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Олег Я.
22.04.2022
8/10
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Хорошо
Хорошая модель
- + Качество
- - Дорого
Тяжёлый. Прослужит долго.
Sergey V.
19.12.2018
4/10
Оценка пользователя
Ужасно
плохая модель
- + Малогабаритный
- - Попался бракованный
Заказывал смеситель GROHE Eurodisc Joy, хром (23430000) через интернет для гигиенического душа в туалет. Из-за ограниченности пространства главным критерием выбора была наименьшая глубина смесителя (размер от стены, на которой крепится смеситель до его крайней фронтальной плоскости или точки). Из всех найденных мною смесителей с рычажным управлением разных производителей, данная модель, оказалась единственной с такой маленькой глубиной (примерно 80 мм ! от стены до крайней точки рычага в закрытом состоянии). Это и определило мой выбор, да к тому же от именитого бренда, какие тут могут быть сомнения. Но... После установки смесителя выявилось следующее. При открытом смесителе и закрытой лейке гигиенического душа обнаружился подмес холодной воды в стояк с горячей водой, на что указали вращающийся счётчик холодной воды (лейка закрыта!) и вращающийся в обратную сторону счётчик горячей воды. Хотя в характеристиках смесителя указано, что он имеет "защиту от обратного потока" Ну, ладно. Вызвал сантехника, который установил на трубы обратные клапаны. Подмес прекратился. Но обратил внимание на то, что после закрывания смесителя и сброса давления в лейке через какое-то время душевой шланг снова наполняется водой и становится упругим под давлением. Снял шланг душа с лейкой и обнаружил, что при полностью перекрытом смесителе из его носика капает вода! Разочарование полное не только в абсолютно новом бракованном смесителе, но и в том, что в нашем совсем не маленьком городе, как оказалось, нет ни одного сервисного центра по ремонту техники Grohe. Да, и ещё из недостатков - долго приходится выставлять рычагом джойстика тёплый поток нужной температуры - то слишком горячая идёт, то слишком холодная... В итоге купил и поставил термостатический смеситель тоже от Grohe. Удобно, просто, комфортно. Работает отлично, нареканий нет.
Анюта Л.
16.04.2022
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Отличная модель
- + Уникальный смеситель, красивый, ручка чуствительная!
- - Сложно отрегулировать воду. По привычке можно принаровиться...
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25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Expensive part but works great
First replacement after 15 years
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
4/10
Оценка пользователя
Ужасно
Yellow vs Green Grohe Quick Coupling
My faucet, which had the Yellow Grohe Quick Coupling, broke about one centimeter below the orange band, which resulted in water spraying all over the inside of my sink when I turned on the faucet. Evidently, this is a design issue with this coupling and it is notorious for failing around the 5 to 7 yrs after installation (from what I read online). The part was very easy to disconnect and I ordered a replacement yellow disconnect immediately. However, in looking on-line I saw other Grohe quick couplings and could not find out any information regarding the difference between the yellow and green Quick Couplings or their specifications except the yellow was for Faucets manufactured before 2005 and the green was for 2005 and later faucets.
So I dug a little deeper and found a parts supply website I asked the following questions regarding the difference between the green and the yellow quick coupling to a Grohe part supplier: Is there a difference between the Grohe Yellow Quick Coupling (#46 138) and the Grohe Green Quick Coupling (#46 315). That is, are they interchangeable? Or is there a difference in the amount of water they allow to flow through them? Or is it only that the green is a newer quick coupling redesigned to fix a design flaw with the yellow coupling (which is notorious for breaking in 5 to 6 years)?
The response I got was the following: "Thank you for your question! The Grohe 46 138 is the older version of the Grohe Green Quick Coupling (46 315). These are interchangeable, so you can use either one. Noting that you are aware of a particular design flaw on the 46 138, I would advise using the 46 315 just to make sure you are getting the newest available part."
I actually bought both parts, and the yellow is slightly longer (which does not affect the functionality of the connector from anything I can detect, but that could be what causes it to be weaker).
So a long story short, I purchased the green quick coupling (which costs a few dollars more) and installed it. It installed easily and I have had no issues with it leaking and all seems to be working fine with it. I cannot say whether it is a better part yet, but I am betting that the shorter design has made is structurally more sound and I am hoping that it will not fail as quickly as the yellow coupling did.
Regardless of the above, given a part like this that is subject to constant movement over the years, I would have expected Grohe to make it out of more lasting material (i.e., metal) that would not break during the faucets normal life span. It is not the cost of the faucet or the replacement part that is the issue but the damage to my cabinet and flooring from the water that built up and seeped through the floor that is the bigger issue. Grohe should be embarrassed by this, as it does not live up to the expected standards for which I believed Grohe was manufactured.
In the future, if I purchase another Grohe faucet, I will look to see what parts are plastic and if they still have this quick coupling made of a material that will not last then I will move on to a better faucet. It is not worth risking the thousands of dollars in dammage that can easily occur from a faucet that pours water into you cabinets.
So I dug a little deeper and found a parts supply website I asked the following questions regarding the difference between the green and the yellow quick coupling to a Grohe part supplier: Is there a difference between the Grohe Yellow Quick Coupling (#46 138) and the Grohe Green Quick Coupling (#46 315). That is, are they interchangeable? Or is there a difference in the amount of water they allow to flow through them? Or is it only that the green is a newer quick coupling redesigned to fix a design flaw with the yellow coupling (which is notorious for breaking in 5 to 6 years)?
The response I got was the following: "Thank you for your question! The Grohe 46 138 is the older version of the Grohe Green Quick Coupling (46 315). These are interchangeable, so you can use either one. Noting that you are aware of a particular design flaw on the 46 138, I would advise using the 46 315 just to make sure you are getting the newest available part."
I actually bought both parts, and the yellow is slightly longer (which does not affect the functionality of the connector from anything I can detect, but that could be what causes it to be weaker).
So a long story short, I purchased the green quick coupling (which costs a few dollars more) and installed it. It installed easily and I have had no issues with it leaking and all seems to be working fine with it. I cannot say whether it is a better part yet, but I am betting that the shorter design has made is structurally more sound and I am hoping that it will not fail as quickly as the yellow coupling did.
Regardless of the above, given a part like this that is subject to constant movement over the years, I would have expected Grohe to make it out of more lasting material (i.e., metal) that would not break during the faucets normal life span. It is not the cost of the faucet or the replacement part that is the issue but the damage to my cabinet and flooring from the water that built up and seeped through the floor that is the bigger issue. Grohe should be embarrassed by this, as it does not live up to the expected standards for which I believed Grohe was manufactured.
In the future, if I purchase another Grohe faucet, I will look to see what parts are plastic and if they still have this quick coupling made of a material that will not last then I will move on to a better faucet. It is not worth risking the thousands of dollars in dammage that can easily occur from a faucet that pours water into you cabinets.
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25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Good Find
Great, easy to replace I’m Happy!
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Saved our new kitchen faucet!
Bought a new Grohe kitchen faucet and the flow was so limited the sprayer would not work and it took waaaaay too long to even fill a pot with water. You couldn't even rinse the sink out the pressure was so weak. Did some research on the flow restrictor for our model and bought this coupling to replace the red coupling that restricts flow to 1.75 gpm (I think - might be 1.5?) Problem solved! The pressure is actually so strong you have to get used not turning it on all the way.
You have to go under the sink to replace it because it is on the end of the hose where it connects to the body of the faucet, not up at the handle end. Once you get under there and find it, it takes about 30 seconds to replace it.
It is kind of irritating that it costs what it costs since it is just a piece of plastic tubing with one threaded end and one push/pull snap connector on the other. But it saved me from years of frustration with a ridiculously low water flow.
You have to go under the sink to replace it because it is on the end of the hose where it connects to the body of the faucet, not up at the handle end. Once you get under there and find it, it takes about 30 seconds to replace it.
It is kind of irritating that it costs what it costs since it is just a piece of plastic tubing with one threaded end and one push/pull snap connector on the other. But it saved me from years of frustration with a ridiculously low water flow.
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Good product
Exactly what I needed.
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
GROHE Lady Lux Cafe’
Works great,
I called GROHE and they said get the Yellow to replace the original red one. GROHE said that they use the Yellow for all now Yellow 46 138.
This actually increased the water flow. I used silicone (non hardening) on the O ring and cleaned the male connector to insure a good seal. Just use a rag on the quick connect to get a good seal. The say on PVC fittings never use over 4 wraps of Teflon tape or it cracks the plastic fitting. I just used silicone non hardening to keep the O ring safe and last longer.
GROHE said not to replace the flex hose. It turned out my hose leaked (a drip) that wet the quick connect.
I ordered a OEM GROHE hose because my old hose lasted from 14 years. Just buy original, you can’t afford a leak.
So if you replace the hose replace the quick connect or visa versus.
If your faucet has low flow it probably isn’t the faucet valve. The check valve in the quick connect gets debris. Just clean the quick connect. I has some plastic debris in mine.
It’s not hard to change the quick connect and hose. Grohe has videos on YouTube.
This vendor on Amazon had quick shipping,
I called GROHE and they said get the Yellow to replace the original red one. GROHE said that they use the Yellow for all now Yellow 46 138.
This actually increased the water flow. I used silicone (non hardening) on the O ring and cleaned the male connector to insure a good seal. Just use a rag on the quick connect to get a good seal. The say on PVC fittings never use over 4 wraps of Teflon tape or it cracks the plastic fitting. I just used silicone non hardening to keep the O ring safe and last longer.
GROHE said not to replace the flex hose. It turned out my hose leaked (a drip) that wet the quick connect.
I ordered a OEM GROHE hose because my old hose lasted from 14 years. Just buy original, you can’t afford a leak.
So if you replace the hose replace the quick connect or visa versus.
If your faucet has low flow it probably isn’t the faucet valve. The check valve in the quick connect gets debris. Just clean the quick connect. I has some plastic debris in mine.
It’s not hard to change the quick connect and hose. Grohe has videos on YouTube.
This vendor on Amazon had quick shipping,
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Perfect fit
Easy to install. Exactly what I needed.
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Works Great. Easy install. Priced ridiculously high!
Real simple tool-free install. Only challenge is getting access to coupling location on faucet after the faucet is installed. The coupling is located behind sink directly below counter top.
The quick coupling part (1.75 liter/min) that comes installed on faucet directly from factory is so restrictive of water flow that we couldn't even get the spray to stay on. Apparently Grohe ships faucets to the U.S. that meet some sort of flow restriction standard. I read one place that the standard is called "California Green", which I can only assumes comes from the droughts CA has been experiencing in recent times.
In any event the Groho 46 138 000 Quick Coupling part has no flow restriction. So now our faucet works perfectly.
Only drawback is the part is priced ridiculously high. $40+ dollars for a small plastic part is absurd. The term that comes to mind is price gouging. Having said that, it works perfectly and completely solved our low water pressure problem.
The quick coupling part (1.75 liter/min) that comes installed on faucet directly from factory is so restrictive of water flow that we couldn't even get the spray to stay on. Apparently Grohe ships faucets to the U.S. that meet some sort of flow restriction standard. I read one place that the standard is called "California Green", which I can only assumes comes from the droughts CA has been experiencing in recent times.
In any event the Groho 46 138 000 Quick Coupling part has no flow restriction. So now our faucet works perfectly.
Only drawback is the part is priced ridiculously high. $40+ dollars for a small plastic part is absurd. The term that comes to mind is price gouging. Having said that, it works perfectly and completely solved our low water pressure problem.
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Easy to install
This worked perfectly. It was easy to install. Works perfectly.
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
4/10
Оценка пользователя
Ужасно
Original connector leaks after replacing hose
I replaced the pull out hose because of leaks at handle. Local plumber said the hose was torn. So far, so good. However, after replacing torn hose, a leak sprung up at the Grohe 46 130 coupling end. There are no clear instructions on how to correctly install the coupling. Should I start by gripping lower part of coupling, then push entire device up so it feels like the yellow upper portion is in a sweet spot, then, while still pushing up the base, pull down on the yellow portion, release, and feel a "snap" into place? That is what I am doing, and I still get a leak, not a big spray. Let's hope new device works. I also bought a red coupling as a back up...any advice?
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25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Worked great
Great Value and easy to install
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
If a 50 year old mom can install this, so can you.
This was a perfect fit and easy (as DIY plumbing goes) to install. There are no instructions that come with the item, but I read the other reviews and googled it to figure out how to install it. Simply put, the black end is a screw in joint. The yellow (or whatever color) end is a pull-down release/lock.
To remove the broken coupling, place a basin of some sort under the sink to catch water. TURN OFF YOUR WATER VALVES UNDER THE SINK. Reach up to the coupling with both hands, hold the coupling with one hand and pull down on the colored portion with the other. This will allow the coupling to be released from metal pipe. Carefully pull the coupling away from the pipe while staying away from natural flow of water. Allow the hose and pipe to drain out into the catch basin. Unscrew the black end from the hose and dry the hose threads. If the teflon tape is eroded, remove the old one and add a new one. Teflon tape is used on many screw in joints and is easily purchased at a hardware store. Screw on the coupling, but do not over-tighten. What does that mean? It needs to be secure enough to not leak, but not so tight that it's as far as you can get it. Hand-tightening is fine. There's no need for a wrench unless you have hand strength problems. Re-attach colored end to the pipe by holding the coupling with one hand, while pulling the colored portion down as you push it onto the metal pipe. Push all the way up and release the colored portion. You should hear/feel it snap in place. Tug down on it to make sure it's secure. Voila! You are done. Remember to turn you water back on. Keep the basin in place until you've tested the installation fully. Watch for leaks. Turn on and off several times, running the water for long and short periods. Any leaks are probably from the black end not being tight enough. If the colored end is not secure, it will pop off while you are running the water.
Last bit of advice, it's worth paying extra for the overnight shipping, since you are saving a ton by not calling a plumber. I first checked to see if I could find the part at a local brick and mortar supplier, but had no luck. I doubt a plumber could get it for you faster unless the company carries it on their own.
To remove the broken coupling, place a basin of some sort under the sink to catch water. TURN OFF YOUR WATER VALVES UNDER THE SINK. Reach up to the coupling with both hands, hold the coupling with one hand and pull down on the colored portion with the other. This will allow the coupling to be released from metal pipe. Carefully pull the coupling away from the pipe while staying away from natural flow of water. Allow the hose and pipe to drain out into the catch basin. Unscrew the black end from the hose and dry the hose threads. If the teflon tape is eroded, remove the old one and add a new one. Teflon tape is used on many screw in joints and is easily purchased at a hardware store. Screw on the coupling, but do not over-tighten. What does that mean? It needs to be secure enough to not leak, but not so tight that it's as far as you can get it. Hand-tightening is fine. There's no need for a wrench unless you have hand strength problems. Re-attach colored end to the pipe by holding the coupling with one hand, while pulling the colored portion down as you push it onto the metal pipe. Push all the way up and release the colored portion. You should hear/feel it snap in place. Tug down on it to make sure it's secure. Voila! You are done. Remember to turn you water back on. Keep the basin in place until you've tested the installation fully. Watch for leaks. Turn on and off several times, running the water for long and short periods. Any leaks are probably from the black end not being tight enough. If the colored end is not secure, it will pop off while you are running the water.
Last bit of advice, it's worth paying extra for the overnight shipping, since you are saving a ton by not calling a plumber. I first checked to see if I could find the part at a local brick and mortar supplier, but had no luck. I doubt a plumber could get it for you faster unless the company carries it on their own.
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25.09.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
Works great!
Perfect replacement for my 10 year old Grohe 33759SD0 faucet. Functions as new and color is a match.
Be sure to replace the o-ring as well (Grohe 01224000) to prevent any leaks.
Be sure to replace the o-ring as well (Grohe 01224000) to prevent any leaks.
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
2/10
Оценка пользователя
Ужасно
Cheaply made "replacement"
Beware, Grohe has made this replacement considerably more flimsy than the original. See my pics. I was going to go ahead and replace the coupling since my hose failed; however, this is going back and I'm sticking with the original since it's considerably more beefy.
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Great replacement spray
Just like the original. Great seller
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
Solved my Alira water flow issues.
I’ve been experiencing water pressure and flow issues with my Alira faucet. First I replaced the cartridge. That didn’t fix the issue. Next I flushed the water lines. That didn’t fix it. Finally I replaced the yellow quick coupling. That did the trick. I have strong water pressure again. Super easy to install. Glad I was able to find this part on Amazon.
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25.09.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
So easy.
It took the time to unscrew the old one and put on the new. FANTASTIC
Скроменый эксперт
25.09.2020
8/10
Оценка пользователя
Хорошо
Get's the Job Done but Not as Robust as the Original
First and foremost, this gets the job done and worked as a replacement for my original that developed a crack and leaked everywhere. I will 100% agree with the other reviewer who posted a photo comparing this version to the original and that the new one is much smaller, made with thinner plastic, and overall less robust than the original. Will have to see if this stands the test of time, but does seem to work without issue so far. The price is ludicrous for a couple of pieces of plastic, but I was unable to find anything else that would fit properly.
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25.09.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
Easy to install
It works!
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25.09.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
YES!! sink fixed in one day...next time, same day!
I have prime and the two day shipping is just awesome. My sink started leaking on Saturday while I was canning. What a pain. I called two plumbers who quoted amazingly high weekend prices and long shipping times for parts (am I in the wrong profession?). I thought long and hard and while on Amazon, searched for my Grohe faucet model and found that Amazon sells this part. I ordered this and a new sprayer... which was clogged with hard water deposits. Ended up installing them both myself for under $125 in approximately 30 minutes. WOW. That was less than half of the lowest plumbing quote I received - and their quotes did not include parts. You could probably install them faster if you knew what you were doing!
The yellow end connects and disconnects with a quick couple mechanism. That is where my leak was. You push the yellow sleeve down (don't try to unscrew it like I did) and the whole hose comes off the faucet end...there is just a bubble-expansion on the end of the faucet that this connects to. The other end unscrews and the hose disconnects so you can put on the new coupling.
I now have a spare coupling and a spare sprayer underneath my sink so when this happens again, I'm ready and can fix the problem immediately.
Fast shipping - item arrived in one day for $3.99. THANKS Amazon for saving me a bundle.
The yellow end connects and disconnects with a quick couple mechanism. That is where my leak was. You push the yellow sleeve down (don't try to unscrew it like I did) and the whole hose comes off the faucet end...there is just a bubble-expansion on the end of the faucet that this connects to. The other end unscrews and the hose disconnects so you can put on the new coupling.
I now have a spare coupling and a spare sprayer underneath my sink so when this happens again, I'm ready and can fix the problem immediately.
Fast shipping - item arrived in one day for $3.99. THANKS Amazon for saving me a bundle.
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25.09.2020
10/10
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Chrome finish replacement sprayer works great
Great replacement sprayer, matches perfectly and works great. Very easy to install in less than 2 minutes.
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