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I do believe these headphones have incredible noise cancelling technology. They manage to make virtually every low-pitched sound (train engines, washing machines, etc.) non-existent and seriously reduce the sound of high-pitched sounds like talking, loud typing, clapping, etc. I'm a bit familiar with what's behind ANC and I can see both the internal and external microphones on the unit. Having ANC tech that adapts to both is what adds to a lot of the cost in high-end ANC headphones. These are certainly state of the art in that respect.
I expected the audio quality to be more amazing. It really is no better than the iPhone's included headphones or even the very cheap (but highly rated) Panasonic earbuds. However, adding ANC to playing sound is a tradeoff. Other, cheaper ANC headphones are far worse and wind up fighting with the music instead of letting you enjoy it. It could be that Sony is simply balancing ANC with sound quality and it can't get better than it is.
30 hours of battery life is awesome. It's literally 10 times more than AirPods. The low battery life of Apple's devices is why I avoided them.
Negatives:
These headphones are big and clumsy. As light and padded they are, they are still large, uncomfortable to wear for more than an hour, and take up a lot of space in a backpack. This isn't really Sony's fault; all over-ear headphones are going to take up X amount of volume because of the size and location of human ears. But due their size and weight, I am finding myself more and more often just using my cheap wired earbuds, even when the Sonys are sitting right there on my desk and ready to go. Do I choose ANC and excellent sound, but pain and discomfort? Or good enough sound, no ANC, wires that don't let me walk around, but no pain? I think you can understand the dilemma.
The gesture-based controls are nearly useless. I have heard from others that they don't work outdoors on very cold days, but that's not my issue. I only used the headphones in a climate controlled house. The touch controls are simply cumbersome to use. Either they will not trigger when I want them to, so I have to try it several times before they work. They also trigger when I don't want them to, such as when I pull up the top of my hoodie, move them aside to redistribute the pressure pain caused by the pads, or raise my arms to stretch. I would really prefer physical buttons, or even a way to turn off the sensor.
The headphones cannot be used while charging. They cannot be turned on while plugged in, and if turned on when plugging in the power cable, they immediately turn off. This is surprising behavior considering that Sony located the power port on the right side facing down, where it is most conveniently hanging while plugged in and being worn. After all, if you were on an airplane and just wanted silence, but were running low on battery, wouldn't you want to plug it in so that you continue to have silence for the duration of your trip? My iPhone and Macbook pro continue to operate while plugged in and charging, as does another pair of noise-cancelling (corded) earbuds I use. I can't think of any charging device that does not do this, so I don't understand how this could have been missed.
Another annoyance is that when paired with a MacOS laptop, every time they activate after turning on, MacOS will automatically launch the Music app and begin playing the first song. By "activate," this could mean moving aside the left headphone to speak with someone, then putting it right back on. The Mac will start playing music even when something else is playing sound, such as VLC playing a movie. There seems to be no reliable way to turn this off and it's incredibly annoying.
After nearly 20 years of Bluetooth technology development, I really expected something simple like headphones to be a smoother experience. Remember when you could just plug in the headphones to your phone when you take a call? Pairing these Sonys is a huge time-consuming headache. Just switching between my Mac and iPhone is a chore. It takes a long time to re-pair the headphones to a different device, even if you were hooked up to them earlier. If a call comes in, I need a good 30 seconds or longer before it the sound is established. I have missed calls because of this. To the caller, it sounds like I don't know how to use a phone. Yes, the headphones do work with a phone, and the other side hears me well. But due to this pairing delay, I just use the corded earbuds and not the Sonys.
To paraphrase Chase Jarvis, your best headphones are the ones you have with you... and start working as soon as you put them on, let you answer calls right away, don't interfere with your listening enjoyment, don't cause your head to hurt, etc. By that measure, $10 cabled earbuds are my best headphones, and these Sony headphones are down at the bottom of the list. Low tech easily wins over a kitchen sink of advanced features.
I am a product of the western education; as a result, I am a nihilist. As such, life has very little to offer other than sex, food and displaying superiority over my fellow men with the hope of getting more of the former two.
Last week, as I was feeling especially oppressed by the thoughts of existentialist angst, I felt a sudden urge of something missing in my life, perhaps goaded by the Prime Day Sale on Amazon. So I decided to buy a newer (nay, the newest) version of the headphones, compounding my earlier folly.
I, like many before me, made the assumption that if something is newer it ought to be better. I have found that this headphone shows no distinct superiority over it's predecessors excepting being shinier and more expensive. In fact, my older version of the headphone is better in terms of built quality and response time.
If you are a like me: That is, a fool who hasn't got $300 to waste but in possession of the earlier version of these headphones. I urge you not buy this since it is in no way better than the earlier headphones.
Goodbye dear public.
“You! Hypocrite lecteur! – mon semblable, -mon frère!”
I use my headphones to listen to lps (at the moment) with a good audio source (Technics 1210GR/Blue Point2). I've listened to many different music types, and I like the fact that the sound is balanced and warm. If I listened to more rock I might want a stronger bass presentation, but I tend towards jazz and classical and I prefer accuracy and balance.
I'm using a low end Sony stereo receiver and the sound over paired Bluetooth connections is not as dynamic and strong as a direct plug connection. In my office I run a fan, and this set takes the fan out of the background. Just great. Reviews suggest the Bose high end is equally good for noise cancellation.
This is an enclosed over the ears headset. The pads fit snugly, but not tight. I wear my MX4 for hours a day listening to music and I never feel uncomfortable. I have an average sized head. Thankfully the folding headset of earlier Sony set is not in this model.
Bluetooth pairing is to two devices, and you can switch using a phone app from one to the other. Switching is a little funky, but not bad. If you are pairing to a single device such as an iPhone, then this is trouble free. The app lets you modify the sound profile of the headset.
This model comes with a dynamic sound format using music services that I have not sampled.
The MX4 has excellent battery life and would be a good headset to travel with. It's got features that are particularly useful when paired to a phone. Touch the earpiece to talk through, remove touch and sound resumes. Swipes up/down/left right for vol and track control. The sound of my phone calls (10XMax) is excellent.
The MX4 is a near audiophile headset with many features for phone users. Based on sound quality, quietness, build quality, and features this headset cannot be beat in its price point. It is a great piece of kit.
Nothing works without the app. If you want to make the volume go up, you have to find the app, find the place where the volume is and adjust it. Then, when you want to play something else, you have to close or hide the app, and then select something else to play. But if you don't like the volume setting for the new piece, you have to find and turn on the Sony app again. I found that I needed to hold my phone in my hand all the time.
Then there is the problem of the frequent beeping while listening to a work. I keep on thinking there is someone trying to reach me, but it is just the Sony app interrupting the sound every few seconds with a beep. How annoying!
There is an instruction page the size of a newspaper without words. You know the kind, full of pictures, but no words. It is trying to convey how to use the headphones. The problem is that the headphones haven't read the instructions. Maybe the instructions are only for apple devices. My headphones don't know how they are supposed to operate, such as fast forward. They can pause the playback with a double tap on the right earpiece. However, a subsequent double tap on the earpiece doesn't get the playback to resume.
I am using an android phone and VLC for playback. If your experience is different, it may be our setups are different.
Fast forward to today, and I've just spent $350 on a new pair of Sony wireless noise canceling headphones. With five more years of R&D under Sony's belt, a much higher price tag than I paid for my MDR10's (they were about $140) and great reviews around the net, I had high expectations. For this kind of money, I expected not just a set of cans I could use on a plane but some everyday hi-fi headphones for music too. Unfortunately, they just don't sound very good, even with noise canceling off. I've tried them wired, wireless, on and off (you can use them turned off when wired), with noise canceling on and off, and using both AAC and LDAC codecs. The problem seems to be the headphone drivers, which is fundamental to the hardware.
I probably should have known better. These are mass market headphones, and even at fairly high prices like this, people today don't seem to be looking for accurate sound reproduction; they're looking for a lot of bass. These have that; I wish I'd seen this before buying but headphones.com (no affiliation!) tested their frequency response and found a "v-shaped" curve that emphasizes bass and to a certain extent treble. Unfortunately, the mid-range is where most of the music is, so really good-sounding mid-range and flat frequency response is the sign of a good headphone. These do have a cell phone app where you can set a custom EQ, and I did that. Unfortunately, the mid-range reproduction in these headphones just isn't very good - it sounds tinny and harsh, so the flatter you make the frequency response, the worse it sounds. These just aren't very good headphones in terms of sound quality, and I expected a lot better for $350.
In fact, I also own a pair of Cowin E7 Pro's, which are $60 Chinese wireless ANC headphones, and they sound almost as good as these. I had bought those literally the day before a flight because I found out I wasn't going to be able to plug in my headphones to an IFE system, and they were cheap enough to be an impulse buy. But they're totally fine for that price; they don't sound great but they're not absolutely awful either, they also have a ton of bass and their noise cancellation is adequate. For almost six times the price, I would expect these Sonys to sound a lot better, and they just don't. I was trying to upgrade and I'm not sure I really have.
As for the active noise canceling itself, yes, it's pretty good. My MDR10's noise canceling was pretty good too, five years ago. So are the Cowin's. Maybe I'm just more picky in terms of sound quality than noise canceling, but I feel like every ANC headphone cancels noise pretty well, though not perfectly - these are still tuned mostly for jet engines, and you're still going to hear stuff in higher registers. The WH-1000XM4's do have a slight hiss in ANC mode that means you probably won't want to use ANC at home. I noticed this right away and tested my other headphones to see if they did the same thing, since I hadn't noticed it before. And they do, but the frequency of the hiss on the 1000XM4's is a bit higher. It's not louder, just higher, so that's probably why I immediately noticed it.
Lastly, I am not a fan of the build quality of these, especially compared to my MDR10's - which, again, are also Sony ANC headphones and were much cheaper. The MDR10's look and feel premium, even today. The 1000XM4's look and feel like cheap headphones. They're all black plastic and just don't have the premium look or feel that I'd expect from a $350 set of headphones. They also seem to have a higher clamping force that makes them a little uncomfortable after an hour or two of listening. It's not noticeable at first but becomes noticeable pretty quickly.
If these cost $150, I'd say they were worth it. I do not think they are for $350.
I am seriously considering returning mine.
Less good is the general feature set. The touch controls are a disaster, and the auto-on/off feature when you take the headphones on and off is a complete pain. I wish there was an option in the app when you first connect to enable or disable this feature set. This makes these headphones totally useless for day-to-day usage in the time of Covid. Sometimes I need to take one ear off to hear the environment around me, which may or may not cause music to start playing in the middle of a meeting. The auto-off feature is great for battery saving when you're on vacation, but in a work environment; it means that the headphones frequently don't re-connect quickly when jumping on a meeting, which is embarrassing. These headphones are okay for a few hours of usage, but after 4-5 hours, they start to get uncomfortable, which, given I'm on work calls all day means they aren't good for work usage again.
The online reviews that laud these headphones aren't wrong - the sound quality and noise cancellation is excellent; but those paper cut features that just annoy you are the death of these headphones, and so for that reason, at this price point, they get just 2 stars and I find myself going back to my older Bose headphones 90% of the time, to a point that I may just buy a new pair of Bose to replace the Sonys.
The active noise cancelling on these are good, but they cannot deal with wind noise despite having a setting for it; you will hear buffeting and grating sounds created by these in windy scenarios. They aren't the best for bumpy vehicles as there are "pressure waves" as best as I can describe that actually hurt my ears and I have to turn the noise cancellation function down, even after "optimization." The MPOW doesn't offer the same level of cancellation but also doesn't have these issues.
The call quality is crap, frankly. Any sort of background noise will be transmitted as clearly as your voice. Like the road or engine noise of a car, for instance. Or wind. Honestly, the MPOW isn't far behind this in call quality, it cancels out more noises but sounds more muffled in the process.
They haven't been able to pair with either of my Windows 10 PCs, but pair perfectly fine with my phone. To be fair the MPOW struggles here too, but at least they show up in the bluetooth list.
There is an audible hissing noise when using the included audio cord and no audio playing on the device which doesn't seem to be irritating at first but after an hour or so it becomes quite distracting to the point where I'd rather not wear them. Like constant radio static playing in the room next to you.
It comes with the smallest USB-C charging cable I've ever seen and for the price range that's pretty unacceptable, the MPOW's came with a cable twice as long.
The audio quality is decent but it isn't WORLDS better than the MPOW Deep Bass ANC headset, it's clearer and crisper but seem to perform similarly when ANC is active.
Build quality isn't much better than the cheapo MPOWs either, to my surprise.
Honestly, these are a rip off. They're maybe 10-15% better than the cheaper alternatives for 10x the price.
So far these work great! I'm still concerned about the durability, but I'll also only be using these guys for walks and runs around the city for the foreseeable future. Hopefully, that mitigates the risk of damage.
Sound quality is still great, I'd like to do a side by side test to gauge the difference of the DSEE modes, but I've left it on without an issue. The noise cancellation is terrific, and finally, voice calls are functional (I'm pretty sure it denoises the other caller as well, which means their phone's denoising is mixed in with Sony's. The result is usable, but not crisp and full-bodied sound like I'd like. But they're voice calls so I'll take what I can get.
I'll always recommend these to folks, though not necessarily over the Bose alternatives since I haven't heard those myself.
These are terrific all-around, and for someone who wants to chat handless on a call, this finally pushes the 1000XM series into a must-have.
I was told that these would be leading technology headphones but honestly the sound quality was the same as my brothers beats -.-
I wanna use them to study but they keep slipping off my head when I look down at my book. my head isn't small and my brothers had the same issue when they tested them.
the set-up was confusing and you have to pay for the 360 feature which is dumb on so many levels especially because we paid 360$.
now let me get into the noise cancellation.... my brothers beats which were on sale for 88 dollars gave these 350$ headphones a run for its money. the Sony headphones noise cancellation was only slightly better and it makes me feel sick!!!! like actually it gives me a headache idk why but it's not worth the price at all!!!!
i'm convinced that sony wants to kill their costumers because why in the world would they give us such a small charger like .... why it makes no sense!!!
if your a student like me just trying to drown out the noise of you family then definitely don't buy these !!!
I will most likely be returning these unless I magically change my mind in the next few days.
(also it collects so many fingerprints)
little update the touch stuff doesn't work like at all it doesn't raise the volume or skip the music might just be mine but it's worth mentioning.
As a treat to myself, I purchased the Sony WH-1000XM4. The sound is real good whether music, tv or movies. I have not tried a phone call yet. I have it connected to my phone and my TV. This worked great between the two when I got it setup.
A feature that is a concern is the sound pause feature/sensor when someone is talking to you. It responds awesomely by pausing and changing the ambient sound. However, if you hum or sing with a song, the headset pause the music/sound due to your own voice. Annoying!!! If you turn the feature off, you can hum/sing the songs. However, when someone tries to communicate with you, you will not hear them. When you get eye contact, you have to take the headset off because the noise canceling feature is working awesomely... it tunes out the outside sounds. The other option is to not hum or sing. It may have something to adjust that I have not mastered yet. It's not a game stopper though. Just a learning curb.
The touch censor is something you have to get used to. It works pretty well once you get used to pausing, fwd/rev a song, and vol control.
Another concern I have is the cushion; it does not breathe too well. I had to do a little yard work and began to perspire. I had to lay the headset out to dry when I was done because the cushions were damp/wet.
Overall, this is a pretty good headset. The features, you have to learn and adjust accordingly (something I am still working on doing). There are a couple of flaws (my opinion) I mentioned... ear cushions getting wet and the overly sensitive reaction when you are humming or singing. I would give these a 8 out of 10. Nothing is perfect but I am sure the next gen will have more improvements.
The headphones come with a free year of a hifi audio app- you can choose one of three- and I chose Tidal. So first thing I figured out is that Tidal is completely unusable, tried it on a samsung galaxy s9 and a macbook, and whenever you try to play a song it says "couldn't start subscription, please try again" AND CRASHES EVERY TIME. I've cleared the cache and looked at all their troubleshooting. Haven't received any response from customer service yet. What's more, once you choose your hifi app it doesn't let you go back and choose a different one, and it's not a year at all, it's 90 days.
The one thing it does well is the noise cancelling, but that's the only high quality part about these normally $350 headphones.
In over a decade using Amazon I have never been more angry than I am now, I feel like I've been mugged.
I expected heat to be an issue to some extent with over the ear headphones but these seem to retain heat more than other brands I’ve tried on I have been unable to comfortably wear these for more than 5-10 minutes before my ears become uncomfortably warm. Other than that their comfort is outstanding. I don’t feel uncomfortable pressure on my ears or head surrounding my ears which some noice cancelling headphones do to create a better seal. Perhaps that is why I notice more ambient noice. As much as I was looking forward to owning these headphones based upon reviews of their predecessor as well as these by reviewers who received the new model in advance I don’t think they are going to work for me solely because they don’t seem to be well ventilated if that is possible with noise canceling headphones.
Update: 8/31/20 three main issues so far, the battery life seems worse when using the feature to connect to two devices simultaneously and the headphones only connect fully about 50% of the time and I have to go to Bluetooth settings to get them to connect. Also, wear sensor doesn’t always work and when putting paused headphones around my neck it often starts playing again. One more thing: the padding on the ear cups is slimmer and more plush so I feel the actual cups against the side of my face making them slightly less comfortable but not so much that it’s a deal breaker. I do like that you can put two fingers to the touch pad and hold to toggle the speak-to-chat feature on and off which is handier than going into the app to turn it off/on. Also I like that there is a power button in the app to quickly turn off the headphones and that they will auto shut off when taken off after a certain amount of time (although I have no idea how long that is as there is no way to change it in the app).
- Comfort (though for bigger ears it may be a little less so).
- Build quality is good for a headphone in this price bracket, given the tech.
- Noise cancelling is honestly unbelievable, though please note these are my very first pair of NC headphones.
- Decent sound for what it is, with good battery life to boot.
- Cool intelligent tech, though admittedly I do not use it at all (I keep NC on at all times and do not utilize the speech recognition feature).
- Mobility.
- Truly some great tech thrown in here, and I can see the R&D going to work, also fairly useful app.
Cons:
- Price.
- Sound quality is lacking when compared to setups at this price point (though I hear it is the best sound quality when comparing to other NC cans), however more on this below.
- Ears can become warm after a while.
- This may be just me, but I have issues with ear pressure changes throughout the day and can cause a feeling of needing to - and not being able to - "pop" my ears, which is annoying and causes long-term comfort to be an issue for long sessions, forcing me to switch back to my faithful 599's.
To elaborate, I have HiFiman x Drop HE4XX'S, with a Schitt Modi/Magni stack DAC/AMP. This entire package cost me the same exact price as the MX4's from Sony, and the sound quality is essentially night and day difference. Sound stage, separation, and dynamic sound range is definitely noticeably worse on the MX4's, and there is significant bleed through the bass and mids in some songs. For reference I am listening on Tidal, with Master track quality. Even on my HE4XX's, the bass is tighter and more responsive, and, while not a bass-havy pair of cans, provides a much more accurate and tight listening experience across all ranges. This is partially due to the open back versus closed back design, but again for the price, if you do not care about being so mobile, or perhaps work from home or are a student doing much of your work and homework from a home office or fixed location like myself, I would suggest looking elsewhere. If you travel all the time and absolutely cannot live without maximum portability and noise cancelling, then the MX4's are the way to go. The sound quality is adequate (though I still grit my teeth when considering how much these cost compared to my true audiophile headphone set ups given the sound quality), especially when compared to other closed-back designs, and again the NC is absolutely insane. Another point is that firmware updates will hopefully keep improving on the already impressive and interesting tech inside these cans.
All in all, I really do like the MX4's, but due to the price, it makes me hard to recommend to someone who cares chiefly about sound quality first, and the convenience and portability/NC factors second. If this is the case, I'd say go to something with a better sound profile, and you will likely find yourself spending less with a better musical experience, and a recommendation off the top of my head would be the EXCELLENT Senheiser HD599's (around $200 new on Amazon). Personally, if they would have saved on some R&D and kept the voice and calling features to a minimum but dropped the price, this would be a no-brainer for everyone, but I digress. If however, you need the solid NC and are excited about the mobility and convenience and the versatility that these cans can bring, and are okay with the compromise on sound quality as well as the steep asking price, I would say you would be hard-pressed to go anywhere else than the MX4's. I am still debating on keeping these or not, as I have been spoiled with amazing sound experiences for the past 3-5 years now, and I find it hard to take a hit to my pocketbook like this when I could get a truly awe-inspiring pair of audiophile cans to use with my current setup for the same exact price, though the MX4's are good enough to make it a hard decision which is itself a promising sign.
Tldr; Should you buy the MX4's? It depends, but I do like them, and you need to just consider your use case when making that decision. This is a lot of money to spend on a pair of headphones, and if sound quality plays a large part in your decision, you have some serious competition to look at. Would I say I recommend the MX4's in general? Yes.
- *Everything* is done through a fairly decent mobile app. I'm fine with this, especially since it makes some things very simple (e.g. switching between multiple devices).
- Bluetooth connectivity is stellar. Latency is invisible (FAR better than anything I've tried except the competitive Bose headsets), switching is very quick (like 1s), no stuttering or issues whatsoever.
- It's a little sad / surprising that LDAC isn't supported when using multiple connections... but meh. AAC still sounds great.
- Noice cancelling is absolutely top-notch and incredible. But you already know this.
- EQ is.......... bad. Plain and simple. There's no nicer way to describe it. There are worse EQs out there! But this is well below average.
But.
BUT.
HOLY COW is this "boomy". So much so that it gives me a headache after about an hour at my normal relatively-low listening volume, even without noise-canceling. The Bose QC 35 ii are better at this, and I feel like the 1000XM3 were better too. You can turn the "clear bass" literally ALL THE WAY DOWN and it stops booming, but then it's clearly imbalanced.
Returned. Still looking for a bluetooth headset that doesn't have ridiculous issues. Maybe a firmware update of the Aonic 50 will fix their connectivity issues and improve noise canceling, because those sound absolutely *phenomenal* by comparison.
Here is the heartbreaker, using these on my Android phone and they sound superb, perfect, no stutter or cutting out. I downloaded the app and was able to tweak them to sound even better. But again this does nothing for using them on a PC.
One of the features I was most excited about was using these on 2 devices at a time, but it's a mixed bag at best. You have to manually switch them in the app, or turn the connection on/off on the device which is just as much of a pain as any other bluetooth headset without this function. The Android phone seems to be unable to connect back to them many times and I have to go to bluetooth settings and manually connect.
The ANC function is just amazing, I have my home office in a finished basement and have all kinds of furnace/fan and overhead footstep sounds, but with ANC on I heard zero of the furnace/fan, and the overhead footsteps were dampened quite a bit. My main reason to get these was for the ANC and I wasn't disappointed. One issue is that the left earphone has a hiss which sounds like the noise cancellation is a bit more aggressive, it's only noticeable when playing stuff at low or no volume. Not necessarily a deal breaker, but makes the function seem unfinished or faulty and spoils the perfection of the ANC otherwise.
Fit: These fit oddly, they are too large for my head, and I have a pretty large head. Most headphones are small on me, but these, even shortened all the way, still sit slightly below my ears. I can place the top band towards the front of my head to correct this, but it takes away from the comfort. The earphones themselves are not as comfortable as I hoped they would be based on reviews. One reason I was upgrading from the Samsung Level On's is because the Level On's earpieces are kind of small and caused fatigue on my ears after a few hours. While the Sony's earpieces are larger, I feel the way they sit on your head will make them just as fatiguing, maybe worse as they are fairly heavy. The top band doesn't have suspension system as I would expect with something this expensive, just some foam.
So overall I wanted to love these, and I do except for the fact that I cannot get them to work on a Windows 10 PC. Judging by the plethora of issues I found in searching for this issue with the XM3's it seems I'm not alone. Unfortunately, regardless of how good they are, that's useless for me if I can't even use them and I have to rate them at 1 star. Will most likely be returning these unless I can find a solution.
I decided to try Sony’s high-end WH-1000XM4 wireless headset. When I called the person on the top of my speed dial list to see how the phone call quality was, she said on her end of our phone calls to her were always fuzzy sounding, and that they clipped some beginning and ending syllables. Another frequent caller said our phone calls were alright (though he couldn’t rave about any aspect of the call quality at all). He also said he could no longer hear anyone in the background speaking from across the room when they spoke away from the headset. In my circumstances this can be both good or bad, depending on what results I want.
As the headphone wearer, I found phone conversations to be terrible regardless of the various settings I tried. Phone calls were terrible to listen to as they sounded so forced and unnatural. And they were also terrible to talk on due to inadequate sidetone and unnatural sound of my own voice. Also, the back of the headphones rubbed against my chair and that carried into the headphones acoustically.
The right cup wasn’t big enough, and so usually my right earlobe was scrunched under the cup edge unless I manually adjusted it each time I placed the headphones on my head.
I didn’t like the Sony apps I had to install on my iPhone; they just didn’t feel like they fit well into my chosen Apple ecosystem. There was also something about the initiation process each time I turned them on that forced some manual connect operation. I didn’t like that I had to take the headphones off to adjust my head height, and also in doing so, they shut the headphones off (though I could could change that default if I was willing to turn off the auto shutoff).
The “midnight blue” color might as well have been black. Initial reactions from 3 of 4 of us were that the headphones were black. Not even close to blue. We could see bluish elements by looking carefully, but the perceived color was far closer to midnight black than midnight blue. And I even paid extra for the blue color that I desired and felt that I did not receive.
I liked the volume up and volume down and skip forward and skip back motions, as they were very intuitive. I wish it was available on both sides of my head though, rather than only the one.
I generally was not impressed by the fit and comfort, and never really felt completely comfortable wearing the headphones as there was an angle and tightness that was not fully satisfying.
I really wish there was a lightning-to-headphone cable included, as then I would have tried wired phone calls, though I am pretty sure the lack of decent sidetone would still have been an issue, and I am guessing that the voice quality would have still been an issue to some large degree. Even if wired mode would fix the sound quality completely, I want wireless for my primary usage.
I found the added ability to listen to music or a phone call while also listening to ambient noises or discussions was somewhat more helpful than nothing, but woefully inadequate for routine use, no matter how I adjusted the various controls. And specifically, someone walking up to me and posing a question left one or the other or both of us always feeling frustrated in our communication ability. It was helpful to have some sense of what is going on around me, but not at all helpful to interact with another person intentionally.
The 3D sound was “cute”, and even satisfying, but until my existing library of 400+ albums had some automated 3D effects, why bother? Having a few special 3D albums, while having the totality of my well-loved collection being 2D just made me frustrated with the music that I love and devalued my entire collection in my mind. 3D was novel, but otherwise caused me real dissatisfaction with my collection acquired over the decades. I will always avoid 3D unless my old standbys can electronically simulate some 3D effects on my request.
I am not a high-end audio guy, but my music sounded fine to me. I really needed the phone calls to sound decent, and they instead were unacceptable for business use. These headphones weren’t worth the almost $300 cost to me, and in fact I would pay maybe $50 for them for music listening, and would simply be unwilling to use them for free for routine business phone calls.
I can tell you with certainty that I am going to be returning these Sony WH-1000XM4s, primarily due to telephone call inadequacy, but also because I really wanted a rich dark blue color.
From day 1, I have had nothing but horrendous issues with the bluetooth dual-pairing.
Just in general, it fails to do its job. You cannot just go from the computer to the iphone and vice versa. I spend so much time fiddling with the controls to get back between the computer and the iphone. I will have to change to a different audio instrument on the computer before it will sync back with the iphone.
But even worse, it just randomly unpairs like constantly as I'm listening to music and podcasts on my phone. Like constantly. And then it takes 5 minutes to figure out how to get it to pair back up.
It's just terrible.
Sound quality is great. They are more comfortable than the 3.
But call quality is also just plain bad. You cannot use them as a headset like you can with the Bose 700. I cannot tell you how many times I hear that people cannot understand me while I'm using them as a headset and it is so embarrassing.
I really want to like these headphones, but they're making me go crazy.
They ignored and failed to address another issue, which was the total malfunction of the Quick Attention Mode, where you place your hand over the right ear cup and it pauses and goes to ambient. Didn't work from day 1, and no firmware update resolved it. Reeeeeeeeeturned them suckas.
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Noticed that anytime the mics were active, either in a standard phone call or a VOIP call on a laptop, the noise cancelling took a noticeable step back. All ambient noise became much more noticeable. After playing with the NC modes, I feel it's not quite the same as "sound control off" - it seems to be blocking certain frequencies? But NC is noticeably reduced, whichever frequencies aside.
Spoke to Sony Level 2 support (which was responsive) and they indicated this is working as designed. The device borrows mics from NC to bring in voice so noise cancelling can't operate fully when the mics are being used. (He also tried to tell me that if it maintained full NC, my voice would be blocked out for the other side - I'll chock that up to ignorance blended with desperation.)
I can understand if the NC was less precise with fewer mics listening, but dropping the intensity of the NC noticeably? Ya?
My Gen 1s from 2017 give me full noise cancelling during calls. This is a big step back.
The pro reviews are singing this thing's praises universally - this is a huge miss IMHO. (And I'm not even going to mention problems with the Android app.)
Probably sending them back. So disappointed.
I can tell you it sounds great, but that's to be expected from a brand new pair of premium headphones anyway. Listening to them I was not blown away. I didn't get it... until I went back to listen to my old pair for comparison. WOW! Only then could I truly appreciate the immense acoustic separation that the 1000XM4 fields! Perhaps it was the AI upscaling my MP3 to a higher level or perhaps it was just relying on it laurels as a superb pair of high quality headphones. Whatever it was, WOW!
Perhaps the first sign that these were truly a magnificent piece of engineering, was when I put them on. The noise cancelling alone seem to create the feeling that I was in another world, the current world (of sounds) being blotted out. And then the music track dropped.
However, the only real issue that I had was that I wasn't able to enjoy the 360 Reality Audio. I cannot understand why these features were not built into the headphone so that everyone could enjoy it anywhere, instead of a limited subset of people relying on a few less popular websites like Tidal, and restricted to a handful of pre-selected songs. This is not good. People have vast libraries and their own user-created audio files that cannot utilize this feature. Moreover, even Apple or Spotify steaming service cannot access this acoustic engine.
One school of thought is for Sony to use AI to split the audio into several objects and place them around the user in real time, creating a crisp, immersive audio experience. And since custom settings are possible, the AI could play the same song in several different ways or move the objects around to create a real-live effect. In other words - simulated live concert in a headphone.
"Better than the artist intended."
This must be what Sony intends for in 2022, or how else can there be a WH-1000XM5?







