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Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
I installed this 10 yrs ago and it went out during the weekend. I must say this is a no brainer. I paid a little under 800 dollars for 10 yrs Worth of service. So yes I did get the same brand.. hoping for another 10 yrs.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
Been hobbling along with a 38-gallon tank for a family of 6 in a two bathroom house for close to 10 years. This is up there with one of the best appliance purchases we've ever made. For the first time ever could fill the bath up. The first time we could get everyone a bath/shower within an hour - had to wait 20-45 minutes for the tank heater to "reheat". Freed up a whole closet full of space! Had electrician expand into a separate sub-panel for this. No dimming when active and cut-offs for each circuit next to the unit. Fairly easy DIY install. Had old unit out and new in over a few hours. The buttons on the unit for the saved settings and information weren't working out of the box, but only because it had separated a bit - snapped the circuit board right back into place and all good. Quality seems very high. We are in south Texas, so no worries about ever getting the water hot enough. Settled around 120 - inlet temp never drops below 60. Weird not thinking about not doing dishes before (or during) someone's shower because you'd use all the hot water... guess I get use to worrying less. :)
Update After 1 Year:
Including picture of the units calculated savings - $153; not too shabby, thought have to admin, this device makes it a bit easier to use more hot water. Rarely a week goes by without still have a large amount of appreciation for this appliances. Still, hands down, best appliance upgrade to our home. No issues and I'm keeping up with descaling (with vinegar) once a year.
Update After 1 Year:
Including picture of the units calculated savings - $153; not too shabby, thought have to admin, this device makes it a bit easier to use more hot water. Rarely a week goes by without still have a large amount of appreciation for this appliances. Still, hands down, best appliance upgrade to our home. No issues and I'm keeping up with descaling (with vinegar) once a year.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
After years of taking short showers and eventually increasing the size of the coil in our boiler with the hope of having it provide an acceptable reserve of domestic hot water we concluded that the only logical solution would be to replace the boiler at considerable expense. However, despite critical advice from local plumbers I went ahead and purchased a Tempura 12 and had it professionally installed at the boiler output using the boiler to preheat water for whole house distribution. I was limited to the Tempura 12 because we only have 100 Amp service. It was a leap of faith for sure but, despite the 12 being the lightest duty of the Tempra models it has has completely solved the problem by providing a constant supply of 120° water for a single family home with two bathrooms. We couldn't be more pleased with the performance. The combined cost of the heater plus the professional installation was only a fraction of what it would have cost to replace the boiler. Based on my experience I can highly recommend the technology and Stiebel Elton products.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
The cost of this tanless water heater is equivalent to a high end tank type electric water heater. I had to install three new 220 volt circuits which made the initial installation more expensive and time consuming but worth it. I am a contractor so the parts is all that I had as an additional expense. I now have an endless supply of hot water, and when the day comes to replace the unit, it will be a plug and play installation that could be done in less 15 minutes. The initial install took about 6 hours with rerouting the water lines and installing the three new electrical circuits. I have more room in my utility room now that I have moved the water softener to where the water heater use to be.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
2/10
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Ужасно
Bought this in March, died in July. Was working fine and I had no issues. Now won't get much warmer then warm. Called customer service and they are sending a replacement......That I have to pay to have reinstalled.
So I am going to do just that. Then I will file a Small Claims lawsuit and drag them out here since they refuse to pay for the installation of their defective item.
So I am going to do just that. Then I will file a Small Claims lawsuit and drag them out here since they refuse to pay for the installation of their defective item.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
2/10
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Ужасно
I was so excited to get this for a Christmas gift. I purchased 3 roles ($125 ea at HomeDepot) of 8/2 wire and the three 40 amp dp breakers. Keep in mind the electrical side can be expensive if you have run the wire all the way on the other side of the house. Over all, installation was easy and I added a few extra parts to the install. I turned the power on and nothing. Checked the power wiring to see if it’s getting power and it sure is getting power. After checking all the power and installation several times, the unit is not powering on. I returned the unit for a replacement and the exact same thing happened again, the 2nd unit is not powering on either. I’ve had two of theses units in a matter of days apart and they’re both are not powering on. You can see both units from my two pictures. I changed up the location of the spin down filter on the 2nd installation. After confirming the unit circuit board is getting the power I’m left to think it’s a Quality Control issue at the factory. This is so disappointing.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
2/10
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Ужасно
Purchased this for a new installation.
After getting electrics all updated to install, the unit did not work. We called the manufacturer and they had never seen the issue before but noted they have had issues with this unit due to manufacturing defaults with the control modules. The unit also smelled moldy when we opened the box so think it was not new but refurbished. As we had to have the electrics done before installing the 30day return period ran out before we installed and now we can’t return the faulty unit. Big waste of money with no proper after sales support.
After getting electrics all updated to install, the unit did not work. We called the manufacturer and they had never seen the issue before but noted they have had issues with this unit due to manufacturing defaults with the control modules. The unit also smelled moldy when we opened the box so think it was not new but refurbished. As we had to have the electrics done before installing the 30day return period ran out before we installed and now we can’t return the faulty unit. Big waste of money with no proper after sales support.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
8/10
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Хорошо
Works great for me, but recently had to order a new part after it's very first year: the flow sensor. The flow sensor contains a small, completely plastic turbine inside that apparently wears down over time (I have very soft, no sediment city water). When this happens it does not stay seated as it should and tolerances are so low in the design of this part that small imperfections render it unable to spin. If it cannot spin then the heater does not detect any water flow and you are left with unheated water. Fortunately the part is easy to replace so I'm buying two and would recommend that everyone buys an extra to keep on hand.
There is no excuses for this, the manufacturer SHOULD have made the turbine, or at least the pin that the turbine is attached to, out of metal so that it cannot wear down over time. Also, while it is designed to be opened up for repairs/cleaning, it is VERY difficult to get it back together perfectly due to how the O-ring is positioned inside. Another poor design.
There is no excuses for this, the manufacturer SHOULD have made the turbine, or at least the pin that the turbine is attached to, out of metal so that it cannot wear down over time. Also, while it is designed to be opened up for repairs/cleaning, it is VERY difficult to get it back together perfectly due to how the O-ring is positioned inside. Another poor design.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
I love this water heater! The temp outside is currently three degrees, but this bad boy just keeps pumping out water at consistent temperature. There are NO cold spots in the line, as was the case and more with the AO Smith heater of a similar build that I had before this one. That heater absolutely sucked! I ordered this one after the Smith died just one two months into service. I couldn't be happier with this model, however. Everything is easy to understand and the controls are foolproof. Also, it is built much, much better than other brands. Comparatively, the Stiebel Eltron weighs easily four or five times as much as the Smith of a similar design, because everything inside the Stiebel is metal and copper. The Smith was all plastic. Stick with this one. This is the perfect water heater. Perfect. I'd give it thirty stars if I could, just because of how much the Smith totally and completely sucked by comparison.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
I did a LOT of research on tankless before installing this one last weekend.
We live just north of Seattle and installed the 29 plus model for whole house use. The water inlet temp in my region is around 45 degrees F. This thing has no issues providing 114 degree water to my shower while on the 116 degree setting.
The water takes about the same time to start warming up as the old tank style heater as this unit was installed in the same spot. However, rather than a near instant change from cold to hot, it’s more gradual and adds a few more seconds of waiting for desired temp.
We are a family of four in a 3 bed 2 bath house, no issues with one person showering at a time. Some may have issues not being able to use two showers at the same time, not a problem here as water pressure would suffer also. I’ve removed flow regulators from the shower heads and faucets, this tankless can run full hot no problem.
Our house has no gas service, so replacing the 50 gallon water heater with this unit gave us our pantry back, so worth it.
I installed it when my electrician replaced my electrical panel, so I’m guessing it about $150 in wire and breakers, and a couple hours for an electrician to run the service (depending on your setup). You will need room in your panel, or install a sub panel.
It works right out of the box. Plumb it, wire it up, full with water (open the valves) and power it on. Set the temp and you’re done, that easy.
We live just north of Seattle and installed the 29 plus model for whole house use. The water inlet temp in my region is around 45 degrees F. This thing has no issues providing 114 degree water to my shower while on the 116 degree setting.
The water takes about the same time to start warming up as the old tank style heater as this unit was installed in the same spot. However, rather than a near instant change from cold to hot, it’s more gradual and adds a few more seconds of waiting for desired temp.
We are a family of four in a 3 bed 2 bath house, no issues with one person showering at a time. Some may have issues not being able to use two showers at the same time, not a problem here as water pressure would suffer also. I’ve removed flow regulators from the shower heads and faucets, this tankless can run full hot no problem.
Our house has no gas service, so replacing the 50 gallon water heater with this unit gave us our pantry back, so worth it.
I installed it when my electrician replaced my electrical panel, so I’m guessing it about $150 in wire and breakers, and a couple hours for an electrician to run the service (depending on your setup). You will need room in your panel, or install a sub panel.
It works right out of the box. Plumb it, wire it up, full with water (open the valves) and power it on. Set the temp and you’re done, that easy.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
Quite a large project for my tempra 24 plus. Required 100 amps. I used a 125 amp rated general electric box from home depot and 2x 50amp breakers. I struggled a lot on plumbing. I recommend the sharkbite water heater flex hoses you see in the pics to make plumbing way easier. No leaks in the box and it works amazing. I ran my shower as hot as I could stand and it only did 0.9gpm. Can easily do 2 showers simultaneous and much more. Only ran out when I opened up 4x faucets and a shower full blast hot 120 degrees and saw the flow start to reduce. I will never do that in real usage, so this unit is perfect for my 3 bed, 2.5 bath home. PS: I did an amazon warehouse open box deal and the unit had never been touched! Just a crappy box.
Скромный эксперт
13.10.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
My old tank thankfully died. With a household of 5, someone always got shafted with the lukewarm or cold shower. Then you had to wait the obligatory 45 minutes for the next shower. Screw that!
The installation is simple if you are inclined to do some simple plumbing and electrical work on your own. SharkBite fittings make modern plumbing so simple that it is like grown-up Legos. Otherwise, pay a professional.
I got the highest rated tank that my electrical box would sustain and now I can shower while the washing machine is running and don't even notice. Should someone else decide to shower at the same time, it does not matter.
My master bathroom has a nice big tub in it that we never used. The entire tank could only fill it up to barely cover our knees. On the first night after installing the tankless, we filled that sucker up and soaked for a luxurious hour.
Power consumption is down. Even though I probably take a 20% longer shower now, my energy bill is way down. The old tank was that inefficient. I think the gain is mostly due to the old tank slowly failing but my recent energy bills are the lowest they have ever been since moving into this house. Damn that old tank.
So is everything awesome? 95% yes. The one downside is that the old tank was constantly warming the water and so the water in the pipes was somewhat warm. So when I turned on the water in the upstairs bathroom it was warm within about 15-20 seconds. The tankless does not heat unless it is running, so all the water is cold in the pipes. This adds another 15-20 seconds to hot water showing up in the upstairs shower. So I turn it on, wait another 15 seconds longer than I used to and then have glorious, unending, unwavering hot water. That is my 5% gripe.
One more necessary addition is "3M Aqua-Pure Whole House Scale Inhibition Inline Water System AP430SS". This keeps the scale down. But wait! There is more! It also slowly removes existing scale. I had some buildup in my water kettle and since installing that kit, the scale has slowly disappeared. The shower heads are also clearing up. If you get the tankless water heater, get the scale inhibitor. It will save your heater and benefit everything else in your home too.
The installation is simple if you are inclined to do some simple plumbing and electrical work on your own. SharkBite fittings make modern plumbing so simple that it is like grown-up Legos. Otherwise, pay a professional.
I got the highest rated tank that my electrical box would sustain and now I can shower while the washing machine is running and don't even notice. Should someone else decide to shower at the same time, it does not matter.
My master bathroom has a nice big tub in it that we never used. The entire tank could only fill it up to barely cover our knees. On the first night after installing the tankless, we filled that sucker up and soaked for a luxurious hour.
Power consumption is down. Even though I probably take a 20% longer shower now, my energy bill is way down. The old tank was that inefficient. I think the gain is mostly due to the old tank slowly failing but my recent energy bills are the lowest they have ever been since moving into this house. Damn that old tank.
So is everything awesome? 95% yes. The one downside is that the old tank was constantly warming the water and so the water in the pipes was somewhat warm. So when I turned on the water in the upstairs bathroom it was warm within about 15-20 seconds. The tankless does not heat unless it is running, so all the water is cold in the pipes. This adds another 15-20 seconds to hot water showing up in the upstairs shower. So I turn it on, wait another 15 seconds longer than I used to and then have glorious, unending, unwavering hot water. That is my 5% gripe.
One more necessary addition is "3M Aqua-Pure Whole House Scale Inhibition Inline Water System AP430SS". This keeps the scale down. But wait! There is more! It also slowly removes existing scale. I had some buildup in my water kettle and since installing that kit, the scale has slowly disappeared. The shower heads are also clearing up. If you get the tankless water heater, get the scale inhibitor. It will save your heater and benefit everything else in your home too.
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