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We really like the large font and lighted screen on the display (old eyes!). Also the audio announce of the callerId, though I wish there was a way to limit the number of times the audio is repeated (basically repeats on every ring, which gets old if you can't grab the phone right away).
This system replaces an earlier model pf the Panasonic DECT 6, which also performed well for several years and now is doing the same for someone else.
I bet many of you are like me in that I get far too many damned robo-dialed "spam" phone calls. They drive me crazy! And because I am a Comcast phone subscriber, I use their NoMoRobo to cut down on the spam calls, but NoMoRobo has one fault (not of their making): there is always ONE ring that comes through before NoMoRobo hangs up on them. You'll be in bed trying to sleep and here comes one ring to jar you out of your dreams, and then ... the ringing stops. GRRRRRR.....!
The one-ring problem is no one's fault because of the way CallerID works. When a phone call reaches your home, the digital CallerID information does not arrive until AFTER the first ring. That's just the way CallerID works. Thus, no one, or no one machine, knows who is calling until AFTER that first ring. Therefore, NoMoRobo cannot do anything until after that first ring is finished, which is why you always get one ring before NoMoRobo can step in and react. For that matter, NO smart phone system can react and hang up on someone until AFTER that first ring. Blame it on CallerID and nothing else!
All of this got me to wondering "there HAS to be someone who understands this issue and who makes a phone system that lets you disable the first ring of all of your calls." If you had a phone like that, then you would be home free. The first ring still arrives at the phone, but the phone itself suppresses that first ring (while allowing all subsequent rings). But by this time, NoMoRobo has had a chance to assess "friend or foe" and hang up if it's a "foe" that is in their database. What this means is no more of those highly-annoying one-ring phone calls that disrupt your tranquil life.
After doing a little research, I found that ALL Panasonic phones these days have incorporated this feature! Hot damn, I said, and I settled on this particular KX-TGF574S model only because it looks pretty much like the old system, but is updated a little bit including this new one-ring-disable feature. I don't care about any of the other features. All I want is to eliminate the annoying spam phone calls!
To enable this feature, turn to page 36 of the instruction manual in the "Call Block" subsection. Here's the short story:
MENU --> SETTINGS --> CALL BLOCK --> ONE RING FOR BLOCKED CALL --> select NO.
For some odd reason, "no" means "do not allow the phone to ring on the first ring tone." It's a bit counter-intuitive to me, but that's the way it is. Save this setting, then hit the phone's OFF button. After this, the first ring will never be heard (although you WILL see all of the phone's LCD screens light up when the call comes in, just no sound). And if NoMoRobo is working and detects that the number is a spam call, it automatically hangs up on them. That kills all subsequent ringing, meaning your phone will not sound whatsoever for that one call. Problem (almost) solved!
Unfortunately, NoMoRobo is an imperfect system. Robo calls still make it past their system if the spoofed phone number is not in their database. I have found that the calls that usually make it past them are ones that have the same prefix as my own. For instance, if my phone number were 123-456-7890, then a call with the prefix of 123-456 usually gets past them. But there are others that escape them. I just had one this morning from allegedly a part of the state where I know no one. So what to do?
This is where the second useful feature of the Panasonic phone system comes in handy, especially if you do not have access to NoMoRobo to help you out, but it takes a bit of effort on your part to incorporate. The phone has the ability to store 3,000 phone numbers if you are willing to take the time to enter the information of people you WANT to hear from. It consumes a fair amount of time because you're stuck entering NAME and PHONE NUMBER on the numerical keyboard, no easy ting to do. (It's the same way cellphone texting USED to be!) BUT, if you're willing to do it, then you should. What you do this, you are creating a WHITE LIST. That is, "these are people I WANT to accept calls from." Family, friends, doctors, etc. You COULD use the phone's BLACK LIST feature, but this is a fruitless endeavor because the phone's ability to store blacklisted numbers is very limited, 250 numbers maximum. Phone spammers chew through bogus phone numbers far faster than you can enter them in your phone and overflow its storage capabilities. Black listing never works, but the white lists do!
Here's the key thing to do: enter all of the names and numbers of people you want to hear from in the phone. I made something like 50 entries like this, and it probably took me 2 hours to do (I'm very slow at alphanumerical texting). For each person/number you enter, make sure you assign them to a single "group." I chose Group 4, but it's arbitrary. Group 4 is as good as any. I then re-named Group 4 as "White List" but you don't need to do that. I just did it to make it obvious what Group 4 is used for on my phone.
Now for the secret sauce: once that's all done, then you have the ability to assign a different ring tone to that group, one that is different that the phone's default ring tone. The Panasonic phone offers a lot of goofy ring tones that are quite distinctive. Chose one and assign it to your white-listed people (Group 4 for me).
Once you have done that, then whenever your phone rings because the spoofed number got past your NoMoRobo filter, if that number is in your white list, the people you WANT to hear from, your phone will ring with the distinctive ringtone that you just assigned above. No longer do you have to get up to SEE who is calling by reading the phone's caller ID information on the LCD screen. No, you can let your EARS do the filtering rather than your EYES! When you hear that distinctive ring, you know to get up and answer the phone!
I still get mad as hell at the idiots who get through my spam filtering system and want to personally hang up on them (like that will do any good). Thus, when I do get the now-very-infrequent spam call, I recognize it by the standard ringtone and quickly get up to get to the phone. I do a fast check of the CallerID information on the screen, which usually says it's from some part of the country that is unknown to me, and quickly hit the CALL BLOCK button. The phone then gives me the menu option "Block call?" Choose YES, and the phone then hangs up on the call while also storing that (bogus) number in its blocked call memory. Now if they call back again using that number, as they often do, the phone will automatically hang up on them and you won't ever know what happened! I.e., you won't hear the phone ring at all, as intended. Of course, your phone's blocked call memory bank will eventually fill up. When that happens, you select the ERASE command to clear all the numbers, hoping that by now those blocked numbers are no longer being used, as is often the case.
After doing all of that, my house has been much quieter. I used to get 2-5 spam calls a day. Since I got this Panasonic system about 4 weeks ago and created my white list in it, I have had only 5 spam calls. It is not a perfect solution, but I finally feel like I have control over my phone system again.
Sorry to take so long describing all of this, but I'm sure that many of you will want to know how to cut down on your spam calls. This is my way of doing it.
If you do nothing more than plug your phone into a phone line and a power outlet, you'll have a highly capable phone that will set itself up automatically with the proper date and time, and which will answer calls after the fourth ring with a generic greeting to leave a message. If you're happy with that, you need do nothing more. I like that Panasonic has gone to using standard rechargeable AAA batteries, which are included and otherwise readily available. Finding replacements is trivial, but the included batteries usually last years. Linking to a cell phone is no more difficult than pairing any two Bluetooth devices, but it still works well with a land line for those of us who still use one.
The call block function works beautifully and Panasonic has added a dedicated button on every handset. On getting a spam call, simply press the button and confirm, and you'll never get a call from that number again. That feature alone is worth upgrading your phone. Call quality is very good and call volume is easily adjusted. Call waiting works well, with the second caller's number clearly displayed with caller ID. Spoken caller ID - as with previous models - can be a bit annoying and sometimes humorous in the way it tries to pronounce things, but the feature is useful when you're not near a phone.
The one complaint, which is not unique to this phone, is what happens when there is interference. Some other reviews have touched on poor call quality as an issue, but we've found the call quality itself to be nearly perfect. The problem is that we live in a high-rise apartment building with thousands of tenants around us. At any time there are about two dozen Wi-Fi networks within range, and our wireless mice and keyboards occasionally cease to function due to all the RF interference. Although it's not common, we sometimes lose the connection during a call; most often with the person at the other end being unable to hear us. Simply turning around can affect call quality. The spread spectrum digital transmission method used by Panasonic goes a long way toward alleviating call problems - and there really has been a significant improvement over early cordless models - but in the age of extensive mesh Wi-Fi networks for the home, you'd think Panasonic could improve on the good old cordless phone. Maybe it really is time to stop using landlines.
10/2018 update: Panasonic replaced this phone for no charge, other than shipping it to them (kudos to Panasonic since it was well out of warranty). Unfortunately, the new phone produces the same garbled sound on bluetooth as the first one. Si IK think we can conclude that this model has problems with its bluetooth implementation.
The last thing I don't like about this phone is that you can't delete messages from the handsets. You can listen to them but not delete them. To do that you have to go to the base station. What a pain.
Is there anything good about this phone? Well, I suppose it works. It can make calls... it has several handsets for different rooms... but none of that really matters because I don't want to use this phone for the reasons above.
Panasonic if you can please give me a diagnostic entry to increase the gain to the handset speakerphone speaker. If that's all it has then you can state that. I am aware Panasonic monitors these reviews.
Presently I have requested for a replacement and let see how that goes and will provide my update on the replacement piece
I don’t know if this is a problem with the Bluetooth radio in the Panasonic base unit on my particular system or this is the weak link of this model phone system, but with my experience from this Panasonic DECT Link2Cell phone system, I would not recommend it if you are looking for a home phone system to use with your cell phones.
It is too unreliable to maintain connectivity or to pair back up with your cell phones when you return within range of the home phones base unit.
As for the other features of this phone, the call block feature does work and so far works well. The call announcement feature is a joke. The pronunciation of names is awful and, most part, are hard to understand.
Talking on the phone is clear on all but one phone that is staticky. This handset is furthest away and on another floor but the DECT phone it replaced didn’t have any issues.
I also wish there were more ringtones to choose from.
Update on Panasonic Link2Cell Bluetooth Phone System.
04-13-2020
Been using this system now for 7 months and can’t change my initial rating.
Since my initial review I have replaced my iPhone 6s+ with the iPhone 11 Pro Max. The problem with loosing Bluetooth connectivity improved a little but was still sporadic at best. When answering a cell call on the Panasonic Link2cell phone there was a slight echo noted by the caller but was tolerable.
There’s been no change in the Bluetooth connectivity issues with my wife’s iPhone 6s.
One of the pros on this phone is if you pair 2 phones like we do the Panasonic Link 2 Cell will use the same ring tone as that cellphone uses. Of course you must have a different ringtone on each cellphone.
I also love the caller block function on the Panasonic System.
As for the one extension that was furthest away from the base and just couldn’t make it work in that location, I moved it to another room and am relying on another older phone system to fill that void in my home office.
I was hoping for a reliable portable phone system that paired with our cellphones and would allow us to do away with our landline.
This just isn’t that phone system! (0^0)
I've had these only 2 days, but have noticed that the volume compared to my older Panasonic , is only half. I'm slightly hard of hearing (or so other people tell me), but these are hard to hear ring at the remotes and the person talking is about 1/2 as loud. Would return them but the reviews on the amplified phones say the clarity is bad. So I either keep these at a soft, but clear volume or get a louder volume but muffled sound. I'll keep these for a year or two and then if my hearing gets worse, I'll re-shop for a better phone. Got them on Prime day so about $30 savings. I needed the 250 call blocks with answering machine which really works well on these.
Update: 8 6 2019 Because you can add ANY detect 6.0 handsets, I added my older Amplified handsets (2). They can answer, talk, dial out, see phonebook. They cannot speed dial or block (because they are from 2016 and do not match up perfectly. To block I just pick up one of the newer ones and block it. Using the older amplified I can hear perfectly.
This phone has all the features you would expect, including call blocking (but that's not where the robo-call killer is), crystal clear sound, long operation on a battery charge, etc. You are probably figuring out the call-blocker isn'y working so well any more as the robo-callers are now using a different phone number every time they call you. That renders your call-block useless.
The really big deal is a combination of two features. One is that you can put your friends / family / business contacts into groups, each with a distinct ring. And the other really big deal is the do-not-disturb function. I have mine set to start at 1:30PM, and end and 1:29PM. So basically, my phone is always in do-not-disturb mode. And... I set the groups (family / friends / etc) to ring even during do not disturb periods. So people that i know and are in my call-groups will still ring my phone just like normal. But Robo-callers don't ring the phone and they never leave a message because they mostly know you won't call them back. So they can change their calling number all they want and it still won't ring my phone. If someone I need to communicate with does call me and they are not in one of my ring-through groups, they will normally leave a message and I can add them into one of your groups later if I want. These two features have saved my sanity. I NEVER get disturbed by Robo-calls any more. This alone makes this phone a must-buy!
PS: I don't use the cell-phone or blue-tooth functions, so cannot comment on how well those work.
My other complaint is that in general the entire menu settings interaction is worse that bad tech from two decades ago. It is basically the same hierarchical menu design that you would find on an automated voice system, and we all know how much fun those are! Here’s an example of how that plays out: by default, the phone system speaks caller ID. If you want to turn that annoying chatty robot voice off, you have navigate through about 10 steps on the base unit to set it to “off.” But wait, you’re not done. You now have to repeat that 10 step dance on every handset because they seem to have minds of their own. But wait, you’re still not done! You’ve only turned off chatty caller ID for the landline. Talking caller ID still happens for incoming cell calls. To turn that off, you now have to navigate through an even more complicated set of menus and yep, you guessed it, you have to do it on the base station and on all the handsets. Whew. Even after all of that effort, I have one handset that refuses to accept this simple request and will not shut up.
I am sending the whole system back to returns! Bottom line, so long as you just want a cordless phone it’s fine. But maybe you could save a little money and buy a cheaper model without the bluetooth which is just not ready for prime time.
The problems were:
Ringer and caller I.D. sound were ridiculously loud. When I made a call, (at the highest volume)the person at the other end sounded low and garbled. He complained to me that at his end, it sounded like I was shouting at him.
I returned the phone.





