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и продавец был очень отзывчивый. Был низкий гул после монтажа поворотной платформы так называемый продавец, чтобы выяснить, я не снимал двигатель доставка винты, которые исправили проблему.
I got the Music Hall pre-amp to go with it, and I got the Pro-Ject cork mat for it.
I would not advise anyone to do what one of the reviewers did, which is to bend the wire hanger for the anti-skating weight. It really is a matter of the fishing line having a twist to it from its being tied, and if it wants to jump off the little notched pin, then just turn it over so you get a 180 degree reversal on the loop twist, hopefully being more complaint with the angle of the pin. Once you get it on there and it will stay, then it will adjust itself naturally over time to where it will stay put even while moving the unit around quite vigorously.
As for setting it up, there is a procedure described in the instructions to get the counterweight for the tone arm balanced, and if you are very careful, you can get it pretty well dialed in. But how would I know that? Well, I bought a 20 gram electronic scale, and I weighed it. I measured exactly how high above the main body of the turntable the needle sits on the record, then took the platter off and got the scale at that height, sitting on the body where the needle would be playing the beginning of an LP. It was really close to the recommended weight for that cartridge. But to get it exactly, of course you really need to use a scale, in my opinion. There was a device that came with the turntable that is a sort of balance scale but to me it was hard to use and it gives you numbers like what are on the weight part that you turn to set the balance, rather than actual grams.
I have had my turntable for about 2 months and am very happy with how it has performed, tracking some kind-of bad records without jumping the groove or anything.
It is so much fun breaking out the old LPs
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What I like best about it:
1: The supplied cartridge is nice and neutral. It is easily the equal of a Shure M97 or equivalent. It is neither bright or dull and has very good bass response. Requires only a short break-in period to come alive. Also, it has been virtually indestructible in my klutzy hands.
2: The tonearm is a nice dual gimbaled design that has no friction that I can feel. It will track anything, as my warped Beatles reissues have proven. My example came perfectly aligned and produces absolutely no inner groove distortion. A very nice arm at this price point.
3: Very vibration resistant. No feedback at all.
4: Very nice downward cueing. Not too fast or too slow. No drift side to side.
5: No noise issues. No rumble, no hum, no clicks.
6: It looks awesome, if you are into the classy Spartan look. I know you can't hear that, but still nice.
7: Nice dustcover that can be removed easily when playing records. And reinstalls easily also.
8: Very easy to get level with the easily adjustable feet, and it stays level.
9: Decent quality cables and ground wire.
10: Very nice soundstage. Instruments and vocal are where they were meant to be.
What I don't like:
1: Fully manual, you are its servant, not the other way around.
2: Cheap looking and gritchy feeling on/off switch. But has presented no problems.
3: Wish the RCA cables detached in the rear instead of wired internally.
4: The standard felt mat is a joke. I bought a Pro-Ject IT cork mat from the UK, and could not be happier. It reduced static in the winter and improved the bass response. Did not increase bass, but made it more consistent.
5: Wall transformer power supply. But at least you can easily unplug it when not in use.
6: Up cueing need to be damped, it is a bit abrupt.
From my POV their is a lot more to like than dislike. And the Pro-Ject Debut III or Carbon equivalent would be very similar. If you buy any modern belt drive table and have speed issues, turn it on and let it spin for at least 24 hours to break in the bearing and then relube. Made a world of difference on mine and my friends Rega RP-1. But 99% of the time any speed issues could be traced back to the album being off center. In the past I have owned a BIC 960, Dual 1219 and still have a Technic's Linear track, and I enjoy this table more than any of those listed. It just sounds better overall. No glaring weaknesses.
Update: June 23, 2013
Have owned it now for 2 years. Still very impressed with the quality/value ratio. I have had zero problems with the table. Everything functions as new. Have used in the vicinity of 750 hours. I replaced the stylus with a Made in Japan by Nagaoka aftermarket replacement. It sounds even better than the original. Last December I gave myself a Christmas gift of the Pro-ject Speed Box S. It has made the table even better. It can now play my 45's without switching the belt to the larger pulley. Also it has enhanced the speed stability of the platter's rotation, as the reference voltage is now quartz locked. Think of it as a quartz-locked belt drive. I have seen no negatives to adding the Speed Box. If Music Hall ever updates this TT the only suggestion would be to add a end of record arm lift.
Update May 29, 2014
Have moved up a couple of steps in the turntable arena, so on Memorial Day I sold my MMF 2.2 to a new proud owner. After 3 years I still have only good things to say about this table. The Music Hall IMO is still the best new Turntable in this price range. Thanks Roy Hall for 3 great years of tunes, with zero problems.
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Slightly inconvenient to change speed from 33rpm to 45rpm, but if you want to play albums predominantly this wil not be an issue for you.
UPDATE: I was able, with a magnifying glass, tweezers and much patience, to successfully tie a new loop on the hair-thin filament after only a few hours. When I did get it on, it hung right in place. I tried out the table and I was amazed. It sounds so good. I put on some old DG Beethoven recordings, a new 180g reissue of Kraftwerk Computer World and a 90's pressing of Peter Gabriel's Passion lp. All were clean and rich. This is a quality machine and I know it will enhance my listening pleasure immensely for a long time. Four stars with the deduction for the trouble.
There are still a few what are in my book are design flaws- first is this filament. I know it's a weight issue but some kind of stop should be placed on both ends of the filament to prevent an accidental pull through like happened to me. I also don't understand how something that is seemingly so well engineered could be rendered useless by such a flimsy mechanism. I don't know if heavier gauge line would help but it probably couldn't be threaded through the upper opening anyway. This is my first hanging weight anti-skate and it just seems very vulnerable. Second is the fact that in order to change speeds from 33 to 45, one must remove the platter and slip the belt around the 45 speed capstan from the 33 one. This seems unnecessarily complicated just to play some 45's. I don't propose to have a solution here but it was not a feature that is spoken of in the literature. The description of "2 Speed TT" implies it will run at both speeds easily. This makes it hard, especially if you want to switch back and forth so I will probably keep my old Pioneer PL-500 hooked up to play different speed records. Lastly as one other reviewer mentioned, the felt mat is a joke. Why they cheap out here I don't know when they manufacture a perfectly good cork mat (albeit a 50.00 one).
that I, at risk of offending 'The Man', will attempt to use it here. This Absolutely Beautiful Creature is such a damned Bargain right out of the box that
it's not even funny. No wonder Music Hall can't make enough of them, even in a global recession! The 'Tracker' Cartridge, virgin and new out of the box absolutely kicked my A** with the fidelity it was pulling out of vinyl. If you've been reading alot of turntable reviews you might know me from the review I did on the Audio Technica ATLP120-USB That I bought on Amazon a couple of years ago. Well, that turntable far exceeded my expectations and I had a lot of fun with it. That being said, when I was done with my 78 project I decided to try one of these 'New Generation' Turntables-at a lot more $ than I've previously shelled out on turntables, which back in the day might have been a whoppin $125 MAX! So is shelling out $500 for this 'Entry Level' Audiophile Turntable worth it? In one word....YES. Even though, compared to the mighty old 'classics', the MMF2.2le and regular edition MMF2.2, might at first seem like we're going backwards, heck, where is the 'S' shaped tonearm, where is the fully automatic or semi automatic features so I don't have to get off my arse and shut the player down, but what we actually have here is the art and science of vinyl reproduction settling into what it should be-if taken seriously. The lesson is: if you want CONVENIENCE, then stick with cd's or mp3's. But if you instead think/like the way music is reproduced on the vinyl format, then you'll just have to re-jig your thinking just a little bit here. Roy Hall, who runs Music Hall, is a cool dude, and he's also really into music. His company did studies and found that adding any 'auto' functions to a turntable also added to coloration/noise coming out of the needle. And I have to say with my personal experience that this is true. Even with high end Pioneer turntables of the day (PL550 etc/Marantz/Denon) I did hear a 'thumping' noise as the needle was getting closer to the center label, the 'tripping' mechanism for the automatic lifter interfering with the tonearm and it DID make noise out of the speakers! So his decision early on was to concentrate on turntables that just PLAYED MUSIC. So if manually changing a belt from one pulley point to another is a hassle, then these turntables are not for you. Again, a Great choice is the AudioTechnia ATLP120. It did those things at the push of a button. But we're dealing with a different level of listening to music here. And I for one, LIKE to interact with my audio equipment. Cd's have bored the hell out of me over the last 10 years with all the 'Loudness' mastering and such that last year, when I bought the new 2010 Sony Jimi Hendrix Vinyl issues (and the MCA's from a few years back), I WAS LITERALLY BLOWN AWAY BY WHAT WAS COMING OFF THE NEW VINYL! (sorry for the cap's but It's the only way to emphasize the point). Hence my enthusiasm for this 'new generation' table. But also, Roy Hall and his company have brought back the fun in this hobby because you can upgrade certain parts of the turntable if you want, and I want. I upgraded the stock platter to a stunning looking Acrylic platter that just makes this thing look like a million bucks! And also, if you don't want to manually change the belt to go from 33 to 45 rpm, you can buy a quartz locked outboard motor power supply (Cruise Control 2) that not only allows you to change speeds at the push of a button but also gives you pitch control for us who like to collect vinyl from the old hippie days that might have been mastered 'off speed', AND it controls the motor more precisely and even though the stock power supply was perfect, some say that the CC module makes the sound better. But the point is that this all brings the fun back into listening to records and that's what it's all about. So, I know that Pro-Ject and Rega both have a great name out in the market. But for ME, the Music Hall MMF gave me much more for the price than either the Pro-ject or Rega would. And being able to adjust the vertical tracking angle IS a useful tool if you want to go with another cartridge or the Acryl-It platter, and the low end Rega's don't give you that option. All in all, the MMF is worth the money and the sound you get out of it and the Tracker cartridge, is way beyond the older rigs I used to own. Is it the last turntable I'll own? Hell NO! LOL! I'm looking at going all out for my 55th birthday and getting the MMF 7.1 Turntable in the future. But I'll keep this Beautiful 2,2le as my 'go to' deck for the near future. I hope this helps anyone who's wondering if it's worth $500 to spend on this deck. Yes, it is!
Happy Listening and thank you Roy Hall and all at Music Hall & Pro-Ject.
Gerard Masters
The thing I improved right away was the felt platter mat, which appeared pretty cheap-looking to me. I replaced it with a Music Hall cork board platter mat.
Cons: I found the anti-skate weight included to be too heavy. I ended up creating my own with about 1/2 the weight of the included weight to get a more even sound and less swinging of the tone arm every time it was lifted from the platter. I've also had intermittent issues raising the tone arm and having it kind of stick. I've seen other individuals with this issue on vinyl forums and have contacted the manufacturer about this issue but have never received a response.
With the issues with the tone arm and the lack of response from the manufacturer, I would probably recommend checking out the pro-ject debut carbon for a table in this price range.
The sound was amazing and made we understand what we have lost in the digital age some times you
just got to get back to good old basics
Was easy to set up looks very nice in Red. Treat yourself to this if you love music and don't want to break the bank
this is it.


 
            
           
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
            




 
                        