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Сатурниан-4HVBD

11.12.2012

10/10

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Have owned my MMF 2.2 for 18 months now. I like it better all the time. Like a stylus it requires a break-in period.

What I like best about it:
1: The supplied cartridge is nice and neutral. It is easily the equal of a Shure M97 or equivalent. It is neither bright or dull and has very good bass response. Requires only a short break-in period to come alive. Also, it has been virtually indestructible in my klutzy hands.
2: The tonearm is a nice dual gimbaled design that has no friction that I can feel. It will track anything, as my warped Beatles reissues have proven. My example came perfectly aligned and produces absolutely no inner groove distortion. A very nice arm at this price point.
3: Very vibration resistant. No feedback at all.
4: Very nice downward cueing. Not too fast or too slow. No drift side to side.
5: No noise issues. No rumble, no hum, no clicks.
6: It looks awesome, if you are into the classy Spartan look. I know you can't hear that, but still nice.
7: Nice dustcover that can be removed easily when playing records. And reinstalls easily also.
8: Very easy to get level with the easily adjustable feet, and it stays level.
9: Decent quality cables and ground wire.
10: Very nice soundstage. Instruments and vocal are where they were meant to be.

What I don't like:
1: Fully manual, you are its servant, not the other way around.
2: Cheap looking and gritchy feeling on/off switch. But has presented no problems.
3: Wish the RCA cables detached in the rear instead of wired internally.
4: The standard felt mat is a joke. I bought a Pro-Ject IT cork mat from the UK, and could not be happier. It reduced static in the winter and improved the bass response. Did not increase bass, but made it more consistent.
5: Wall transformer power supply. But at least you can easily unplug it when not in use.
6: Up cueing need to be damped, it is a bit abrupt.

From my POV their is a lot more to like than dislike. And the Pro-Ject Debut III or Carbon equivalent would be very similar. If you buy any modern belt drive table and have speed issues, turn it on and let it spin for at least 24 hours to break in the bearing and then relube. Made a world of difference on mine and my friends Rega RP-1. But 99% of the time any speed issues could be traced back to the album being off center. In the past I have owned a BIC 960, Dual 1219 and still have a Technic's Linear track, and I enjoy this table more than any of those listed. It just sounds better overall. No glaring weaknesses.

Update: June 23, 2013

Have owned it now for 2 years. Still very impressed with the quality/value ratio. I have had zero problems with the table. Everything functions as new. Have used in the vicinity of 750 hours. I replaced the stylus with a Made in Japan by Nagaoka aftermarket replacement. It sounds even better than the original. Last December I gave myself a Christmas gift of the Pro-ject Speed Box S. It has made the table even better. It can now play my 45's without switching the belt to the larger pulley. Also it has enhanced the speed stability of the platter's rotation, as the reference voltage is now quartz locked. Think of it as a quartz-locked belt drive. I have seen no negatives to adding the Speed Box. If Music Hall ever updates this TT the only suggestion would be to add a end of record arm lift.

Update May 29, 2014

Have moved up a couple of steps in the turntable arena, so on Memorial Day I sold my MMF 2.2 to a new proud owner. After 3 years I still have only good things to say about this table. The Music Hall IMO is still the best new Turntable in this price range. Thanks Roy Hall for 3 great years of tunes, with zero problems.

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Лунатик-5VVVN

08.08.2015

8/10

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Very nice sound. Good quality turntable for the price. Very attractive.
Slightly inconvenient to change speed from 33rpm to 45rpm, but if you want to play albums predominantly this wil not be an issue for you.
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Квантум-2TTDG

11.01.2013

8/10

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When I received this today I was overjoyed. I had waited to upgrade for a long time. The reviews were great and I was really looking forward to hearing what everyone was talking about. I finally do it, go through the set-up process, which isn't hard, only to come to a screeching halt when I discover that the anti-skate weight is detached from it's support line. This support line is merely a piece of fishing line thinner than a human hair with a loop on one end and a stop tied to the other. This is supposed to thread through a microscopic hole at the top to ensure the weight hangs straight. After an enormous struggle, I finally manage to re-thread the weight only to lose my loop in the process, rendering the entire process impossible without fishing fly tying equipment. I am livid. To spend this much money only to have it come down to a .03 piece of fishing line is unimaginable. Who designed this? Who thought this was a good idea? At least use a slightly heavier gauge line and put stops at both ends to prevent this from occurring. I don't know how long I will have to wait for a replacement and in the meantime the house is silent since I don't have any digital equipment in my system. I might have more to say once I can actually get it working but for now I guess I can sit near the computer... lame.

UPDATE: I was able, with a magnifying glass, tweezers and much patience, to successfully tie a new loop on the hair-thin filament after only a few hours. When I did get it on, it hung right in place. I tried out the table and I was amazed. It sounds so good. I put on some old DG Beethoven recordings, a new 180g reissue of Kraftwerk Computer World and a 90's pressing of Peter Gabriel's Passion lp. All were clean and rich. This is a quality machine and I know it will enhance my listening pleasure immensely for a long time. Four stars with the deduction for the trouble.

There are still a few what are in my book are design flaws- first is this filament. I know it's a weight issue but some kind of stop should be placed on both ends of the filament to prevent an accidental pull through like happened to me. I also don't understand how something that is seemingly so well engineered could be rendered useless by such a flimsy mechanism. I don't know if heavier gauge line would help but it probably couldn't be threaded through the upper opening anyway. This is my first hanging weight anti-skate and it just seems very vulnerable. Second is the fact that in order to change speeds from 33 to 45, one must remove the platter and slip the belt around the 45 speed capstan from the 33 one. This seems unnecessarily complicated just to play some 45's. I don't propose to have a solution here but it was not a feature that is spoken of in the literature. The description of "2 Speed TT" implies it will run at both speeds easily. This makes it hard, especially if you want to switch back and forth so I will probably keep my old Pioneer PL-500 hooked up to play different speed records. Lastly as one other reviewer mentioned, the felt mat is a joke. Why they cheap out here I don't know when they manufacture a perfectly good cork mat (albeit a 50.00 one).
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Интеллектор-1RTNK

12.12.2014

2/10

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I wanted to like this table but........I guess you really need to spend over a grand to get real quality. As soon as I dropped the tone arm on a record I knew I was in trouble. Motor noise. Oh no. Then as I was watching the platter I noticed it wobbled! The sub platter too. Can't live with that. Dust cover seems really low quality too. Sound was just ok. Back it goes. VPI traveler maybe.
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Супернова-1IDMJ

27.03.2011

10/10

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I usually try to reserve the term 'Awesome' in regards to our Highest Power, as it should be! But this Music Hall MMF2.2le Turntable is such a gas gas gas
that I, at risk of offending 'The Man', will attempt to use it here. This Absolutely Beautiful Creature is such a damned Bargain right out of the box that
it's not even funny. No wonder Music Hall can't make enough of them, even in a global recession! The 'Tracker' Cartridge, virgin and new out of the box absolutely kicked my A** with the fidelity it was pulling out of vinyl. If you've been reading alot of turntable reviews you might know me from the review I did on the Audio Technica ATLP120-USB That I bought on Amazon a couple of years ago. Well, that turntable far exceeded my expectations and I had a lot of fun with it. That being said, when I was done with my 78 project I decided to try one of these 'New Generation' Turntables-at a lot more $ than I've previously shelled out on turntables, which back in the day might have been a whoppin $125 MAX! So is shelling out $500 for this 'Entry Level' Audiophile Turntable worth it? In one word....YES. Even though, compared to the mighty old 'classics', the MMF2.2le and regular edition MMF2.2, might at first seem like we're going backwards, heck, where is the 'S' shaped tonearm, where is the fully automatic or semi automatic features so I don't have to get off my arse and shut the player down, but what we actually have here is the art and science of vinyl reproduction settling into what it should be-if taken seriously. The lesson is: if you want CONVENIENCE, then stick with cd's or mp3's. But if you instead think/like the way music is reproduced on the vinyl format, then you'll just have to re-jig your thinking just a little bit here. Roy Hall, who runs Music Hall, is a cool dude, and he's also really into music. His company did studies and found that adding any 'auto' functions to a turntable also added to coloration/noise coming out of the needle. And I have to say with my personal experience that this is true. Even with high end Pioneer turntables of the day (PL550 etc/Marantz/Denon) I did hear a 'thumping' noise as the needle was getting closer to the center label, the 'tripping' mechanism for the automatic lifter interfering with the tonearm and it DID make noise out of the speakers! So his decision early on was to concentrate on turntables that just PLAYED MUSIC. So if manually changing a belt from one pulley point to another is a hassle, then these turntables are not for you. Again, a Great choice is the AudioTechnia ATLP120. It did those things at the push of a button. But we're dealing with a different level of listening to music here. And I for one, LIKE to interact with my audio equipment. Cd's have bored the hell out of me over the last 10 years with all the 'Loudness' mastering and such that last year, when I bought the new 2010 Sony Jimi Hendrix Vinyl issues (and the MCA's from a few years back), I WAS LITERALLY BLOWN AWAY BY WHAT WAS COMING OFF THE NEW VINYL! (sorry for the cap's but It's the only way to emphasize the point). Hence my enthusiasm for this 'new generation' table. But also, Roy Hall and his company have brought back the fun in this hobby because you can upgrade certain parts of the turntable if you want, and I want. I upgraded the stock platter to a stunning looking Acrylic platter that just makes this thing look like a million bucks! And also, if you don't want to manually change the belt to go from 33 to 45 rpm, you can buy a quartz locked outboard motor power supply (Cruise Control 2) that not only allows you to change speeds at the push of a button but also gives you pitch control for us who like to collect vinyl from the old hippie days that might have been mastered 'off speed', AND it controls the motor more precisely and even though the stock power supply was perfect, some say that the CC module makes the sound better. But the point is that this all brings the fun back into listening to records and that's what it's all about. So, I know that Pro-Ject and Rega both have a great name out in the market. But for ME, the Music Hall MMF gave me much more for the price than either the Pro-ject or Rega would. And being able to adjust the vertical tracking angle IS a useful tool if you want to go with another cartridge or the Acryl-It platter, and the low end Rega's don't give you that option. All in all, the MMF is worth the money and the sound you get out of it and the Tracker cartridge, is way beyond the older rigs I used to own. Is it the last turntable I'll own? Hell NO! LOL! I'm looking at going all out for my 55th birthday and getting the MMF 7.1 Turntable in the future. But I'll keep this Beautiful 2,2le as my 'go to' deck for the near future. I hope this helps anyone who's wondering if it's worth $500 to spend on this deck. Yes, it is!
Happy Listening and thank you Roy Hall and all at Music Hall & Pro-Ject.
Gerard Masters
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Лунатик-9XOTK

01.05.2014

10/10

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Nice turntable. I have not had a turntable in 20 years, so I am not sure how this stacks up against the competition, but it seems very nice. Aesthetically, it's beautiful. It has a shiny black piano finish. The counter weight, as you would expect, is adjustable on this unit (apparently, this is not the case for all players). There is nothing automatic about it either i.e. you don't push start to have the tone arm move and start playing, and it doesn't auto shut itself down when the album is done. The most annoying thing is that if you need to change the playback speed, you have to remove the plate and move the belt. The anti-skate system is weird, I have no idea how they do it on other systems. This one is a weight attached to a fishing line that hooks into the tone arm. Someone probably described it better than me some place else. The sound is amazing. I'm comparing it to MP3s and CDs, so maybe any turntable would sound better than that. Overall, happy with the purchase.
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Аэронавт-6BDSZ

27.04.2014

4/10

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I've been into LPs consistently since the Beatles released Rubber Soul (yes, I'm that old!) on my dad's McIntosh tube system. Well, just inherited said amp and had it rebuilt, and wanted to upgrade my direct-drive Sony to something closer to audiophile. I bought a used Music Hall 2.2 from an audiophile off of CraigsList for around $250 in mint condition. First off, I was surprised by the cheap build quality--thin metal internals, fishing line anti-skate, and MDF construction. Music quality was the most disappointing aspect as rumble is audible. Tapping the table that support the 2.2 results in significant audible noise. Maybe I am way too picky, seems like a piece of equipment that retails for this much would be better built and have better noise isolation! I will give it a 5 for looks, a 3 for functionality (it's a manual), and a 1 for build quality and a 1 for performance. I guess I should have gone for a much higher-level....$600-1,000 to get reasonable quality is shocking!
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Пандорец-4GMPP

26.04.2014

10/10

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I got this baby yesterday and set it up in about an hour and a half (But 30 of those minutes were spent trying to find a level). My previous player was a Pioneer PL-990 and I've never setup a record player with a counterweight or anti-skating. The instruction manual was clear and easy to follow, and, surprisingly, I found setting the player up extremely easy. This player is absolutely an improvement in sound. You can hear more details while hearing the primary vocals and instruments more vividly. The looks of the Music Hall MMF 2.2LE are spectacular. It's sleek and shiny, and the arm is a piece of art.

The thing I improved right away was the felt platter mat, which appeared pretty cheap-looking to me. I replaced it with a Music Hall cork board platter mat.
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НоваГость-0IBKJ

14.03.2014

6/10

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Pros: The table, once properly set up, sounds great for the price even with the stock cartridge. Follow the guides that come with the system and supplement that with a few youtube videos and you'll have a great sounding table.

Cons: I found the anti-skate weight included to be too heavy. I ended up creating my own with about 1/2 the weight of the included weight to get a more even sound and less swinging of the tone arm every time it was lifted from the platter. I've also had intermittent issues raising the tone arm and having it kind of stick. I've seen other individuals with this issue on vinyl forums and have contacted the manufacturer about this issue but have never received a response.

With the issues with the tone arm and the lack of response from the manufacturer, I would probably recommend checking out the pro-ject debut carbon for a table in this price range.
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Плазмоид-6EKAI

17.06.2014

10/10

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Plays my record flawlessly without any problems so far. The Setup was pretty easy for anyone who has had a record player before and a decent price for a great player i recommend to anyone.
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Странник-3DLHF

13.05.2014

10/10

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Absolutely the best entry audiophile turntable !!!!! Was amazed at the sound quality and performance 10 stars! So happy I went to the mmf over the marantz
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Синтрон-0YIHS

01.09.2013

8/10

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I have owned this particular TT for about 5 years. A couple of years ago the motor died and I had it replaced. Recently I took it for service and they said it was only outputting in one channel. I guess, I didn't notice, go figure. Anyways, they had to re-solder some of the connections. I upgraded the cart to a Grado Gold 1 a few years ago. Sounds nice to my ears. Especially when both channels are working. You can do better at this price point, though. I would recommend the Rega RP-1 for the money. It is a better built TT. The music hall is just sourced out from Pro-Ject and even says Pro-Ject on the arm. There is nothing wrong with the Pro-Ject, it's just that the Rega is better. They didn't have that particular model when I bought my TT. Wasn't much choice at the time. When I upgrade a few years from now I will get an RP-3.
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Аэронавт-2RYXP

25.05.2013

10/10

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I put on a old record I got of Ebay for .99 cents. It started playing Kay Starr's - Wheel Of Fortune when the roulette wheel started I actual turned around because I thought some kid was running with a stick though my wood fence.

The sound was amazing and made we understand what we have lost in the digital age some times you
just got to get back to good old basics

Was easy to set up looks very nice in Red. Treat yourself to this if you love music and don't want to break the bank
this is it.
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НаноПилигрим-7SXYN

27.08.2013

6/10

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I did not know that it operated on d.c. current..however this does make the unit shallower/smaller...it is compact.
The output cable is too short...generally the unit is o.k.
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Вояджер-7NFBA

31.03.2013

8/10

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I knew what I was getting when I bought this baby. All of the reviews on the World Wide Web rated the 2.2 very high for sound quality and looks. I bought one for a good friend last year and had plenty of time to hear it and see what all the reviews had been talking about. My very own 2.2 sits in my apt waiting to be played daily. The only beef is that the set up instructions could be better and more detailed. There is a YouTube video for one of their higher price units that did help with the set up.

Do yourself a favor and buy one. You won't regret it.
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Квазар-2FKZN

02.07.2013

8/10

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For an re-entry into vinyl this is a very nice turntable, set up fairly simple, sounds and looks good with a reasonable price point. Very simple on off, have to move the belt to switch from 33.3/3 to 45 is a little cumbersome.
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Астрономад-7TPTL

12.01.2013

2/10

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Well, it is beautiful... I will give it that. I guess that is worthy of a 1 out of 5. If amazon gave me a choice though, I would have given it I a zero! I got to step six on its assembly (placing the counterweight on the tone arm). Not only does it not even come close to fitting, trying to "screw the counterweight on counter-clockwise", resulted in breaking off the rear portion of the tone arm. What a pile of $500 garbage! It is, literally, useless to me now and will be making its way into my dumpster in a few minutes... I should have known better than to stray from my good luck with the Rega RP-1... Avoid this s***pile at all costs!
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Гравитон-8KULI

05.02.2013

8/10

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So, i'm new to the whole turntable scene.
I started with a cheap old sanyo table and moving to this one was great!
There is a bit of static problems with the felt pad for the platter.

Easy set up but follow the instructions!
I can't compare this to other similar tables but in my research i concluded that this table was right for me. I can't image other tables in this price range sound much different. I chose this one because i like the look (it's sexy) and it can be upgraded to an extent.

Good starter table!
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Туманник-2CSFE

23.02.2013

10/10

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This turntable has three great virtues.
Elegant clean lines in design.
Smooth efficient operation.
Simple uncomplicated mechanical design. As a mechanical engineer I appreciate this.

The assembly instructions were clear and setup was no problem.
One thing to note. The parts list indicates that the turntable has four feet.
There are actually three. This is actually good design. Three feet are stable.
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Пульсар-6VDYV

23.03.2013

10/10

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Well this took at least 30 minutes to set up but was well worth it. It's a precise instrument that produces fantastic sound. I'm not an audiophile; but I create films and know good audio when I hear it.
I'm also a fan of the minimalist design. It's definitely a piece you'll want to display wherever you play your vinyl.
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Супернова-1LUYN

16.03.2011

10/10

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I know a little about turntables. I am 58 and had one from the time I started loving music (about 10 years old) until the new CD format came out. For the lasst 30 years I have not really used a table though. I have owned about every consumer brand from the 60's and 70's from Zenith, Garrard, Dual, Sony, and I finally endied up with a Luxman when everything went digital. I have heard all the recent talk about analog playback, and over the last ten years or so, I have gone back and bought many old tube amps (Fisher, Dynaco, Marantz, and Harman Kardon) I am a firm believer in analog gear. But I didn't have a turntable. The Louxman went crazy and the motor spins like crazy....so I started studying turntables. I really wanted a Rega, but after reading about the subject quality of the RP1 I looked at Pro-Ject and Music Hall. I had read somewhere that Pro-Ject made the table for Music Hall, but I found a factory refurbished MMF-2.2 at Needle Doctor for $360.00 complete with Goldring cartridge (Music Hall Tracker). At this price, I had to jump in. I figured that if this was not enough table for me, I could always sell it, and get all my money back and then step up to the Rega P3, for $895 plus cartridge.

I am pretty much thrilled. I think the build quality is amazing. The piano balck finish is beautiful. The arm is pretty awesome. the motor ultra quiet. I did upgrade the platter to the Acryl-It Platter, mainly because I had heard negative things about the platter and slipmat shipped with the MMF. Plus it looks ultra cool. The music just flows from this little jem. I have an Audio Technica AT120E to upgrade the cartridge at a latter date (it used to be my favorite 30 years ago).

I really can't thnk of any downside to the table at all. It came set up with the proper settings for the turntable, and has a few tools to help in setting a new cartridge. The instructions are well written, and you can definately tell the difference in a good recording and a great one.

For the money, I don't think you can buy a better table. I wonder if a blind test using the same downstream components, and the same cartridge would be noticable? I just don't know, and any improvements must be incremental. I don't think paying three times as much for a turntable is going to make it sound three times better. Plus this is like tube amp, where tweaking and tube rolling make a difference. It's just fun to own. Unlike the modern, sterile CD Players and solid state amps..

Buy this sweet little turntable and you won't be disappointed. It is sweet, and has many tweaks which can be done to improve it's sound. Or you can always sell it and get your money back. You never see these on the Bay for sale at all. Highly Recommended.....AAA+++
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Пандорец-7IPZA

21.03.2013

10/10

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Best turn table I ever had. The whole concept is very different : only 3 legs on a bottom no autostop, no lighting on a front panel only one button so bravo very well done
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Астероид-7ZCGC

08.03.2011

2/10

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I bought one of these earlier this month and though it looked nice and was easy to set up the actual quality of the turntable is terrible. I read online that Music Hall had quality control issues but I dismissed the claims because of the specs that this TT has but once I got mine in the mail I realized that I was another sucker fooled. The platter wobbles, the tone arm wasn't good (very light and wasn't even a music hall tone arm, it said Pro-Ject on it!), the anti skate was flimsy and the tone arm rest was cheap plastic that would let the tonearm loose with any slight brush against it. The cartridge that is on it does sound good and the motor is extremely silent, I will give Music Hall that but what is the point of a good motor and cart with a bad sup platter/platter/tonearm. Over all I would not recommend buying one of these. I hear good things about the model above this but there is too many cut corners on the 2.2.
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КиберНаблюдатель-7WKCO

10.03.2011

10/10

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First off, I know little about turntables. This is my first one, so I'll keep my review brief. For reference, I am using this turntable with a TC-750 preamp, playing through Logitech z5500 speakers.

Though I can't really compare this turntable to others, I will say that I absolutely love it! It is both beautiful and easy to use. Set-up took no more than 20 mins, and I was being meticulous. It runs smoothly and quietly, and most important of all it sounds great! As the one-star reviewer before me noted, the tone-arm is by Pro-ject. I've had none of his/her issues, however. The platter operates without wobbles, and I don't find the tone-arm rest or the anti-skating weight to be flimsy..

In short, I'm very satisfied with my purchase. I expect to get many years of use from this turntable.
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