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My choices boiled down to the Sony SACS9, Klipsch R-10SW, Polk Audio PSW10, and JBL Arena S10. The Klipsch was the first to be eliminated, based solely on budget reasons. If I had more money to spend, maybe I would have chosen it. Next to be eliminated was the popular Polk PSW10. It seemed to me to be the "plain Jane" of the group - a good solid performer, but nothing really outstanding.
So, the final choice boiled down to the Sony SACS9 or the JBL Arena S10. The Sony had the advantage of frequency range. The JBL had the advantage in crispness. Since my needs were broad - the speaker is being used not just for music but for AV multimedia purposes - I chose the more versatile Sony. If I had been purchasing the speaker solely for music, I would have chosen the JBL. Of course, the fact that the Sony's were on sale for $20 less than the JBL certainly swayed my decision some.
The Sony SACS9 was delivered to my home late last week and I added it to my 5.1 system, which includes an Onkyo TX-NR656 receiver, a pair of Sony SSCS5 bookshelf speakers, and a Sony SSCS8 center channel speaker. I'm awaiting shipment of a pair of JBL Arena B15 bookshelf speakers. So far, I'm very happy with how all the components of the system match. They not only work well together acoustically, but they also fit the rather tight confines of the room that I'm using (a converted patio, 8' x 20'). The Sony SACS9 happened to be the smallest of the 4 subwoofers that I was comparing by about 23%. That's given me more options as to where I want it placed and positioned.
Performance-wise, the SACS9 sounds great to me. It fills out the bass and sub-bass spectra that would otherwise be missing from my system. And it's plenty loud for my setup. I'm still playing around with the bass volume control, frequency pass-through/cut-off level, speaker balance control, speaker direction, and speaker location. There's plenty of capacity and flexibility built into the speaker to satisfy its listeners.
I spent a total of $603 for my 5.1 AV sound system, including the receiver and speakers; plus an additional $48 for speaker wire, banana plugs, and speaker mounting hardware. It's the best system that I could put together within my budget. It fulfills all of my present needs. Hopefully, it is sufficiently "future-proofed" so that it will continue to pay dividends for years to come.



You have to Play Blu-ray Disc on Blu-ray player with Dolby Atmos compatibility to notice the actual Dolby Atmos sound. I don’t think Streaming services YouTube or Netflix offer Dolby Atmos movies/TV shows at the time of the review, please check.
The Speaker is Sturdy. Comes with rubber feet which holds the speaker in place on top of floor standers. I’m using 14 gauge wire approx 20 feet to power them.
The Rubber feet are sturdy and you don’t have to worry about Speaker falling off. The top of my speaker is a Piano gloss, so it holds pretty tight.

I carefully treat the butyl black surrounds with ArmorAll or Nova leather and vinyl cleaner, using a Q-tip. This prevents deterioration and keeps them like new for decades, in my experience.

While the price is very reasonable (<$120/pair), they did not cut corners on the design. The cabinets are solid, they have a flared bass port on the rear, a solid set of binding posts. Inside is a proper crossover network (not just a capacitor on the tweeter like some cheap speakers) and foam damping material. You've got a lightweight, yet rigid woofer made out of their proprietary "foamed mica" composite material. The tweeter and super-tweeter (something, I might add, you usually only find on esoteric high-end gear) are both soft domes, which are known for their "natural" sound.
I happened upon these one day while perusing through a Best Buy. As soon as I saw their design, I knew needed to give them a listen. The sound was even more impressive than their design suggested! Standing between them, they cast a lucid sound stage! I heard elements in the mix coming from behind the speakers, elements in front of the speakers. The treble was clean and articulate, the midrange was smooth and un-cluttered and the bass was solid and pure! I was hearing all the artifacts of the low bitrate MP3 demo tracks. I compared them with the Klipsch models (which were kinda honky and etched by comparison), the Pioneers (which were somewhat veiled) and whatever else was in the display. The Sony SSCS5s and the SSCS3 absolutely mopped the floor with the rest. Nothing even came close. Sure, I'd heard that kind of sound... just not in an "entry level" priced unit.
For over a year now, they've been my main stereo speakers, powered by a Denon AVR-3803. Movies, TV and digital recording all sound great. But they're really cook with gas when I play vinyl on my turntable with an Audio Technica AT-440MLb cartridge. I've used these in two other systems (one for my housemate, another for my parents) and they've all been very impressed.
I do have them paired with a subwoofer, however they have enough bass that (within a few feet of the wall or on the floor) they really can stand on their own for most music. While they do sound good off axis, you really really really owe it to yourself to get the super-tweeters up at exactly ear level and aim them directly at your listening position. Only then will you experience the true magic of the soundstage these things create. I can sit in from of them and listen to the music, not the speaker.
Forget whatever other speakers you're considering. Or at least compare them side-by side with these and return the ones you don't like. I've heard better speakers, sure. But the "better speaker" I've heard cost a heck of a lot more (like $1,500+/pair).

EDIT: After about a month of daily use I have found the bass seems to have improved quite a bit. I can now whole heartedly recommend using these without a sub.

So far the speakers have been doing excellent in this setup because although the Sony's are not necessarily designed for superbass heads, my 580's, 525C, and subwoofer make child's play of creating all of the necessary bass for a very exciting musical performance.
These Sony SSCS5's have surprisingly turned out to be far better than what I had initially expected. They sound of a higher quality and provide superb clarity especially in the mid range and in the highs. They're perfect for audiophiles, jazz lovers, and those who love immersive vocals or R&B.
In my opinion I feel that no one can go wrong with making this purchase. With a price range so low and quality so high I can't see why anyone would have any issues, or furthermore any complaints about these phenomenal speakers. I have neither. Thanks Sony.


The difference is that the experience is like being in a sound bubble with objects that can be tracked in space through sound. It's subtle in some ways but not subtle. It feels like I'm in the environment of the movie. That's what it should sound like when the set up is correct. Without atmos you only get peripheral sound effects like you get an idea of the transition of objects in space from front to back, left to right, but no depth to the details of the location of the sound. With atmos and proper tweaking I am now getting that depth. It will vary greatly depending on your setup and situation. Everyone will have varying experiences with atmos and it may take some tweaking to get the most out of it.
Original review:
Bought it at less than 100 when it was on sale. Its a great addition to my 5.1 setup now making it 5.1.2. Overall I do hear a subtle difference in that when compared to traditional surround sound it also subtley increases the soundstage to be more enveloping from above. Definitely not very noticeable but it makes a difference to me.
These speakers aren't going to wow you in that you will now suddenly be able to pin point where an object is flying above you, you probably won't get that from just having them sit on your front tower speakers. I wish I could say these did that but it doesn't, but they do what they're supposed to do which is increase soundstage as a lesser substitute for in-celing speakers for a reasonable price and without the hassle.
I use this with Atmos enabled movies, most of the time I also use the upmix to atmos even with other non-atmos media. I'm using a yamaha rx-v683 receiver. These speakers sit on top of my two front tower speakers.
I would say that the only thing i don't like about them is the lack of banana plug support. It connects with bare wire using clips like the cheaper systems that do not expect large copper wires.
I haven't tested the audio range with these, but without in-ceiling speakers I don't expect full range sound to bounce from the ceiling. Bass and lower mid ranges still come from the other speakers mainly, and the atmos speakers only add atmospheric backgrounds that are usually more apparent when the sounds are higher frequency and very loud. I also wish it came with adjustable angled feet so I could adjust the angle of the speakers facing the ceiling.

Previously I repurposed my old home theater in a box Yamaha speakers for up firing. They did an ok job but the speakers being 6-8 years old, they weren't of the best quality, but did it's job for the few months I used them.
The sound quality is great and these Atmos certified speakers make all the difference. Now just go through and re-watch all my 4k movies. Plus a have 7 more coming from the Black Friday sale.
Definitely happy with my purchase. Highly recommend these!!!

Just to be clear though - these speakers are not super loud. The are plenty loud to fill a big room, but if I wanted to play drums along with the music I would need more volume. Of course, doing stupid things like that is why my hearing is shot...

I had zero issues hooking the system up and "zero" issues with the performance they provided.
I was truly amazed at how good this system sounded. I would...and will....give each of these products, a "Five Star" rating.
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To my ears, the Sonys aren't much better than the Micca MB42x. They both have slightly elevated treble, and are rather thin and one-note sounding in their presentation. Not a lot of depth or punch.
The BS22s however, you really "feel" the music. The soundstage is very open, and everything sounds larger even though the woofers are only 4" compared to the 5-1/4" SSCS5s. There is depth and a musicality that just can't be matched by the Sonys, and it's apparent right away. It's like they almost disappear and you're just left with the music. Most speakers in this price range are going to sound similar to the SSCS5/MB42x, not many if any are going to sound like the Pioneers.
I must have switched back and forth 200-300 times comparing the two, trying to convince myself that the Sonys were better than they were. I got them at $73 and the BS22s at $99, so I really wanted to like the SSCS5s.
It was always obvious which speaker was superior though - not once did I say "oh, the Sonys really sound better here". That's not to say these are bad speakers, but I don't think they're worth much more than $73, the sale price. The Pioneers however I'd be willing to pay their retail price and a bit more. If you're really on a budget, you could be satisfied with these ~$73, especially if you're only concerned about watching movies. But if you are willing to pay $20 more for the Pioneers when they're on sale (or even at $129), I'd recommend it.
Just remember to set the BS22s up properly: ~6 feet apart, toed in toward the listener, ear level, grills off. Also make sure they're properly amped.
The SSCS5s are decent and cheap enough that I decided to use my old receiver with them at my computer. I'd probably prefer them over the MB42X slightly, but that's about it.
With a budget sub like the Dayton SUB-1200 properly placed (subwoofer crawl) along with the BS22s, you'll have a system that sounds very nice and hits above its weight class - trust me on that. It used to be that headphones were a cheaper investment than speakers and you could get a better sound for less, but this set up edges out my HE-500/Bifrost/Asgard 2 and it's actually cheaper. Didn't think that was possible.


Placement of these Sony speakers dramatically affects the quality of their sound which may explain some of the poor reviews for them. The cabinets for these speakers is a ducted port bass-reflex design which opens to the rear and needs rear space to breathe. Placing these speakers on bookshelves and/or tightly against a wall greatly limits their performance. I found that positioning these speakers on a hardwood floor about eight or nine inches from the rear wall and six feet apart gave me the best results for a listening distance of nine feet.
In summary, these speakers, when placed/positioned optimally, sound much larger than they are and produce a smooth, pleasant range of sounds throughout all but the lowest bass frequencies, which I ultimately supplemented by installing a sub-woofer and surround-sound speakers for a great-sounding full-range home theater system.

1) I wish the SACS9 had binding posts that would accept banana plugs, instead of spring-clip terminals.
2) I wish the SACS9 had an autopower function that actually worked correctly. (Mine stays on for about three minutes after turning off my amp, and refuses to come back on when I turn my amp on, later - so I'm having to turn it on and off manually.)
3) But I absolutely LOVE this subwoofer, otherwise. It's crossover network is doing a great job of passing the higher frequencies to my Definitive Technology SM45 bookshelf speakers (https://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-SM45-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B005XXMMG4/), without degrading the signal in any way and by offloading the heavy work of driving the lower frequencies to the Sony's 10-inch driver, my SM45s are faster and more accurate in the mids and highs, than they were when they were trying to handle the lows.
4) The Sony SACS9 has terrific speed and pitch discernment - it's not in the least bit "honky" at any particular bass frequency. Recordings having a lot of content down in the low frequencies really sound musical, rather than simply percussive, as is so often the case with poor bass handling.
For the record, my DAC is a Centrance DACmini CX taking a USB input from a Windows 10 machine playing 44.1kHz/16-bit FLACS streamed from Tidal HiFi or 96kHz/24-bit FLACs played with Foobar2000.
The DACmini feeds a TBI Millenia MG3 Class BD Integrated Amplfier, that is now connected to the SACS9 via 12-guage stranded copper cables (nothing special) and from there, to the SM45 bookshelf speakers (in a near-field monitor setup, on either side of my PC). The SACS9 is sitting about 20 inches behind a 27-inch 4k display, with another six inches to the wall behind it - at the same height as the SM45s.
I'm really thrilled with the impact the Sony SACS9 has had on the sound - still enjoying a rediscovery of my favorite tunes.

I'm at a loss whether or not to keep these. I expected the speaker set to coordinate better but then again, it's hard to get high quality at this price range.

Pros:
Sale price under $100
Sufficient output for medium sized room
Shakes the walls in a good way
Compact size
Aesthetically good looking to me
Decent sound quality
Cons:
Sounds output drops around 35Hz
Controls on back seem cheaper than others
Not great for those seeking room to grow
I initially purchased this because of the price of $98. I honestly did not experience any of the negative aspects of this sub as some others have written. The main reason I may end up returning this item is because I bought another sub to compare it to, and the other sub looks and sounds better (albeit more expensive). The other sub retails for the same price as the SA-CS9 and I feel I'll be happier in the long run paying a bit more for a better looking/sounding product. For what this sub retails for, there are better options in my opinion. If you can find it on sale, then it might just be exactly what you are looking for.

Update 9-2-2019: I've got about 20+ hours on the Sony SSCS5 speakers, and continuing to be highly impressed with them. I;ve put them in my number 1 spot for music listening to see how they compare to my NHT SuperOne 2.1 speakers. To be hones I can't decide yet which speakers I like better. The Sony's definitely have a better soundstage, and are more sensitive to ambiance in music. I can't believe I've got a $73 pair of speakers that sound every bit as good or maybe even better than my other 8 pairs of speakers, some cost as much as $450. One thing that really amazes me is the big sound the Sony's put out while being a small and shallow box. Amazing speakers! The designer of these speakers must be some kind of audio genius. Now all I need is a pair of B&W badges to replace the Sony badges on the speaker grills, lol.



