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Unfortunately there are some problems with using this receiver with zone 2 and some of the extended features.
Zone 2 – appears to have documented bugs. I was hoping to use this receiver to bring audio to our kitchen so I could listen to music or news while preparing meals. If I set the second room source to the same input as the main source, no signal went to the second source. The note in the manual says the following: “If you select a same input source for MAIN ZONE and ZONE2, audio playback may be restricted.” I did find a work around (toggle second source to another source and then back again), but this feels more like a bug that Denon decided not to fix. Having the main and zone 2 sources be the same seems like a common configuration that should be supported properly. Note also that the main source always reverts to 2 channel stereo when zone 2 is set to the same source.
If you use HDMI for zone 2 to connect to a second TV or monitor, note that Denon does not provide for any conversion of non HDMI audio sources, so if you have a DVD player or set top box where the audio is connected via TOSLINK or analog, you won’t get any sound in the zone 2. I found this to be a rather surprising and severe limitation for zone 2, which essentially makes it unusable for me.
USB – I tried to view JPEG pictures on a USB card I plugged in to the front panel. Unfortunately, unless they have a 16:9 aspect ratio, they end up distorted. I regard this as a bug. Also, Denon only recognizes FAT formating, and will not work with an exFAT device. My audio files with album art also did not play – I found this note in the appendix “If the image size (pixels) of an album artwork exceeds 500 × 500 (WMA/MP3/WAV/FLAC) or 349 × 349 (MPEG-4 AAC), then music may not be played back properly.”
No switched power outlet –Apparently Denon expects everyone to have a newer subwoofer that automatically powers down when no signal is received. This may be a minor issue, as I’ve noticed that my sub woofer uses only 11 watts when not playing music. Still, it would be nice to have a switched power outlet.
No easy way to re-label the remote if you rename inputs. If you are using all 6 HDMI inputs, it seems unlikely that the default names will make sense for all inputs. Fortunately you can rename any of the inputs, but there is no overlay for the remote, so you are stuck trying to come up with a way to remember that “GAME” is really APPLE TV and AUX is your PC.
1. While watching a movie the picture was jittery... very noticable during slow moving parts of the movie. Like frames in the picture were being skipped. After watching the entire movie that way (very frustrating) I powered off the unit (standby) and powered back on - the picture returned to normal. Not sure why I didn't try that before watching the whole movie. And it wasn't just the movie... switched to regular TV to test and was doing the same. I installed new HDMI cables and thought perhaps it was those, but it had to be something in the receiver.
2. The internet radio is awesome... when it works. For some reason mine was stuck on Spotify and while I could change the sound to another station, the display on the receiver showed Spotify and the last song I was playing. The display on the TV was also fuzzy during this time. A complete power down (unplug from outlet) seemed to do the trick to reset whatever was wrong here.
So far those are the only issues I've had with the receiver. Love the sound and the iPad control. I have a Sonos bridge near the receiver which doubles as a Sonos extender and as a connection via ethernet to the receiver in order to have internet capabilities. The Sonos bridge is wirelessly connecting to my router and it works great as a wireless extender. Yep... that's right for those that have Sonos - it works!
I will update to more stars if items 1 and 2 above do not happen in the near future.
11/16/2014 update: Moved to 4 stars (from 3). Have not had the jittery movie experience since that one time. Will update again after giving the network function some additional time to correct some issues...
1/14/2015 update: Still having network issues. I do not have this plugged directly into my switch/router but am using the Sonos device to make that connection. I've changed the Sonos device to a Sonos Connect and run my Sonos app through my home theater - excellent setup. So... I hardly even use the network funtionality any more except to control the device through my iPad - volume mostly. I guess it's not a huge deal, but the app has difficulty finding the Denon at times and then I need to unplug the Denon from power and reconnect - then it works for a week or so. I called Denon and in order for them to assist more, I need to plug the network connection directly into my router - which obviously complicates things since my router is nowhere near my receiver. Ahh... the challenge of not getting a bult-in wifi unit. Lowering back to 3 stars since this functionality is a flaw/defect of the unit, since my Sonos remains connected at all times with no trouble connecting to my wifi network. In fact, my Sonos Connect also provides network connectivity to my TV - absolutly no issues with the TV network connecting using this method... only with Denon.
Both receivers were very lightly used for Home AV use, in open racks where copious cooling was available.
I have had great luck with Yamaha AV Receivers in the past 15 years.
Moral of this story: I would NEVER buy anything with the DENON brand...period! They may have been the schnizit 5-10 years ago, but their build quality is so poor, do yourself a favor and go for Yamaha, Onkyo or another reputable brand. Denon does not deserve your business! If you go ahead with purchasing Denon, at least add the additional warranty: in all likelihood, you will need it!
The Denon AVR-X3000 In-command 7.2-Channel 4K Ultra HD Networking Home Theater Receiver with AirPlay, made in China, comes with a remote, two AAA batteries, the power cord, an Audyssey setup/measurement microphone, an AM loop antenna, cable labels, safety instructions, getting started guide, and the owners manual on CD-ROM. The receiver weighs 23.58 pounds, and is 17.1 inch wide by 14.92 inches deep by 6.6 inches high.
Setup requires additional items which are purchased separately, including a TV, HDMI and speaker cables, and speakers. Then setup includes putting the batteries in the remote, connecting the TV to the receiver, powering everything on, and following the onscreen setup assistant which includes standard settings plus placement and calibration of the speakers. Calibration for us required eight sound tests since we have a seven speaker system. This step calibrated the sound system for the best audio experience.
The Denon remote iDevice app requires wireless network activation to use. The app can be opened anywhere, but will only work on the receiver while connected to the proper wireless network. The remote app will work on multiple devices, requiring one to initially choose which device to interact with.
While the Denon AVR-X3000 Home Theater Receiver is higher end, it has fewer audio options to choose from. We noticed this right away and missed the THX audio options on the Onkyo the entire time the Denon was hooked up. However, the Denon receiver's sound quality is excellent when properly calibrated.
Denon AVR-X3000 Home Theater Receiver's Wi-Fi connectivity and a well designed iPhone remote app is a huge improvement over the Onkyo remote app. From my iPhone, I could turn the system on/off, select zones, and accomplish every task I attempted. I can easily see how a second zone on the patio or a different room would be simple to control. The Onkyo remote app tries to be as good, but fails to even compare in simplicity and effectiveness.
Otherwise features are mostly comparable. Both 7.1-channel network A/V receivers has 2 zones, a remote app, HD capabilities, Audyssey Equalizer and calibration, internet radio and network streaming, supports 3D, Dolby Pro Logic IIz, HDMI video upscaling to 4k, graphical onscreen display, and more similar features.
If you're looking for a complete home theater audio system, the Onkyo HT-S9400THX 7.1-channel network A/V receiver and speaker package will get you set up in no time. However, if you're looking for a high end receiver with multi zone capacity which works effortlessly, the Denon AVR-X3000 In-command 7.2-Channel 4K Ultra HD Networking Home Theater Receiver may cost more, but is the better option.
PROS:
Simple and effective companion iPhone App
Apple Airplay
7 HDMI inputs and 2 HDMI outputs
Three year limited warranty
CONS:
Limited audio options
Pros:
- The front panel is very clean looking, not a lot of buttons and knobs. This makes it pretty easy to manually select your input device (e.g. Cable box, DVD, Game etc.).
- The remote control is similarly clean looking and easy to navigate. Batteries for this are included in the box.
- Label stickers are included so you can label your input wires and cables. Since I was replacing a lower end receiver this came in very handy.
- Rear ports are clearly labeled and easy to use. The speaker wire connectors use screw on caps to fasten the wires. Pretty easy to use and ensure a good connection.
- Output sound is terrific. The 5.1 speakers are loud and clear (I have a Center, 2 Fronts, 2 Surrounds, and an Active Subwoofer). Plenty of power to drive them. Setup was pretty good. You attach an included microphone to the front of the receiver and walk through the on-screen setup process. The process is not error free. As stated I have a 5.1 system. I wanted to connect my back speakers to the Rear Surround connectors on the back and ID them that way in the setup but it wouldn't let me. I had to connect and ID them as Surround. The only way it would let me connect and ID them as Rear Surround is if I had a 7.1 system. Also, one of my speakers was identified as Out of Phase (red and black wires reversed on speaker). It wasn't but I couldn't get around this. The setup program allowed me to Ignore this error and it stated that this error is sometimes reported erroneously.
- My first movie tried was "Snitch", a blu-ray rental from Netflix. I had the receiver set to auto-detect the disc sound setup and it incorrectly set it to stereo even though it was DTS 5.1 capable. I went back into the setup and changed the input audio for the PS3 from Auto to 5.1 and tried it out with the Bourne Ultimatum and everything worked fine after that.
- My old system required me to switch between HDMI 5 for the satellite box and HDMI 6 for the PS3 but the Denon allows me to stay on one input for the TV.
Cons:
- Network access requires a hard wire connection. I'm surprised that I can't connect it wirelessly and I don't have a network port in that room of my house.
- The unit is an energy vampire and goes into standby mode when not in use. There appears to be no way to power it down completely without unplugging it, which would likely cause it to lose it's setup configuration data.
- The setup menu is somewhat confusing to a novice or intermediate user (like me). There's some terminology in there I had to look up to understand.
- The User Manual comes on a CD in PDF format. The PDF is 235 pages so I get that but for what they're charging for this unit they should have included a hard copy manual.
Overall this is a superb unit and has a lot of versatility. It has USB connectivity (FAT16 or FAT32 format only). You can connect an iPod (but only with a USB connector). You can connect to SiriusXM, Pandora, and Spotify. There's a lot of functionality available that I don't normally use so I didn't test but the manual covers it all in detail.
Super glad!!!
The DENON AVR X3000 is great!
The setup is easy and the sound is amazing. Add in the Audyssey Gold for Dynamic EQ and it's even better.
I am a long time - old :-) - audiophile on a budget. The Amazon price on this saved me hundreds of dollars for a 'discontinued' product.
What a sweet deal!!!
Buy this AVR while you can; you can't get better sound for your dollar.
Enough said :-)
I used to be a passionate Denon fan and this plastic feeling unit replaced a Denon that I had no trouble with for years. I will not be buying Denon again.
After 2 months with this unit, the center channel began to degrade. It is now barely audible over the surround speakers.
DO NOT BUY THIS UNIT.
The received through the set up phase was able to identify all of the other components without a problem and connected to the internet without any problem.
There does seem to be a learning curve on understanding the full potential of the remote control unit and the owners manual is slim on understanding how to control all connected components through the remote.
The Android app that can be downloaded from Play Store works as advertised, however it would be nice to see more functionality available on the app, as it is clearly the easiest way to access the receiver and choose the systems that you want to operate.
The sound is fantastic and Denon delivers again in this mid-range receiver. Even at low volumes the level of separation and clarity of all audio is distinct and crisp.
After hearing/seeing what friends had gone through in years past to get their systems installed and tweaked, I had doubts about getting it installed and configured by myself. Needless to say, those doubts were without warrant: the included Audyssey setup mic and accompanying on-screen utility made it almost trivially simple (at least in my case) to get amazing sound out of this receiver.
The only thing I regret is waiting so long to enjoy 5.1 sound. On the bright side, it means I get to watch all my favorite movies for the first time again.
i am hooked up to some decent B&W book shelf speakers via some good audioquest interconnects and i cant complain at all.
set up was pretty straight forward and the "airplay" option is great. i dont ever see the need for a cd player for music. the front usb jack is also convenient. i have had the amp up to 75%power with zero distortion noted
the remote is a bit confusing as you have to hold the colored buttons down for 3 secs to get to the different listening modes.
overall, as always, wait and get "last years" model, save money and enjoy!!!!
I've got an iphone and use itunes on a windows PC. as long as the amp is connected to your home network, on an iphone you go to the home screen and slide your finger up the screen. You'll see an option for air play which if selected you'll see the name Denon appear. Whatever you play on the iphone plays through the amp. On itunes you see a blue icon appear near the volume bar. Simply select it and then select the denon option.
You can also stream direct from windows media player although it takes a bit more clicking around to get it working.
The amp doesn't have wireless network connectivity. The best option if you cant plug straight in to a LAN is to get a device that transmits network connectivity over the power cables. There are plenty of companies doing these. Search for "LAN over power"
The audio quality is the best I've heard on any system. I've got Mordaunt Short speakers. I was dubious about how the quality would be when streaming from something like an iphone but I can't fault it.
A tip though. Out of the box it sounds OK but needs a lot of setting up. It comes with a small microphone. You put the amp in to setup mode and place this microphone in various positions in the room while the amp generates test tones. It sets the amp up for you and dramatically improves the performance.
Another tip. when setting the amp up, plug it in to your TV so you can see the menu. You get much more detail than the text on the front of the amp.





