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- + Для своей ценовой категории - отличный шуруповёрт. Мощности достаточно. Аккумулятора на 2 ah хватает надолго ( хотя я сильно сомневался)
- - Не очень понравился кейс...
- + Качество сборки, мощность, моднейшая зарядная станция.
- - Не уверен, возможно, но это прям не точно, ведь...
- + - безщеточный двигатель
- крутящий момент 50 Н·м
- Кейс Makpac
- под такой аккумулятор много китайский копий на aliexpress, если не нужен хороший инструмент, то можно алишке набрать разного Китая - я например брал...
- + качество отличное одним словом макита
- - нет
- + Удобно держать даже женской руке. Достаточно лёгкий.
- + Отличный шуруповерт. Рекомендую
- - Кейс не специализированный под модель и её комплектацию. Но, как кейс...
- + Запас мощности, Крутящий момент, сама дрель не тяжёлая особенно с аккумулятором 2а,
Патрон не люфтит, биения вообще нет, покупал по скидке за 5650, инструмент супер. Защита от...
- + Классный шурик,пришёл на 2 дня раньше чем было заявлено, оригинал, вкусная цена, свежая дата выпуска. Всё аккуратно упаковано,спасибо продавцу и службе доставки что ничего не испачкано и не покоцано...
- + Удобная развесовка, хорошо лежит в руке. Патрон без люфтов, крутит ровно. Саморезы от 30мм только в путь.
- - Субъективно - слишком мощный. Если крутить мелкие саморезы (3х12, 3х16) очень проблемно контролировать крутящий...
- + Обычный шурик
- - Бита в комплекте совсем убогая, нет крепления под биты. В описании на сайте написано-Китай, на Шурике-Румыния. Как обычно...
- + Много режимов, есть сверление, подсветка, вкручивает вглубь дерева даже толстые саморезы, если выставить режим 2 и 21 то работает как будто...
- + Легкая,удобно лежит в руке ,оборотов и мощности достаточно.
- + хороший шуруповёрт
- + отлично работает
- + лучший инструмент в классе. использование 10 лет предыдущего исполнения без вопросов. повышенная мощность, быстрая зарядка, удобный и быстрый зажим патрона. рекомендую
- - цена несоразмерная
- + хороший шуруповерт , легкий , удобный в работе . Пользуюсь каждый день .
In and of itself, the power switch would not be much of a problem, except that it has an auto-shutoff feature that deactivates the unit after 4 seconds of non-use. 4 seconds!!! At first I thought this would just be a minor bother to press the power switch, but in practice I found it quite frustrating to have to press it every time I moved to make another cut, especially wearing heavy work gloves. What I found myself doing to compensate for this problem was to keep pressing the tool trigger (revving the motor) every 2-3 seconds, which prevents a time out. However, this "solution" results in the saw blade spinning (dangerously) while I am moving. This is clearly a safety hazard. Further, I found that I tend to rush to get into position to prevent the saw from timing out - another safety hazard. And, it seems to me that pressing the trigger every 2-3 seconds would drain the battery prematurely. So, as a result of this new "safety" feature, this tool is actually far more dangerous than my other power tools.
This defect was so serious that I contacted Makita tech support. I explained the situation and was informed that my unit must be defective, as this chainsaw was designed to auto power off after 1-2 minutes, and not after only 4 seconds (ahh, that makes more sense). Makita support recommended I return that defective unit and replace it. Several days later the new unit arrived, and I anxiously tested it. Same thing! Powers off after 4 seconds. Disappointed, I again contacted Makita and a different rep told me that the unit is designed to auto shutoff after only a few seconds. He said it was indeed a new "safety" feature, and could not be changed by the user. Of course, I explained experience and safety concerns with the unit, and suggested Makita change the timeout interval to at least 15 seconds. He didn't seem inclined to take my concerns seriously, and we agreed I should just return the second unit as well.
Following this disappointing development, and upon learning that the new "feature" was not actually a power switch, but a safety switch, I looked for ways to possible override it while in use. I considered opening it up and trying to wire around the switch, but decided that I was better off just continuing to use my very functional XCU02 chainsaw, and my Stihl gas chainsaw. However, after playing around with various switch combinations on this new chainsaw, I discovered that if you continue to hold down the trigger release lever in the top of the handle, the unit will not power off until after 60 seconds! That is actually a most helpful discovery, as once I practiced not letting off the release lever between cuts, the new unit was almost as good as it should have been designed originally. I do find that I still accidentally release the lever and have to interrupt my progress to reactivate the safety switch. Nonetheless, I find I no longer needlessly pressing the trigger between cuts.
However, I discovered all this quite by accident. Neither the Owner's Manual nor Tech support informed me of this option, which is an oversight. I have no doubt that there are many users who are unaware of this function and who find it necessary to "rev" the saw between cuts to keep it from timing out. Makita should at the minimum revise the manual, and preferably revise the design to allow at least 15 seconds before the unit times out.
Otherwise, this is a nice chainsaw, which I plan to keep a few days longer to evaluate further. I do note that unlike the XCU02, the XCU03 seems to have very poor low end torque. Mine stalls if I don't fully rev it up before engaging the balde in the wood. In fact, this chainsaw behaves far more like my gasoline chainsaw, which also has the internal combustion engine's poor low end torque. This unit also seems to have a much shorter battery life that the XCU02, despite having a brushless motor (which may explain the low torque compared to the brushed motor). I got about 45 minutes of useful life from the XCU03 with new 5ah batteries (the XCU02 would run for at least twice that long on the same batteries). However, in fairness, the 03 cuts much faster and therefore consumes power more aggressively.
I will update this review as I learn more, but wanted to make potential buyers (and possibly existing users) aware of the safety issues and possible works arounds, as well as flagging to Makita the need to address this problem in the existing units.
UPDATE: After using this replacement saw for another week, I have returned it. I had hoped that I could remedy the "safety" switch issue by simply holding down the trigger lock. But, what I found in practice is that I have to release my right hand to adjust the log for the next cut, or to move branches away for the next cut, and of course thus results in the tool timing out. I got so frustrated that I just taped the trigger lock closed, which worked fine and made the saw very useable. However, this is in itself a larger safety issue. And, despite this temporary improvement, I found that more often that not I reached for the smaller XCU02 saw to cut everything under 4-5", especially as it has far better torque than the 03. Moreover, my wife greatly prefers the 02 because it is more compact and easier to handle.
Interestingly, I just bought one of Makita's larger battery string trimmers, which has a power switch system very similar to the XCU03 chainsaw's. However, the trimmer switch times out after one minute (vs 4 seconds), which makes it perfectly safe and useable.
In summary, until Makita corrects the power switch problem, I cannot recommend this saw. Once Makita fixes the switch issue, this chainsaw will be useful as a replacement for my smaller gas chainsaws, as it does cut fast.

I bought the new XCU03 because I wanted more power and the longer 14" bar. Please note also that Makita claims the XCU03 will fit a 16" bar as well, as an option. I used the standard 14".
While it does indeed have substantially more power and chain speed, in my opinion the XCU03 has two fatal flaws:
1. The first is that, after using for approx. 2 hours, I could no longer get the tool-less chain adjuster to securely clamp the bar in place. No matter how I adjusted it, I could not get the bar locked in firmly. Again, I'm very familiar with Makita's tool-less adjustment system and my best guess is there may be a flaw here. I felt the lack of secure clamping was a safety hazard. I'd suggest using more metal in these critical parts.
2. I used only Makita's 5Ah and 6Ah batteries with this saw, and the saw drained the batteries much too quickly for any sort of practical use. I did not specifically measure the time it took to drain the batteries, but my impression was that it drives batteries down in less than half the time when compared with the XCU02. Even if you run two sets of batteries as I do, existing Makita batteries are simply inadequate. I would wait until Makita comes out with 10 Ah (or higher) batteries before buying this model.
Lesser, non-fatal flaws:
1. As other reviews have noted, the new LED on/off switch is a hassle to use. It is there to extend battery life, but interrupts workflow and is hard to operate while wearing gloves. And who uses a chainsaw without heavy gloves.
2. As with other Makita chainsaws, the tool-less chain adjustment could be made easier, perhaps by making the paddles on the adjusting wheel just a bit longer, and maybe rubberizing them.
3. These electrics are now getting powerful enough that makers should be making more parts out of metal, rather than plastic. This is especially true for clamping and adjusting hardware.
4. I had trouble finding the sweet-spot for the bar-oil adjustment screw. I did not have the tool long enough to dial that in, but given the increased power and RPMs of this saw, be generous with the oil.
Recommendations--
1. This is a significant improvement in terms of power over the XCU02 BUT I wouldn't buy this one until Makita comes out with batteries that can handle the additional power needs of this tool. Once bigger batteries come out, this saw could really be a beast.
2. I continue to use the XCU 02 and recommend it for both limb-trimming and tree-removal. I use it pretty easily on wood up to 10" diameter.
3. Keep the chain sharp. A sharp chain will make all the difference with either the XCU02 or XCU03.
4. A good source for replacement chains for Makita electrics is Frawley's Chain Shop, online at loggerchain dot com.

This? This is "put charged batteries in chainsaw, make sure the chain is on, fill bar oil tank, you're good". It starts instantly. Always. Doesn't matter of it's cold. No mixing gas and oil. No futzing around with the carb. No worries about leaking gas. You can leave this in your car and not worry.
It has enough power to cut through trees at least two feet wide. I'm tend to work slowly and cautiously, so I don't need more than that. Typically a battery will last me 2-4 hours of work. If I was operating flat out cutting continuously, it lasts about an hour. As I own 4 pairs of batteries, it's not a concern for me.
People complain about the button thing. It's not a big deal. You get used to it, and it's a safety function. People very used to gas chainsaws complain up a storm, because they're used to idling the chainsaw and the chainsaw being more than loud enough to tell you it's ready to go. Electric chainsaws don't have any noise to tell you it's live. So yes, you have to hit the idiot button to make it live. If you work with gas chainsaws every day for decades, it probably is annoying as it's very different. If not, it's not a big deal. And certainly not "zOMG dangerous" safety feature. For a normal person that used a gas chainsaw regularly but not daily, it'll take you 10 minutes to get used to it.
Oregon bars fit perfectly. The Oregon chains work well, but tend to get thrown more often than I'd like. It'll take you a bit to figure out how to tension the bar perfectly. I threw more chains than I'd care to admit working it out. Weirdly, Power Care (cheaper brand) chains seem to working better for me than the more expensive Oregon chains.
I've dropped couple dozen trees, limbed them and then sectioned, no issues.
If you're going to be using a chainsaw daily, stick to gas Stihl. If you use chainsaws once in a while or just on the weekends, buy this. I only wish I had done so years ago.

There are two types of chainsaws, a rear-handle saw and a top-handle saw. The rear-handle saw is what most people will want. It is designed for both cutting down trees and cutting them up. It is also a safer design than the top-handle saw because your hands are further apart giving you more control of the saw. The top-handle saw is geared more for professionals. It's easier to maneuver and can be operated with one hand (one-handed operation is not recommended because it's a safety hazard), but it requires more attention to safety as your hands are close together while holding the saw on top and is not designed to cut down trees. Both types of saws require great attention to safety while using or you can be seriously hurt or killed.
Note on the Makita model numbers: "Z" on the end of the model number means "saw only", "PT" means "saw with 2 batteries and a charger" and "PT1" means "saw with 4 batteries and a charger".
First up is the XCU02PT1. This saw is geared for the average homeowner and has a tool-less chain adjustment. It is a 36-volt, 12-inch, top-handle saw with a single chain speed of 1,650 FPM, weighs 10.1 pounds with batteries and is made in Japan. The brushed motor has replaceable brushes. The kit comes with four 5 Ah batteries, a dual-port charger and the saw. This is a great buy at $319 because the you get the whole kit for the price of four batteries by themselves. While it is a top-handle saw, the slow chain speed makes this saw safer for the non-professionals to use. It has a lot of torque and instant chain speed with long run-times between charges. This is an older model (2014 or 2015) and it shows by its lack of a brushless motor and no electronic power/safety switch. Also note that the support handle only has a top grip (it doesn't wrap around to the side), so this saw is not designed to cut horizontally. I also found that the oil cap can leak if you leave the saw resting vertically on its batteries with the bar in the air. It doesn't leak while resting horizontally. If you are new to chainsaws, this is a good starter saw that can cut off branches and cut them up into firewood.
Next is the XCU03PT1. This saw is geared for the average homeowner and has a tool-less chain adjustment. It is a 36-volt, 14-inch, rear-handle saw with a variable chain speed of up to 3,940 FPM, weighs 11.5 pounds with battery and is made in China. The kit comes with four 5 Ah batteries, a dual-port charger and the saw. This kit is also a great buy at $375 because you get the whole kit for the price of four batteries and a charger. It's like getting the saw for free. This saw was released in 2016, has a brushless motor (more efficient and less maintenance) and an electronic power/safety switch. The early builds of this model had a power switch that turned off after 4-5 seconds of letting go of the handle's safety lever which understandably made consumers upset. The latest builds (including mine) have a 60 second timeout. The brushless motor has a soft start which takes a second or two to come up to full speed before you can start cutting. This saw has a current limiter, so if you bog down the motor the saw will cut out to protect the motor and batteries. Because of the faster chain speed, this saw cuts twice as fast as the XCU02 but has a shorter battery life. The support handle does wrap around to the side so you can cut horizontally. If you need to cut down trees, this saw can do that and cut them up into firewood.
Last is the XCU06PT. Makita states this saw is designed for the professional. It comes with a scrench to adjust and tighten the chain. It is an 18-volt, 10-inch, top-handle saw with a variable chain speed of up to 4,720 FPM, weighs 7.2 pounds with battery and is made in China. The kit comes with two 5 Ah batteries, a single-port charger and the saw for $318. This saw is so light that it feels like a toy, but it's not! It's a great limbing saw. The single battery reduces the weight, but it also reduces overall runtime. Thankfully, you can swap out batteries when needed. The saw is balanced for one handed use (one-handed operation is not recommended because it's a safety hazard). If you are climbing up in a tree to cut branches, this is the saw you want. It also has a D ring so you can connect it to a lanyard. This saw was released in 2018, has a brushless motor (more efficient and less maintenance) and an electronic power/safety switch. The power switch turns off after 60 seconds of letting go of the handle's safety lever. The brushless motor has a soft start which takes a second or two to come up to full speed before you can start cutting. This saw also has a current limiter, so if you bog down the motor the saw will cut out to protect the motor and battery. While the support handle wraps around to the side, this saw was not designed to cut down trees. You can do it, but you are limited by the small bar size.
I found myself using the XCU06 the most because it was so nimble. When its battery died, I went on with the XCU02. I really liked it because I didn't have to wait a second or two for the chain to come up to speed before cutting. For cutting down the tree and cutting up the trunk, I liked using the XCU03 the best. It's larger bar and faster chain speed made quick work of it. I also own an Echo CS-400 with an 18-inch bar that I love for larger jobs. It blows away all three Makitas. I only use non-ethanol gas in it, so I have never had any issues starting it. However, it does require slightly more maintenance and is much, much louder than any of the battery-powered Makitas. So if you are new to chainsaws and need to cut up beefy branches or small trees for firewood, get the XCU02PT1. If you are more experienced, need to cut down trees and cut them up, and only want one saw, get the XCU03PT1. If you are climbing trees to cut off branches or want a more nimble saw to compliment your existing chainsaw, get the XCU06PT.
Other current Makita saws I didn't try:
XCU01Z - A slow 18-volt, 4.5-inch, top-handle chainsaw designed for cutting small branches with a single chain speed of 980 FPM.
XCU04PT - Same as the XCU03PT1, except it only includes two batteries and has a larger 16-inch bar.
XCU05Z - Same as the XCU06Z, except it has a shorter 8-inch bar and doesn't look to be available anywhere.
XCU07Z - Same specs as the XCU03Z, except it doesn't have the tool-less chain adjustment.
XCU08Z - A professional 36-volt, 14-inch, top-handle saw with a variable chain speed of up to 3,940 FPM.
XCU09Z - Same as XCU08Z, except with a larger 16-inch bar.
I love the Makita chargers. They have a fan that circulates air through the battery while it's charging. This is how they can recharge a 5 Ah battery in 45 minutes with it barely getting warm. Very nice!
If you are looking for a battery-powered leaf blower, try the Makita XBU02PT1. It comes with four 5 Ah batteries that are compatible with all of the current Makita chainsaws listed above. For the price of the kit ($329), it's like buying four batteries and getting a blower and dual-port charger for free. It's also a very nice, powerful and quiet blower. My 8 year old Hitachi gas blower is stronger and better at larger jobs, but the Makita is great for quick jobs such as blowing grass off of everything after mowing or blowing out the garage.
A word on safety. Never operate a chainsaw when you are tired. Clear the area where you are standing while cutting (you don't want to trip while the chain is moving). Keep your chain sharp. All three Makita saws I tried use an 11/64" or 4.5 mm round file for sharpening the chain. Always wear eye protection, gloves and chainsaw chaps when cutting. None of the chainsaw chaps are rated for electric chainsaws, but you should wear them regardless as it could save your life or prevent an ER visit. If like the way your face/head looks, you should wear a hard hat with face shield. Never wear loose clothing that can get caught in a moving chain. If your saw is loud, wear hearing protection as well. Pay attention to what you are cutting and the surrounding area of your intended cut including what's behind it. Make sure what you are cutting isn't going to fall on you or someone/something you value. Never let a moving chain come in contact with the ground. Remember that most chainsaw accidents take less than a second to do their damage. When you are done cutting, activate the chain brake so you or your kids don't accidentally start the saw up again. Stay safe!
Update: I've added a photo of all three models for comparing sizes. The XCU02 is the widest because of the brushed motor layout. The XCU03 has the longest body (longer than my Echo saw). The XCU06 is the smallest all around.

That said, as other reviewers have mentioned, it has a safety "feature" that almost completely kills it as a product. The power button has to be pressed and held EVERY. SINGLE. TIME! I cannot stress how frustrating that is. The only way to avoid it is to either keep the chain idling (extremely hazardous and unwise). Another reviewer mentioned there is a trick to avoid this if you keep your hand wrapped around the grip, however that's only solves a tiny portion of your typical cutting. Quite frequently you will need to make a cut, set the saw down to move the chunk you cut and then pick up the saw again which means you have to press and hold the Power button again. Compared to my Stihl and probably just about every other cordless saw now on the market, this is a terrible design and a huge mistake by Makita. You eventually get in the habit of pressing and holding the button but you never appreciate it and every time you think how silly it is. Its a shame because its an otherwise wonderful saw that does a tremendous job but honestly, its hard for me to recommend it to others. Considering that Makita is an OPE manufacturer already, it seems especially egregious that that they would make this big of a mistake. Bottom line, its such a annoying defect that even if you already have invested heavily in the Makita lineup like I have, I'd recommend considering another manufacturer for your chainsaw need. I'll be keeping mine and getting rid of my Stihl but I'm less than thrilled with the idea that I'm going to have to fight the power button every time I use it. Since I only need a chainsaw for occasional duty its acceptable for that. If I had to use it daily, I'd return it because its that big of a hindrance. You think you won't mind, but trust me, you will.

I use this saw to trim and cut down small trees on our home lot, but almost didn’t buy it because some reviews were highly critical of how you start the saw.
THREE switches are used to turn the saw on:
1. Depress the main power button and a green light shines; it’s above the trigger (see Amazon photo). You have 3 seconds to begin using the saw or the power shuts off.
2. Push the lock-off lever (top side of handle from trigger) down flush – i.e., grab the handle.
3. Pull the switch-trigger to instantly start the saw – begin cutting.
When you stop cutting:
... if you release the lock-lever, power will shut off in 3 seconds; start with #1 above to use the saw again
... if you hold the lock-lever down, saw will activate with the trigger.
The power button’s light becomes more difficult to see when wearing gloves. The problem is that you should always wear gloves when using a chain saw.
Picture felling a 12" diameter tree with a hundred branches that need removing and cutting up. As you make your way to each branch you’ll likely release the lock-lever to carry the saw plus more than three seconds will pass, so it’s back to step #1 each time. For big jobs, these safety steps will be frustrating. However, this feature is important for users such as teenagers, or my wife, and those not as familiar with the saw.
[Some reviewers suggest taping the lock-lever down, so the saw is ready with only a trigger pull – but that bypasses safety features designed to prevent personal injury.]
- seems about as powerful and quick-cutting as a small gas chain saw – the kind arborists carry up trees for trimming.
- very quiet – we can start early in the morning and not wake the neighbors.
- the oil tank (for the chain’s auto-oiler) doesn’t leak if you tighten the cap, so there’s no need to drain the tank between uses and it won’t leak on your truck bed. If the chain isn’t getting sufficient oil, use the adjusting screw to increase the oil flow.
- chain tightening is simple. Back off on the hand screw securing the bar; rotate the tiny wheel below that toward the bar’s tip until the chain isn’t loose (rotator wheel is small to prevent over tightening of the chain); retighten the hand screw. Check chain tension every half dozen cuts at least, because it can loosen. Cutting with a loose chain, especially if cutting on the bar’s top by pushing up on a limb – can throw the chain off the bar, possibly ruining it and the drive gear.
- Replacement chain: Oregon 90PX052 with a suffix of XMA, G, or CK.
- needs no pull-rope for starting like a 2-cycle engine does; no “can’t start” issues; no mixing gas/oil, no ear-shattering noise – humans will appreciate the quiet.
- as I own several other Makita 18v tools, the deal with the four 5ah batteries was a no-brainer. I’ll rarely run-down the batteries on any given job, but will have spares if needed.
- The handle guard (just forward of the front handle) is also a chain brake. If your hand slips off the handle while cutting, the theory is, that will push the handle guard toward the bar, locking the chain – another safety feature. The handle guard must be in the rear position to start the saw.
- Makita offers several dozen of tools using these same (18v) batteries. So, once you own a charger and multiple batteries, you can buy the “tool only” version of 18v Makita models and save big money.
The key to how frustrating the safety switch is, depends on the size of your cutting tasks; and your patience. For occasional small jobs around the house, it’s not bad. But, if you’ll use the saw for hours at a time, it could be a royal pain in the arse.
All in all, though, another professional grade tool from Makita.


