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I'm going to continue using it. The chains are at least cheap and the convenience is undeniable. But beware - it's easy to mistreat it.
Order extra chains. You may need them as you learn the limits of this machine.
Original review:
This is definitely a light duty tool as the bar and chain are thin bordering on delicate. I would not use it to cut a winter's worth of firewood or clear old growth timber. But for pruning, clearing out brush and saplings, it's just fine. Being able to simply pick it up and start cutting is a very great convenience.
As for problems other reviewers have reported: Yes, it 'leaks' bar oil. I've got four other chainsaws and they all exude bar oil to some degree. The oil collects on the bar and chain as it is supposed to during operation and then can slowly ooze down onto the underlying surface during storage. I just put down a couple layers of newspaper to absorb the oil.
Also, pressing the power switch enables the saw for about 60 seconds before timing out. This has not caused the slightest problem.
I read about all the complaints on the safety button features and actually found the feature a benefit for my type of use as there are usually younger kids around. I purchased a plastic chainsaw case (Husqvarna 24 Inch Chainsaw Hard Sided Storage and Transport Box Case) holds the saw, four batteries and a small container of oil and I am set to go for about a few hours of casual cutting. The saw also has a great balance and feel to it similar to the Stihl gas saw.
First thing I noticed was the torque and power from this thing is instant. None of the lag associated with gas powered engines. Second: it doesn't idle! Should be obvious but it never occurred to me how nice it would be to put the saw down between cuts, and not hear it, nor worry about it walking off some elevated surface I might have laid in down on. Battery life is good: I can get through more than enough cutting in a charge. By the time the batteries are dead, it's time to grab the axe and get to splitting anyway.
Love this thing. I was already invested in the LXT toolkit, so getting 4 5AH batteries with this saw is a no brainer. If you've already got a bunch of LXT tools and need a chainsaw, this is it. If you are not yet wed to any brand, then check Ryobi, Dewalt, etc and see if they carry the stuff you need. That's a different discussion all together, and probably has more to do with your favorite color than anything else.
As long as you're not mixing oil and gas, choking the carb, yanking a string several times and wondering wtf is wrong with your gas powered chain saw THIS time, you're better off!
My only suggestion is that Makita offer a storage bag or case with places for the saw, 2 spare batteries and a couple of quarts of chain oil.
*I LOVE THIS CHAINSAW*.
I watched *piles* of YouTube vids, with this and other saws, this one always seemed *quality*. And while I'll credit Milwaukee with having a stronger saw, I dunno it's that much stronger/they both get the job done. Makita's got less issues with thrown chains, oil leaks, etc, even, seemed more sturdy. I've only ever thrown my chain once using the Makita chainsaw, and that was doing stuff I shouldn't have been doing.
I did hear of this annoying on/off button issue - it having a safety time out that was 4 seconds or somejunk. Mine? I'm not even sure, lasts about a minute I'd guess. But it's the new updated version that I'd gotten, it was fine on time-outs.
I liked the old-school tensioning system more, or thought I would, truth? I'm still curious how I'd like them both, compared side-by-side. But I've had no real issue getting the tooless-tensioner to work. At least past the learning curve of figuring out how it worked in the first place. But that was day 1... Had to get this version to get more batteries and in all ways it's just been a fine saw.
I stored it on a bag, it did leak a lil' oil, that leakage is how the system works/it happens. I also observed Makita was one of the few electric chainsaws I saw with oiling adjustment possibilities. There's some screw you can turn, somewhere, I forget, I've never adjusted it, take it out of the box/start the batteries charging/put it together/go cut some stuff.
IMO, this is, seriously, the best electric chainsaw on the market, overall. Milwaukee cuts harder, fine. Makita cuts really damn well, seems more reserved/elegant/quality. Dewalt, etc, didn't even impress me with their supposed chainsaws, not even worth mention. But *don't* take my word on the Makita chainsaw -- go watch *piles* of chainsaw videos on YouTube, see what you think...
And just for humor's sake? I got this saw over a tree near a new car I'd bought, birds kept crapping on my car. Daily. So i thought I'd remove the tree. Once I researched/ordered this perfect saw -- and it is pretty damn perfect -- but while I was waiting for it to arrive, I observed my car was being hit sometimes where the tree wasn't. I thought more, figured it out, the older car I left fairly dirty. I hate night drivers with ultra-bright LED lights (you know who you are, punks!) and so I let the mirrors get dirty. Newer car? Nice and polished? I was attracting rutty grumpy birds who saw themselves and had to bat at the window/leave messes on the car. I got a saw, I got both bars, both covers, replacement chains, etc, and basically blew about half a grand on problem solved, before anything arrived, by the application of 2 spare plastic grocery bags (to cover the mirrors). On the upside? Did some yard clearing, since...
The biggest complaint I've seen? Is battery life. Electric chainsaws *all* eat their battery, some use stronger batteries, makita's using 2x5 amp hour but they're 18V batteries powering a 36V system. Which is why it cuts so much nicer than many other saws. Milwaukee's doing an 18V battery/system, but at 12 amp hours/it's powerful over the battery pushing it. Ponder how you're going to use the saw -- a tree falls, you'll cut it into segments, move them out your driveway? Because most tests I saw were them cutting "cookies" -- slicing a log over and over into small circle-discs. I remember someone saying Makita could only do 40-45 or so of those. But a 50' tree falls and you cut it into 2' log segments, 24 cuts, you could do that about-twice. Are you then taking 2' segments and using the chainsaw to slice them into logs? Because a good axe swing can split those... For my use, overgrown yard, I'd go here and there and take down saplings. Or do actual limbing. But most of my cuts were small, quick, over, a battery saw doesn't keep running/burning fuel, it's only really running while you're using it. Suffice I've gone out cutting, and stopped, and still had most of my battery left. I'm also horribly unfit, lazy, etc...
When I was deciding whether to get the 14" or 16" saw, I compared the parts lists for both. The bar and chain are the only differences. I decided to get the 14" because that will be more than enough for what I generally need but I can always get a 16" bar and chain for an instant upgrade.
It was also easy to handle for felling a black walnut tree that decided to pop up a few years back in an inconvenient spot. Black walnut grows FAST around here and the wood is quite hard. This saw cut through it like butter.
We'll see how it holds up over time, but if every other Makita tool I've ever owned is an indication, I expect it will be good. I've never done any repairs on any of my Makita LXT tools and they all still work perfectly. I did have one of their prosumer grade drills once upon a time. That lasted me a couple years of professional duty use before it gave up the ghost, but for $40 second hand with an LXT compatible charger and battery (both of which are still going) I still don't think I've ever gone wrong buying Makita.
I've had several cheap gas chainsaws over the years, and frankly I hated all of them. They have a lot of fussy maintenance, you need ear protection when you run them, and inevitably you will find yourself swearing at them when they refuse to start and you need to get some work done.
This solves a lot of those issues and is perfect for homeowners, landscapers or to keep in your 4WD. It has basically the same cutting power as a small, light duty gas saw. But it starts every time and requires no maintenance beyond adding oil and sharpening the blades occasionally. It is also far quieter than a gas chainsaw, which I certainly appreciate.
It is well made like all Makita stuff, with good weight balance, making it easy to control. In fact it feels and works just like a small gas chainsaw.
I do not find the battery life with 4 batteries to be a problem in normal use. But I would not buy this with just 2 batteries. I haven't formally tested it but it feels like you can run the saw under load maybe 20-25 minutes of per charge, which is a enough to make a fair number of cuts, but you are not going to cut up anything except the smallest tree with one set of batteries. With 4 batteries you can't run the saw continuously, largely because the batteries get hot and have to cool down before they can be charged again. But I find that working at a normal, deliberate pace, taking breaks occasionally, I am almost never without juice if I drop the dead batteries on the charger and then go back to work with the spare set. Fortunately, the charger runs a fan to cool the batteries and then will automatically start charging them when safe to do so, so that is very easy to manage.
This is not a saw you are going to use every day, but few people need a saw that performs to that level. For the kinds of tasks you would normally use a small gas chainsaw for, this is an ideal replacement.
**UPDATE - I got a pair of TenMore 18V 6.0ah batteries and they perform much better, charge quicker and seem to last longer!
I regret this purchase. First one from Makita. That name always meant quality to me in years past.
This saw cuts super well. Very impressed with it. I've had it for three months and have taken down dozens of trees from saplings through trees about as think as the 14" blade. It has performed excellently. I've down a bunch of trail clearing with it too. Great saw.
It opens very easily for cleaning - no tool needed. The chain tightening mechanism is beautifully simple. Very easy to maintain.
The battery life is above expectations. Again, very impressive. Dozens of six to twelve inch cuts without needing to swap batteries. And then, swapping batteries is easier and faster than filling with gas. And the battery charger does its work quickly too. Highly recommend this tool.
I dropped a 12" maple with a lot of top growth. I easily took care of the top and cut up the trunk and large branches into stove-length logs, all in about an hour. The saw handles like a dream in the brush and I never encountered the problem with the saw turning off that was described by some of the other buyers.
I do have a major gripe however. The directions for assembling the bar and chain to the saw are absolutely horrible. This assembly process is quite different from the process one would use to put a bar and chain on a typical gas powered saw, so clear instructions are important. First, the print in the manual is tiny. You need excellent light to read it, and then it's still a challenge. Second, the instructions for the assembly process are ungrammatical and unclear, bordering on incomprehensible. I would think a large company like Makita that sells a lot of products in the U.S. could afford to hire an English speaking technical writer to do a respectable job in creating a good user manual. This manual is a disgrace.
The diagrams too are misleading and unclear. Numbers are used to link illustrations of parts to their names; then in the same paragraphs, the steps in the directions are numbered. The reader is immediately confused about the meaning of the numbers. It took me longer to put the bar and chain on the saw than it did to fell and cut up that maple.







