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- + Цена для бюджетной материнки более чем адекватная, качество +++, архитектура позволяет собрать "машину" как для самых продвинутых игр, так и для начального уровня 3D.
Огромная на мой взгляд линейка поддерживаемых процессоров для людей с самым разным достатком, самый дорогой процессор который поддерживает данная материнская...
- + Хорошее оснащение, качество.
- - Со старыми видеокартами могут возникнуть сложности. Решается прошивкой нужной версией...
- + Цена для бюджетной материнки более чем адекватная, качество +++, архитектура позволяет собрать "машину"...
- + Хорошая материнская плата от проверенного производителя. Есть M.2.
- - Мало видеовыходов.
- + Дешевая
Компактная - - Небольшой нагрев
- + Хорошая бюджетная материнка, удобный Биос.
- - В комплектации отсутствует фишка для сброса биоса.
- + встала на место 410 просто идеально
These days we don't build many machines ... save for professional grade gaming rigs, CAD stations, and File Servers. Anything else -- just go buy something from Dell or HP and call it a day. <G>
So I don't have much experience with Micro-ATX Ryzen boards, as you wouldn't ordinarily choose one for any of the aforementioned building scenarios.
So the first thing I did was pop a Ryzen 5 3600 (same CPU my friend tried) into the socket and power it up ...
NADA! Not a blip on the fan, CPU Fan, no measurable voltage anywhere with a volt meter. So ... dead, right?
Wrong! Being familiar with the finicky BIOS requirements for different CPU's in this board, I tried something older. It was actually an AMD A8. Well, that was too old (not on the compatible CPU list) but it did prove that the board wasn't dead. With that CPU installed, it did everything you'd expect -- except POST.
Digging a little deeper, I tore apart one of my older rigs and unearthed a Ryzen 5 1600. Bingo! The board powered up to a successful POST. But here's where it gets interesting ...
According to the Gigabyte website, the BIOS required for the Ryzen 5 3600 is F40. The installed BIOS on the board, as shipped, was F41. So the box bore the "AMD Ryzen 3000 Desktop Ready" label, and should have worked. I went ahead and flashed to F50 (the latest as I'm writing this) while my 1600 was installed, reset to all of the default settings, and powered it off.
At this point, I inserted the Ryzen 5 3600 back into the socket, powered up and ... the board works as it should!
Not satisfied (because it should have worked with F41) I tried to see if I could a) get that revision to work, or b) reproduce the bizarre state the board shipped in. So I flashed back down to F32 (which doesn't support the Ryzen 3000 series) and reset the BIOS to defaults. Switching back to the 3600 at this point, it behaved as I would have expected. Fans spin, board powers up, but the CPU won't POST.
Next I put the 1600 back in and flashed to F41 ... but this time I purposely did not reset the BIOS to default settings. Switched back to the 3600, and there we were ... back to the way the board shipped. Seemingly DOA. One more switch back to the 1600, reset the BIOS to default settings, switch back to the 3600 ... and indeed it works with F41 as well.
So while I can't say this for certain (because obviously I didn't see their boards) I think many of the DOA experiences from the other posters might be due to a rash of boards that were hastily flashed from F32 (which is required first for anything beyond that) to F41 (so that they would be "Ryzen 3000 Ready") without resetting the BIOS to default settings. This seems to pretty consistently produce a board that appears to be DOA (at least with a Ryzen 5 3600 installed). It's also a much more plausible explanation than Gigabyte sending out a rash of dead boards. We've dealt with them for years (though admittedly with products a bit higher up the food chain) and have never had QC experiences of that nature.
They're not totally off the hook, though. As if this is what happened, they're going to get a rash of these thrown back at them, and rightly so. That's why I took a star away. I'm using this board right now. Performance-wise, it's been fantastic.
If you're a tinkering sort, and you know what you're doing, and you have access tp extra Ryzen CPU's, then this is a solid choice, it's probably the most "bang for the buck" in this price range. On the other hand, if you're not all of these things, you're only going to save 5 or 10 bucks over the next competing brand. The time you'll likely waste unraveling this mystery is worth far more than that. So much so, that I'd strongly advise you to choose something else if that's the case.
My only gripe, AMD's next gen CPUs are not going to be compatible with the B450m series, I wish I had known this prior to purchase. If you want a bit of future proofing look into the new Ryzen board compatibility before investing in B450m.
Build:
Gigabyte B450M DS3H
Ryzen 5 3600 (stock voltage)
Stock cooler
RX 580 (bought it for giggles at $90, stopped giggling when it pulled around 70fps in Warzone on high....)
Silicon Power 512GB NVMe M.2 (I was sure this would be a joke at $60.....holy crap its awesome lol)
OLOy DDR4 8gbx2 (again sceptical of the off brand, but with the XMP profile enabled it registers as advertised with this board)
EVGA Supernova 850 gold (Way overkill but got a silly deal I couldn't pass up on CL)
This was an ultra budget build for the sole purpose of Warzone....it has achived that goal in spades.
DO NOT BUY THIS BOARD IF YOU HAVE A 2ND OR 3RD GEN RYZEN AMD CPU!!!
It says it works with them, but it absolutely does not without a bios update. This isn't possible unless you have an old CPU that you have to install, then update the bios, and then uninstall and then reinstall your new CPU. This is utterly unacceptable and I refuse to give more than 1 star. The absurdity of what has happened makes me realize even more why I was such an Intel fanboy before. I have never in over a decade had this trouble and I am honestly frustrated and furious. They also state in the return policy they may charge 15% if a "DOA" return isn't deemed DOA. I will fight tooth and nail with them if they try to pull this because false advertising is absolutely NO reason I should be charged for returning it.
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As of right now, this is staying at 3 stars due to a possible DOA unit. I know these things happen, hence me still remaining optimistic. I will update my review once I get the new unit and have the computer up and running. If it works out, I will move to 4 stars. If the next one comes not working I will move to 1 star and not recommend.
One thing I REALLY wish I would have paid attention to during my first micro build is this:
ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MOBO HAS ONLY 2 FAN SLOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
You will 100% need to daisy chain your case fans as 2 fans are not nearly enough for airflow.
Why this is a thing is absolutely mind-boggling to me - so unlike me scrambling at the end to run to a brick and mortar store to get fan splitter cables (good luck finding them, btw. I got the last 2 in my store and that wasn't even enough.)
Here are the others I got:
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I have to remove one star for this. I know it isn't anyone's fault I didn't look into this further BUT upon research, I have found that not all boards have so few fan slots and I think it is just unacceptable
My ONLY complaints about the board is the location and orientation of the sata ports can cause interference with any decent sized graphics card. The ports are orients straight off the board, instead of to the side- so cables will point straight towards the card. The lower 2 will clear most cards with ease (My application has a 1080ti, and even then both ports were easily accessible), but the upper two ports are covered. You CAN readily use a low-profile sata cable however, just keep that in mind.
Second and last real complaint about the board is that it lacks much in the way of fan headers. Theres a single fan header for your cpu, and a single fan header for your system fans. *Thats it*. If you plan to run more than 2 fans, you will need to approach this (Fan controller, splitters, fans powered by sata or molex, etc). Not a huge deal- again, this is a 75 dollar board- but one thing to keep in mind.
One last and very, VERY minor critique, is that the ram is located quite high on the board, which can cause screw-clearance issues with top mounted fans/radiators. Ive installed these boards in a few different cases now and things have ALWAYS fit, but the ram posts always block off 1 screw in the top fans. Ive always had to install the fans, than the board. If you want to do anything with the fans, you have to remove the board to get that last screw (assuming you dont just leave the screw out). Not a huge deal by any means- abut again, something to be aware of.
Again, for the price? Phenomenal product.
Additionally, SPICY BOMB, the provider of this board, delivered it AHEAD of schedule, for which I thank them. I will definitely keep them in mind for my next PC project.
One other thing that bothered me while attaching things to the board was the difficulty I had reading the labels for the front panel connections (since the text was small).
First build, and for the price and issue, I don't think it's worth it to RMA, but I'm pretty disappointed that there is a lack of quality control.
Other than the above, I've had no issues with the board, and my games are running smoothly.
EDIT: Actually, the problem does not appear to be a SATA port at all! In fact, it appears that I'll have to RMA my motherboard after all. So I started getting the same issue where my computer would crash if I was using it normally such as browsing the internet or copying files to my C drive. I called Gigabyte support (very nice and helpful) who instructed me to test with a single stick of RAM. I tested both sticks individually, and I was still having problems, so they asked me to reinstall Windows 10. Once I do, it's a nightmare installing my GPU drivers. My computer constantly freezes in the middle of installation. On top of that, I cannot even test if my GPU is causing the problems because if I completely remove my GPU and connect my HDMI monitor to the motherboard, nothing POSTs. I checked the BIOS settings as well to see if I could use the motherboard HDMI slot, but the only display option I saw was PCIE slot 1.
The funny thing is, I encounter zero issues when playing games, but I'm literally unable to use my PC normally, so I don't think the issue is something other than the motherboard. I'm honestly at the end of my rope here. I'm going to RMA this one, but in the future, I think I'll stay away from Gigabyte.
Only 1 case fan header; no ONBOARD on/off button, status lights, reset switch or bios flash button. But that's expected at this price point. Memory easily clears stock coolers (stealth & spire). No manual included you must download it from Gigabyte site. I'd gladly pay a few bucks to have it included. Box said "Ryzen 3000 ready" and it was. A 3600 & 1600 AF recognized. Bios version is F50 on both of mine. 8 pin cpu power connector required which is ridiculous as no one in their right mind would put a 100w cpu in this. USB, sata, m2 all good. The only improvement I would like is an led "good" power light & a manual. Gskill Aegis 3200 Ram F4-3200C16D-16GIS booted right up; it's not on the QVL list but xmp profile 1 was recognized by bios. Both machines are extemely fast.
Whats worse is that the second replacement I received wasn't even in the static proof bag nor had any original contents and was USED!
Edit: My original review was 1 star. I changed it to 3 for the following reason. When I went to return the board before ordering a replacement, the automated return system gave me the option the actual people I spoke with did not- to have a replacement shipped free of charge first and I return the item after I get the new one. I had to specify a valid payment option so that if I didn't return it within 30 days they would charge it. However it let me. The replacement is here, installed, and seems to be doing well so far without issues. I will update again if there are hardware failures again.
* One of the screwholes is obstructed by the RAM clips.
* Putting your GPU into one of the PCIE slots will obstruct the connections for the front USB header and the front IO panel.
* Putting your GPU into the other PCIE slot will obstruct one of the SATA ports, meaning only 3 will be available.
* Since the board only supports RAID 1, 0, and 10, and there are only 3 SATA ports usable, you'll only be able to use RAID 0 (striping without redundancy) if you have 3 drives.
* Either the RAID setup instructions on their website are wrong, or the RAID drivers on the disk they included don't work, or both. Here's how I was able to set up RAID 0 using UEFI:
1. Throw the driver CD in the trash.
2. Download the updated RAID drivers from Gigabyte.com.
3. Transfer the RAID drivers a USB. (You can put them in a directory on your Windows installation USB drive.)
4. Google the RAID setup instructions and find the right PDF from Gigabyte, since instructions were not included with the motherboard.
5. Follow the UEFI RAID setup instructions EXCEPT:
5a. After you create the RAID array, go back into the BIOS and change CSM support back to Enabled. If you don't do this, then your GPU's output will be pixelated and pink.
5b. When you are providing Windows setup with the drivers, you need to provide 2 drivers. The second driver will only show up after the first one is installed, so you will need to browse into the directory of drivers that you put on your USB drive two times. After this, your RAID array will appear in the Windows installation, and you'll be able to install Windows on it.
6. Until it dies after a week.











