives into your RAID5 and both go bad you lose everything on all of the drives in the RAID. RAID5 can tolerate one failure not two.Lesson #2: Check more carefully for user reviews before buying. I had heard of problems but I thought these were limited to the 1.5TB drives. Most 7200.11 drives seem to be affected by this regardless of capacity.Lesson #3: Check for firmware updates before putting any data on the drives. In my case I don't think the firmware fix was out before I started using the disks but typically the drives ship with old firmware. When there is a problem like this drives continue to ship with deadly firmware even after the fix is available.Latest firmware update: http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207951One of many discussion threads about the problem: http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?82638
ТерраБот-7LRFZ
17.01.2009
2/10
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This drive failed in 3 weeks. It was running with a bunch of other hard drives I have, but this is the first time I've had something that failed so quickly. I switched over to Western Digital Green quickly-- by far the best switch I ever made.Let's compare the latest Seagate with the latest Western Digital technologies. My Green 1T WD drives have been running for a few months without any problems so far. It's by far the quietest drives I've ever gotten, certainly much quieter than any of the Seagate Barracuda drives. It's also the most vibration free drives (Seagate is a bit noisier) and cool running-- heat shortens the lifespan of everything. The return policy for WD is much more hastle free-- you put in your credit card number and they'll hold the fees, and mail you a new drive immediately until you return the defective one, upon which they'll refund the credit card fees. Compare that to Seagate's return policy where they want to CHARGE you a set amount of cost if you want them to send you a replacement while you still have the defective drive.Your 5 year Seagate warranty is useless when you lose data, and hundreds of man-hours. Guess what, Slash Dot headline today says "Seagate Hard Drive Fiasco Grows." Ha! I used to use Seagate exclusively, but I'm no longer using them for at least a few years until they clean up.
Сириус-5VFRS
08.11.2009
10/10
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I have no clue why others rate this as poor.I purchased it and have it for sometime now it's almost noiseless and worth the $$. Maybe they had a bad purchase and had to return and get a new one I don't know but so far so good.Thumbs up on speed rate too.
ХроноГость-9TWNR
03.02.2009
2/10
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Bought new, this drive as installed in an Intel Quadx2 Power Mac. After 3 months it started making a whisking sound and the system no longer recognized it.Getting technical support has been a study of delay and frustration. The phone support is "temporarily unavailable" but they apologize for that. Getting online support has consisted of looking through their library and waiting 4 wks on the average for replies to email requests for help. The replies are stock answers which make me think that they are not even reading the problem.Warranty replacement is available, but right now I am trying to find out if I can restore any of the data before I give up the drive. They will not return the original.As a backup drive, getting not that much traffic, it sucks.SEP 09 UPDATE: Seagate must have received many complaints because they admitted that the problem was with the firmware. They remedied the problem and set up a program in which they fixed the problem with the drive, restored the data, paid for the postage and got it back to me within a week. So I revise my review to recommending the drive since it has worked fine since then.
НеоВояжер-9ZZLK
21.01.2009
2/10
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You can expect it to work great long enough for you to copy a lot of data onto it, then one fine day you boot up and BIOS cannot detect it. Not just a problem with drives manufactured in Thailand, mine was made in China. So it's a design problem, not a production problem, and apparently in the firmware.To date Seagate has basically stonewalled on the dead drives while making muddled attempts to provide firmware upgrades for drives still working. Meanwhile they continue to market these defective products. (What are you supposed to do when you're in a hole? Stop digging.)Update as of 15 Aug 2010 (foregoing was originally posted in Jan 2009):I'm surprised to see so many reports of the firmware issue a year and a half after it started appearing. Must be a lot of old drives still in stock and selling slowly due to the bad reputation.I was able to repair the drive using techniques described on the web (not for the technically timid, but desperate times call for desperate measures), and in fairness I'll state I've had no problem with the drive in the year and a half since (but you better believe I have it well and truly backed up).
НоваГость-9ZDDB
20.02.2009
2/10
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I bought this drive on Sept 26, 2008. Amazon was right on with shipping and delivery.The drive went south and was not longer recognized by the BIOS or the OS (Vista). Trying to get help and/or warranty service from Seagate is just NOT an option. Seagate has turned a deaf ear on all of their users. Go to their website and read some of the posts.As I am writing this I am in queue with Seagate on speakerphone and I've been listening to their catchy tune for about an hour.I have since purchased a 1TB Western Digital from Amazon. Again Amazon has been great and the WD drive is working great.I RECOMMEND THAT ALL STAY AWAY FROM ANY SEAGATE PRODUCT. I ALSO RECOMEND THAT AMAZON REVIEW THEIR WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH SEAGATE. SOME MAY CONSIDER THIS A PROBLEM WITH AMAZON.PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK AMAZON SHOULD BE DEALING WITH A VENDOR THAT DOES NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCTS.Ron
Астероид-7NZTY
27.12.2008
4/10
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Hmm...shoulda looked at more of the reviews before I made my purchase. Silly me for not paying a little more for the "enterprise" version of this drive. In short, these units shipped 11/26/2008 and the drive I affectionately named Bastion died 12/26/2008. And this merely after formatting the drive with nary a byte written. Thank God I didn't place anything valuable on there. I'll admit that I tend to run my drives for long stretches of time, but they're always in a temperature-controlled environment with plenty of airflow in the external eSATA chassis. In any case, I'll be backing up the other two drives post haste. With the "infant mortality" rate this line is seeing, I'm surprised there hasn't been more blowback from the public directed at Seagate. So I guess I'll be RMA'ing this one, but like the others, I don't expect I'll see much better quality in return. Seriously, Seagate, are you silently slipping Maxtor parts into your consumer drives? What are you smoking?!
Спектроник-8WMSR
23.11.2008
6/10
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Плохо
I bought 4 of these for a RAID5 setup in September. So far I've had two of them fail. One was a hard failure in which the controller stopped working completely, and the other is showing a lots of seek errors in the SMART data and tells me its going to fail soon. They both started clicking the heads (a symptom of a reset because of an error) just a few days after I got them.Seagate replaced the total failure within a couple of days after I reported it, and now I have to ship them back the failed drive. I bought a new unit I'm expecting tomorrow as a spare replacement, and I will be reporting and shipping back the drive with all the seek errors soon.The drives have otherwise been great, but 50% isn't such a good reliability statistic, and that's my primary measure for a drive.On the other hand, I did buy two other drives from the same family, two ST3500320AS drives. They have been working away flawlessly in my workstation in a RAID1 setup since I got them.
Нейрон-9MYNP
25.01.2009
10/10
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After reading reviews of improper packaging (styro peanuts and plastic wrap that could cause static...thus shorting-out the drive), I was plesantly surprised to find the packaging more than proper. The box was large for the item (400 cubic inches), and contained 3 layers of cushioning foam rubber...the center layer cut-out in the shape of the drive. The drive itself was wrapped in anti-static foil-type plastic wrap...found on most electronics. The only problem I had was the drive did not come with screws for installation. I had to obtain the proper screws from a local retailer (not really a problem...but it should have come with screws). Am I pleased? Absolutely! 1-Tb hard drive! Who could not be pleased?! Works great, and runs quietly.
Астероид-8TXOO
02.05.2009
2/10
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I bought this (ST31000340AS 1TB Barracuda) drive in October of 2008 and it died yesterday after only seven months. The BIOS no longer recognizes it.While I won't purchase another Barracuda, I may purchase another Seagate model because I've had good luck with this vendor's equipment in the past. Perhaps there are reliability issues with this particular model.
Кварковец-6QXGL
27.12.2008
10/10
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I was happy to go with Seagate and that's what we've always used at work. I love the fact that it has a 5yr warranty. I do have to say that we recently switched to buying Western Digital brand at work when our Seagate failure rate skyrocketed past 50% of purchased drives. This *cough* seemed to come after their purchase of Maxtor *cough*. To be fair to Seagate, they cannot control how the hard drives are shipped unless you buy straight from them!I have two of these drives setup in RAID 1 configuration and loving it so far. great product. Keep in mind (as others have said) the drive will arrive screwless, wireless and instructionless. If you don't know how to install one, I probably wouldn't practice with your brand new 1 TB drive.
Фотон-8IGWH
14.12.2008
8/10
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Хорошо
I love Seagate. I use only Seagate drives because the only drives I've ever seen fail are Western Digital and IBM/Hitachi. Unfortunately, after using this drive for a week or so, it failed catastrophically, failing Seagate's "Long Generic" diagnostic.) Fortunately, I was still burning in the system and hadn't put any important data on it yet.I used Amazon.com to report the defective unit late Sunday night. Amazon shipped a replacement within hours, and I had it on Tuesday. This new unit has been running fine for a few weeks now and, based on my experience, should continue to for many years.Conclusion: Always test your system for a week or two. Amazon's RMA system is second to none (especially when compared to NewEgg). It's worth a couple extra bucks for such great service.
Синтрон-2OCNU
19.11.2008
10/10
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Big and quiet. Five year warranty.Much faster than my drives from just 3 years ago (though this is true with most new model Seagate, Western Digital, Hitachi, and Samsung drives).I buy most of my computer parts, CDs, DVDs, books, etc online.But I never buy OEM harddrives online. Every site with reviews has customers complaining about drives being DOA or, far worse, going dead two months later. And the reviews mention shoddy packaging.Hard drives are delicate, the retail boxes are specially designed to absorb shock.If you have a 1000 gig hard drive full of data, would you rathera) have it been bought in a specially designed retail box that was delivered to a store as part of a large palette?orb) had it wrapped in bubble wrap, placed in a small individual box, and thrown around in several shipping warehouses before you got it.
Гиперион-7WRZJ
26.01.2009
10/10
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I purchased six of these drives. Five went into a QNAP T509 Pro, which I configured with RAID 6 and now have 2.7TB of usable storage that can survive two disk failures without loss of data. Disk number six went into an eSATA enclosure and provides offline backup of 1 TB of the QNAP for my most critical data.I read numerous reviews of the failure rates people are experiencing with modern high capacity SATA drives. To me, they all appear to have a similar failure rate, so don't be surprised when they die but rather plan for it, just as you expect a light bulb to eventually stop working.
Синтрон-9ALJK
20.12.2008
2/10
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I bought this drive for a new home built HTPC and file server. I loaded WinXP on the computer and the Seagate drive worked really well until today. Now, the computer will not boot beyond the BIOS's drive detect. So, it seems the controller is bad. The drive never was detected when the BIOS was set to AHCI whereas my two Seagate 750 GB drives are detected in AHCI mode. I am going to send it back to Seagate. I am not happy they want $20 to send me a new drive ASAP after only 20 days of use. It's a big job reloading many GBs of backup. They should pay me $20+. Looking at the distribution of reviews it doesn't look like this drive will come close to Seagate's claimed MTBF. Too many early failures!
Туманник-9AJTK
26.05.2009
2/10
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I bought this drive seven months ago and not it won't boot. BIOS doesn't recognize it. I can hear it spinning but nothing else. What a waste!
Небулоид-0ONAR
29.12.2008
10/10
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I ordered these drives to be used with a Drobo and so far, they are working GREAT! I agree with some others, that they are a bit noisy in the Drobo cabinet, but its no big deal for me because everything is located in a Broadcast Data Center for the radio station I operate so noise is no big deal. I am using the drives to backup music files as well as an image of 3 computers on the network, and so far could not be happier. The drives were packaged ok, in that they had plastic ends supporting them in a cardboard box. I am planning on purchasing two more to fill my Drobo (which by the waay I love!) soon!JD from MoreOldies Radio[...]
ИнфраГость-2AHFU
01.05.2009
2/10
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This product failed for me after 5 months of light use in an external enclosure with the extremely common BSY problem. The BIOS won't recognize the hard disk at all.
Кронос-8HVMC
11.02.2009
8/10
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Хорошо
Pros: Fast, lots of roomCons: More bad sectors that I liked, needs to be well cooled when transferring lots of data, noisy head seeks.I'm glad I check the drive for errors before trusting with my data. That way I got the bad sectors out of the way first so my data would be at less of a risk.If you plan on using this drive in a dock, you may need a fan to keep the drive cool.
Астрон-3AARW
13.01.2009
2/10
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Don't buy this hard drive. Seagate is not recognizing a problem with these drives and others that they are manufacturing. Many users, including myself, have had these hard drives fail within 4 months. Specifically, it's the hard drives with firmware version sd15 and from thailand. If you get brave and buy it anyways, then back up your data everytime you move something to it. It's not a matter of if... but when it fails!!! Don't say you weren't warned.
Небулоид-2VBJU
15.03.2009
10/10
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I've had this item for about a year now and it hasn't failed me. I run a diagnostic test about once a month and it has yet to find any disk errors. The speed is very good and the drive is quiet.
Квазар-4RKDO
01.01.2009
2/10
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Stay well away from these drives. They have a major firmware bug that will set the drive to busy, and lock you out. No PC's BIOS will not be able to see the drive. You will lose your data and get a refurbed drive back from Seagate that may well do the same again.There are loads of stories about this all over the web, even on Seagate's own forums, but they deny there is a problem. I had one of these drive die in six weeks with no warning at all.
Вояджер-2TMPV
02.02.2009
10/10
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Bought this as a secondary drive for my games. Before I got this drive I only had a 320GB drive with on about 100GB left on it. Now I've got all my games installed and have a little under 900GB of space left over for whatever else I want to drop on there. Very happy with my purchase. Drive works great with no problems to speak of.
ХроноГость-7WBIL
08.12.2008
10/10
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Received product within a week. Packaged very good! OEM, so no cables. Loaded in my Blackbird 002, formatted and loaded it up. No issues. I have been running this drive for about a month. It runs quiet and effienctly. Purchasing two more to add to my system. Running a Seagate 500 GB for system drive with a 500 for backup. Added the 1 TB to the system to load programs, files.... I will order two more of the 1 TB since I can hot swap up to five drives at a time.Great Product, No Issues!
Вояджер-6PEKJ
16.10.2008
10/10
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I have always been a fan of Seagate products since they've never let me down, and this drive is no exception. I run this drive in an external hard drive enclosure and it has been absolutely perfect. It runs moderately warm, but that is to be expected. My only gripe is that when I leave the enclosure standing up, you can hear the spindle quite clearly. The noise goes away when you leave the enclosure on its side. Like others have said, beware that this is an OEM drive, meaning that when you buy it from Amazon, you only get the drive, no software or cables. You also need to format it on your own (not a problem for me because I always reformat any new hard drive I buy anyway.)
Гелиос-1HQOT
13.12.2008
4/10
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I purchased one drive , and it went bad in less than 2 days. I got the click of death, and the drive just stopped showing up in bios. I got a replacement drive that lasted about 2 weeks before i started getting clicks and delayed write failures. I could read from the drive but in the end i couldn't write data to it. It would just start clicking and then i couldn't do anything. I do allot of video editing so i had about 300GB on it when i lost it.
Спектр-5QQSO
08.02.2009
10/10
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I am building a NAS device Netgear RNDP600E ReadyNAS Pro Poineer Edition Network Attached Storage (Black), so I needed four disks. The disks arrived in two shippments. I installed them, formatted them.. done.. just like it is supposed to work.
Спектроник-7GRBM
21.01.2009
2/10
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The Seagate 1TB Barracuda 7200.11 drive would normally be a good value but with the faulty firmware on these drives that can make them fail within three months, they become very risky bet. Until Seagate fixes the firmware problems, there are better choices for protecting your data.
Аргонавт-2QMQQ
11.02.2009
2/10
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I had this drive fail just outside of Amazon's 30 day return period. Seagate customer service has been non existent, never received a reply to my request for help. Seagate, you got me once, but never again!
Вояджер-0DPFU
07.02.2009
10/10
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Drive arrived well packed and in mint condition. I have had this drive storing and serving up digital media to several workstations continuous for over a month now (running 24/7) and it has performed great! Thanks!
Зета-Орион-7KMTI
27.12.2008
2/10
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Purchased 2 from Amazon, both failed within a few days of using. This may be a bad batch from China because it looks like failures on other posts were manufactured around the same time.One drive gave I/O errors the other just disappeared from the machine. Unfortunately they were both ROOT drives for my machines so I wasted a lot of time trying to recover.
Спектр-2FXKW
22.11.2008
10/10
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Arrived in a box in another box held by typical drive black plastic end holders. OEM so no cable/screws or software. Downloaded Max Blaster 5 from Seagate site to clone original drive. Takes 3 hr to format thru windows XP drive management and 1 and a half hour to copy 200 G from old drive with Max Blaster. Had to change BIOS to see both drives to clone. Moved new drive to boot position. Completely disconnected old drive before first reboot on new drive.
Плазмонавт-6GWJJ
21.10.2008
10/10
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Hello, I replaced the 750 in the HP m8430f due to the bad drivers that I loaded. Since I could only nuke the OS on the 750 I decided to RR the 750 with the 1000. I'm not sure what happened to 82gig on the drive but it is fairly quiet and fast and satisfying. You'll find all the quality your looking for in this drive. I'll update when I find the 82gig that went missing for what ever reason.UPDATE format the drive and get all you payed for. I always fan a hard drive if it needs it or not.Update 11/28 I can hear the HD working so my laptop is more quiet.
Вояджер-5GZKU
21.12.2008
10/10
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I have used these HDs in an external eSATA host appliance connected into my MAC Pro via an eSATA / PCI Express card. Used this way, the HD becomes essentially a removable, high capacity disk. The Seagate has given good speed performance and represents the most cost effective way of obtaining this facility.
Аргонавт-7YOVW
16.02.2009
10/10
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Good item. Great price! Unfortunately I was unable to use it as my computer uses an older IDE connection.
ТехноНаблюдатель-8ZTMV
04.02.2009
10/10
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I purchased and installed two Seagate 1TB drives in my new system and the drives are fast and very low noise level..and the cost was outstanding
Сатурниан-9HHRQ
05.12.2008
2/10
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My drive installed fine on my computer but died afterwards. About 3 weeks after I bought I noticed my computer did not recognize it. I changed the jumper setting but still no luck.Too bad this happend since it looked like a nice product. Will never go back to buying a Seagate drive again.Be carefull when buying these drives.
ИнфраГость-2DOXI
13.01.2009
8/10
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Хорошо
this hd is great except for one thing, in the first week i tried to install the OS several times and it didn't let me, in the second week it installed flawlesly, no problems since.
Сириус-1EMZI
09.01.2009
10/10
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Великолепно
These are great drives (performance and capacity) backed with a greater manufacturer and warranty. Have many of these, some workj 7/24, and perfectly happy with them. I keep coming back.
Дроид-1ZFDE
06.11.2008
2/10
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Just a little over 3 weeks old and it died. Seagate's poor overseas tech support, of no help, they offer to send a `refurbished' drive (a used one) to replace what I purchased NEW. Called Seagate Corporate, no help, selecting numbers to more automated script recorded voices. No option to get to a real person or a operator. Good bye Seagate, poor service, poor drive. Save you money. Run from this company.
Странник-0FPMM
09.12.2008
10/10
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This drive is a real beauty, it was meticulously packed and delivered to me in perfect condition. I find it to be whisper quiet and flawless. Anyone rating this drive poorly is either living in the land of Oz or drinking the Kool Aid. I would highly Recommend this drive to anyone.
ТерраБот-5ZFZD
30.10.2008
8/10
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Хорошо
While I believe this hard drive is an excellent product, the shipping practices are terrible. The drive was loose in the inner box, the fragile circuitry exposed to every bump. The drive did not work as a result, and I sent it back for a refund. I have since bought the same drive from a competitor for more, but it arrived safely, secured in the plastic bookends, and works quietly and quickly in my Mac Pro.
Астероид-6ZHHQ
11.01.2009
10/10
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Just the bare bones. No cables, adapters, screws. However, it works well, and runs quiet in my Popcorn Hour Media Server. Price was right, too!
ИнфраГость-8INJB
16.01.2009
10/10
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High storage capacity, fast data read/write access and very low working operation noise for a lower price!...very good product.
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