Комплект Logitech Flight System G940 — 67 отзывов, плюсы и минусы

Here's the deal. Logitech doesn't have a great reputation among hardcore flight simulation enthusiasts. So you ask, "why is this?" I'll tell you why. Because their products are usually poor quality and have poor accuracy. Perhaps for someone who only needs a joystick 'every once in awhile' they might be just fine, but to be used day in and day out.. they break pretty quickly. Usually in Logitech's case, it was due to the pots going bad in the sticks.Then they released the G940. A lot of flight sim geeks were extremely leery with purchasing this setup. Logitech kept marketing their stuff and hyping it up and a lot of people were saying a lot of great things about it so a few of us bought into the hype and gave up our hard earned money.Yes, I'm going to slam the stick and the company (it IS a two star review after all) but to be fair, I want to talk about the positives first. You have to understand that there is a LOT of good about this stick... and I mean A LOT! If this wasn't the case, I wouldn't be bothering to write this right now because it is Logitech after all, but what they have here could have been THE BEST OF THE BEST of the HOTAS world. I'll explain why it is not at the end.OK THE GOOD:-Split Throttle-Lots of Buttons-Dual Stage Trigger-Highly programmable (like any other stick)-FORCE FEEDBACK which works VERY nicely-HALL EFFECT SENSORS instead of pots on the X/Y stick axes-Complete setup, includes stick, throttle AND rudders-Competitive pricing (About the same or less than buying a decent HOTAS stick, throttle, and pedals separately in some other quality brands)-Looks cool-Feels durable. Still plastic-like, but what isn't these days?-Lots of trim wheels-Very accurate, as long as you don't reverse the direction of any axis (SEE BELOW)-Buttons on the throttle can be programmed to display three difference colorsNow THE BAD:-No programs support the programmable throttle buttons' colors.-A bit of center area where the Force Feedback doesn't work (this is to protect the motors and pretty typical for all FFB sticks)-Goofy calibration stuff (have to move all axes through full motion before using after boot up or it does goofy things.. it's a 'self calibrating' thing) Stick doesn't want to stay perfectly 'centered' when released as a result-Programming software is still a tiny bit 'glitchy'Now the four BAD things listed really aren't that big of a deal, and to be honest what programming software ISN'T just a bit glitchy, but their are two HUGE issues that affect this stick which make it impossible for me to recommend it. (To be fair, I only gave it 2 stars instead of 1 so more people would read the review).The first (and most important) is LOGITECH CUSTOMER SUPPORT, and you can probably throw their Engineers in there as well. Because the company is so huge, and has so many department it becomes almost impossible for them to be able to make even a small 'tweak' to fix problems. If you email their tech support, they simply give you an 'automated' response with a ticket #, and then "close" the issue a couple of days later with no real resolution. If you call them, they simply give you a ticket # and do the same. (They explained later in small print that 'closed' doesn't really mean closed and that they're still looking into your issue) but personally I feel that this method simply makes most people give up. Perhaps if I had been more ignorant or reverted to foul language and threats then maybe I'd have seen some more effort. Or maybe if I had a REAL issue with my stick (broken during shipping or the like) instead of complaining about a serious design flaw, then maybe I wouldn't have been shoved aside either.. who knows.Now it's time to talk about something in which Logitech calls "Hysteresis", but we call the "Reversal Bug". This is the second show stopping issue for this stick. As long as you keep moving an axis in the same direction it works great! If you reverse an axis' direction, then it JUMPS by as much as FIVE PERCENT making it impossible to 'fine tune' your aim, throttle position, trim position, etc. This occurs in ALL G940 axes, pot or not, and some areworse than others! This is not an issue with just a few sticks.. this is a DESIGN FLAW that exists in every G940 they've produced. The good news is that we have finally been able to get Logitech to admit to this, and that it can be fixed at the firmware level.The even better news is that they've finally decided to work with us to develop a firmware to help correct the issues. I was even emailed a BETA firmware which reduces the amount of "Reversal Bug" in the X and Y axes by about 65%.The BAD news is that they STILL believe this "Hysteresis" is actually a good thing and we can't convince them otherwise.The EVEN MORE BAD news is that they announced that they have no plans to REMOVE this "Hysteresis" and they have no plans to even TOUCH the pot axes (throttle, rudder, trims, toe brakes, mini mouse, etc) so we're just going to ha

I was given the opportunity to review this flight simmer system. As an avid flight simmer, I was very enthusiastic about the entire set-up of this system, which includes a joystick with force-feedback, rudder pedals and a throttle.Pros:1. Set-up: Right of of the box, I was impressed with the quality of the equipment. I inserted CD for installation, and within a few minutes I was using the system with my MS Flight Simulator (in this case FSX). Set-up for basic functions was fairly easy, but it is obvious that there are limitless ways for customization of this system. It is powered, so you need to plug it in first before use.2. Quality: Obviously, when you are spending a significant amount of money on something like this, you want to be sure that it will last. Frankly, I thought that the items were of good quality for the money. The joystick is solid and hopefully lasts for a long while. The rudder pedals are very solid and seem well-built. They are actually pretty heavy and stay in place quite well. Similarly, the throttle is also a good quality item. Overall, it seems well built from a mechanical point of view.3. Ease of use: First off, the joystick is a force-feedback design. In other words, as you roll on the runway, fly through turbulence and move the plane, the joystick will move in your hand. The joystick also has plenty of buttons for customizing weapons functions or aircraft features depending on your wishes (however, the basic features are already in place such as landing gear and flaps). Especially for combat simulators this is really a neat and immersive feature. The pedals are also very good for combat type games and add a very good feature. The throttle is quite easy to use as well.4. Aesthetic: Well, from the start, you will realize that this item is NOT something to cart to work to use during a break as it is significant and takes up space. But, for its purpose, it is nice-looking. The pedals are well-designed and certainly look and feel as though they could be a home-built system. I do appreciate that the entire system looks like serious pieces of equipment and not like toys (even though they are in effect adult toys).5. Immersion: Except for the overwhelming aspect of learning to fly all over again if your not used to this type of system (see below), the immersion of this system is pretty compelling, and it does make me feel as though I am more inside the game than just using a simple joystick.Neutral:1. Quibbles: I frankly wish that there was a off switch for this item so that you could simply turn off the features when you were done. Instead, you have to unplug the power for the system.2. Overwhelming: This thing is not for a casual gamer. I had to re-learn how to fly again with this system as I never had pedals before (I simply had a rotating joystick for a rudder). After years of flying in a certain style, the learning curve is significant and takes some time. I cannot express how many times I accidentally hit a pedal and caused an upset or a stall or a crash during a heated dogfight. And even more times than I can count, I 'augered' in (or bought the farm) during a landing. This can be frustrating! So, unless you are used to this type of system, don't think you can simply adapt in a few hours and be fine - you will learn to fly all over again.3. Size: Again, this is a neutral quality. It is a significant piece of equipment that you cannot just hide from spouses, children or snoopy friends. confess to your inner flight sim geekdom or this system will reveal it for you!Cons:1. Price: Well, the question you have to ask yourself is can you afford this item without causing a domestic problem. It is not cheap, but for a avid flight simmer, it is WELL worth it because of the immersive quality, and it sure beats tyring to build your own. Now, maybe I can set-up some more monitors!?2. Quibble: I have several different flight sims including the IL2 family of games as well as FSX 2004 and FSX. As for combat sims, this unit is awesome. On the other hand, for flying a 747 in FSX, the force feedback is a little too much. I wish there was simpler way to switch off force feedback in different scenarios (and there may be one lurking inside that I haven't found yet), but sometimes the force feedback is a little too much and becomes gimmicky.3. Durability: My only concern is that given the daisy-chain way in which everything plugs into the rudder pedal base, I sincerely hope that I can plug a replacement joystick (because these have a habit of failing after heavy use in short order) into the base unit without a significant problem. This hasn't failed for me, but rather, I just want to know that this will be replaceable in the future given the not insignificant cost of this system.Overall, I think this is a really easy to use and immersive system that a avid flight simmer will enjoy immensely. I have a variety of Logitech products and I always find them t

Logitech G940 Review 3-11-11Just before I ordered Logitech's G940, I ordered and tried the Saitek X52, (not to be confused with the X52 Pro). I fly mostly in FSX, (lately helicopters and stick controlled planes), and have just started flying some of the other 'action' games like Wings over Europe.This is not a review about the X52 so I will not go into detail about it other than to say that for my purposes, (flying stick control planes and Heli's), the X52 fell short by quite a bit.When I read all the reviews about the G940 I have to say that I was afraid to spend the money on it. But then it dawned on me that almost every review I read that had something terrible to say about the G940 was dated one or more years ago!So I bought it and the first thing I noticed was that the stick was limp and fell over to the side. I have never had a Force Feedback stick so I wasn't sure if it was broken or not.I called the Logitech Customer Service and quickly got a real person on the line, (that surprised me!). I wanted to know if the stick was suppose to be that way until the game was loaded and I didn't want to take it all out of the box and hook it all up just to have to put it all back in the box again.Well the CS rep was not familiar with the G940 or any other Flight Sim joystick and after I repeated my simple question 4 or 5 times he told me "yes it will straighten out when you plug it in". And then a minute later he changed his mind and said that it is broken and to box it back up and ship it back.So I discarded his advice, (all of it), hooked it all up and as soon as I plugged the stick into a USB port, (after plugging in the power supply), it came alive like it is supposed to. A tight, detailed report on the G940 is beyond my ability time wise.So the short of it all is this; Forget all about the bad reviews you may have read because most are dated quite some time ago, (one of the latest I could find was 11 months ago and the rest were over a year). Buy the G940, hook it up and download the software. THEN BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE, go to Logitech's website and update the software, (at this point in time it was something like vrs 5.10.1.Then be absolutely sure to find and download the latest FIRMWARE! I believe that is vrs. 1.41 at the time of this review. Don't expect the stick to give you anymore than it promised and you will be happy with it. This is a device for games, (yes, most flight sims are 'games'). Approach it from that point of view and you will be as happy about it as I am.The materials used are metal and plastic but high quality and the feel of the Throttle, Rudder pedals and joystick, (including all the buttons), is better than any I have tried or owned including the Saitek X52, (built better than the X52 by quite a bit might add).I also have and use the Saitek rudder pedals, yoke, throttle, and switch box and I like those but for 'stick controlled' planes and Helicopters the G940 is Definitely the way to go.Great Product and no software/firmware problems, (providing that you make sure you have the latest updates), that I can find in spite of some serious attempts to make it screw up as describe in some reviews. Go for it, you won't regret it and you can always send it back if you don't like it. But try it out and see for yourself!

Length:: 7:35 MinsThe video review:--------------------------The first part of the video/intro just shows some games I've used the G940 with (rather long).If you just want to see the G940 unit in the video, skip to 3:28---------------------------The retail box with everything in it weighs: 15.4 lbs.Joystick weighs: 2.64 lbsDual Throttle weighs: 2.2 lbsRudder Pedals weighs: 6.17 lbsGames I've tried this controller with:* IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 (highly recommend! if you're going to get this controller, then you need this game; or if you already play this game a lot, then you need this HOTAS!)* Microsoft Flight Simulator X / Acceleration* Lock On: Modern Air Combat* DCS: Black Shark* Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X.FORCE FEEDBACK:The forcefeedback will vary depending on the software; it can get really insane or seem like a wasted potential. I find the force feedback excellent and works best with "IL-2 Sturmovik 1946"; when I fire my weapon, there's a nice rumble and really feels like I'm shooting. The rumble when taking off/landing is also great in IL-2/FSX. Now, if I set the force feedback to 150% then it'll vibrate just from the engine/flying - but that makes my hands feel weird/tired. However, for "DCS Black Shark" and "Lock On", the force feedback isn't as impressive; I don't feel anything when firing missiles. If "enable centering spring" is not checked in the Logitech Profiler, the joystick for the game "Lock On" is really loose unless I encounter G-force or crash.OTHER THOUGHTS:- Make sure the power plug is not loose at all; I wondered why the joystick became loose and no force feedback was going... and it was that simple mistake at times.- The throttle has buttons that are green LED. There is a zip file called "JoystickSDK" on the software folder where you can mess with the LED to also red/amber/off. Unfortunately, since the G940 has only been released recently, there's no games that can take advantage of the color changing LED to indicate status of your aircraft/etc. It would be nice if it could at least make it change colors when switching modes on the throttle (there's up to 3)- It comes with a set of cut-out button labels (and you can try to make your own, of course) where you can put underneath the LEDs, in case you forget what the button does. It's a nice touch, but since it has "P1, P2, P3... etc" printed bold right in the center of the plastic cover, it's actually hard to read.- The Joystick base can get quite warm.- The power plug, throttle, pedal all connect directly to the joystick.- The throttle/pedal tension can be adjusted- I wish there was some sort of click/lock or indication by feel when the trim is actually being centered.- Has directional/hat-switch buttons on the throttle and joystick! But I highly recommend getting TrackIR! (I absolutely love that thing! It's a must for flying simulators and especially if you want to add more realism on top of this controller!)Pros:+ Looks and feels great; throttle and joystick handles are made out of rubber material so you'll have good grip. (although there are plastic parts that somewhat detract the overall quality)+ Ergonomic joystick buttons (nice extra button for the pinky behind the joystick)+ Force feedback (not your simple cheap gamepad controller vibration, but really simulates the effect).+ Stainless steel rudder pedals+ Throttle has a mode toggle switch button allowing more button configurations.+ Love the dual throttle! (can also lock it to be single) - feels good in the hands.+ Holes on the joystick/throttle for bolting it down.Cons:- Setting up the controls was quite a nightmare! Spent way too many hours trying to figure things out because button configurations could conflict from game or the Logitech Profiler. Don't even think you can just jump right in the cockpit and start flying with this. Would be nice to get more detailed step-by-step on properly configure things for the games (there is a PDF file included telling you how to set up correctly for FSX, Lock On, Falcon, IL-2).- Makes this strange buzzing noise when the joystick is idle and not centered- On old games/arcade style, it sees the HOTAS (joystick, throttle, pedal) as the same input device (ie: the X-Y axis for the joystick end up the same as the throttle). The only way for me to use the G940 with a game like H.A.W.X was to assign/emulate the keyboard buttons to the controller/assign "zones" (you can assign/trigger keys on certain positions, "zones", on the throttle if you'd like) to the throttle through the Logitech Profiler.- Games that really fully take advantage of this HOTAS is limited (hopefully, this will change with more flying games/LED-changing support/etc.).Although it's not perfect, overall, I give it a 5 stars because it makes flying more enjoyable (especially in IL-2) and it comes with all the essential parts to start flying/force feedback for an affordable price. I'm more of a racer and own the Logitech G25 Racing Wheel, but now Logitech has brought a "G25" version --

I read all the negative reviews and had my doubts that this was a wise purchase. But I took into consideration the different personalities and temperments that can be involved in the negative reviews. Not to mention the veried technical abilities that people have or lack when installing a new devise with multipal settings.Logitech Flight System G940 Force Feedback Joystick At first as with any new devise there is a learning curve and the more you work with the devise the more you learn. Making assumtions and not reading the instructions slowly is my main down fall. But soon(within an hour at the most)I flying my favorite sim and enjoying it. About 2 weeks after getting the G940 I noticed a jerk in the planes flight and I thought the sim was reproducing a tubulent in the air and just kept on flying for several day till I notice there was a twitch in the rudder pedals in the simulated cockpit that corresponded with the planes jerk. That was when I realized the jerk was being generated by a false signal from the rudder pedals. It was a spike in the signal from the rudder pedals when they were just barely touched. I contacted Logitech support on a Sunday morning at about 7:15AM and answered the Techs Questions after describing the problem. The coclusion was that the fault was in the Rudder Pedals and Support directed me to contact Amazon since the purchase had been only about 3 weeks earlier. I contacted Amazon on Tuesday morning and was told they would send a New Replacement and I was to box up the original unit and return with the use of a return label they would supply. The NEXT DAY I received a new unit by UPS and a return label in my E-mail. I have nothing but GOOD things to say about how this was handled by Amazon. Logitech promised that if Amazon had a problem with replacement that I was to contact Logitech and they would get me a replacement..It doesn't get any better than this!!!!!!! Thank You Amazon .....I will alway try to buy every thing I can from Amazon. The 50 or more people I work with have or will hear this story. Plus family and friends.

I used this set with Microsoft Flight Simulator X Deluxe while I was working on my private pilot's license. Using a flight simulator is really helpful even with a keyboard and mouse, because it still allows you practice navigation, radio navigation in particular. Adding a stick, throttle, and pedals, though, ups the cool factor a whole lot.I was training in a Cessna 172, which has a yoke and not a stick. I didn't find the stick to be a hindrance, however. The force feedback made the experience much more real. Initially I was using a CH Products Flight Sim Yoke with Pro Pedals and I honestly didn't feel they enhanced the experience for me. The yoke is connected to a spring so resistance is linear. Pull back or push forward and it's the same feeling no matter the attitude of the aircraft.The force feedback stick, though, makes all the difference in the world. While the sensation is not identical to the feel of the aircraft (this is really the sim software's responsibility), the feelings are similar. The stick shakes before a stall, for example, and back pressure eases before the stall break. The bottom line is that force feedback can really make a difference in a simulation.The quality of the stick is superb. It's really a well-built stick. For years I used (and was very happy with) a Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick, but Microsoft stopped updating the drivers when Vista came out and I could never get it to work with Vista or Windows 7. This stick is as sturdy as that stick, plus it has more buttons than I've got fingers.While the pedals and throttle aren't force feedback they're equally well-built. Controls are logically placed and they're heavy enough where they won't slide around. The pedals have spikes you can deploy out of the base to grip carpet if necessary. The pedals also have a tension adjustment so you can compensate if you're heavy-footed like me.What's really cool are the buttons on the throttle. I never get tired of watching them light up in sequence when the computer is turned on. Logitech's software allows you to map the buttons to whatever keystrokes you want and you can put your own labels under the plastic so you don't have to remember which button does what.Logitech's software also allows you to customize or create game profiles, though unfortunately there aren't a lot of flying/space games out there. This would have been a great stick to have back in the day, when I spent countless hours playing the Wing Commander series, the X-Wing series, Privateer, and Strike Commander. That was before I was married...now instead of saving the universe from the cat-like Kilrathi I'm changing our cats' litter box and flushing evil spiders down the loo.Sure, this seems like an expensive controller but it's really 3 in one, with force feedback. I wish more games I liked supported the force feedback but for my chair flying it's been worth the money, especially considering the cost of aircraft rental!

I ordered the G940 with medium expectations after reading reviews, and I was mildly disappointed.The thing performed reasonably well. I didn't find the stick to be as gravely as many people have said. There is a definite "gear" feeling when maneuvering, but its a soft feeling, almost squishy. The throttle resistance, while too light even with it dialed all the way up, was okay in flight. But the pedals were rather uncomfortable for me. Their stance was too narrow.The stick was very precise though. More so than my Saitek X52. But when your hand is off the stick, the Force Feedback resistance lessens a lot. There's a small optical sensor on the right side of the stick, and when you first go to grab the stick, it's a little limp for half a second, and when your palm covers the sensor the Force Feedback activates and the stick jumps to attention. It felt kinda cool. But in space sims, particularly Evochron Mercenary, when you set a heading and take your hand off the stick and it goes a little limp, the weight of the top of the stick makes it lean forward just a bit, causing your heading to drift downward. Yeah, it could be fixed by adjusting deadzones, but it shouldn't have to be.The force feedback was sorta... meh. Not to say that the actual force was weak, but the overall effect was lacking. FFB is a cool idea, but it's not necessary and doesn't really add much to the experience.I did have one smile-worthy moment with the stick, while I was flying in Microsoft Flight Simulator X. But that was more from the feeling of flying than from anything the stick did.Overall, it's an okay HOTAS. But there is one huge, glaring, problem with the unit. It shows up as three separate controllers. The stick, throttle, and pedals all register as their own devices. This is a problem in nearly every single game that I want to play. Black Prophecy, DogFighter, MinerWars, StarLancer, The Polynomial, X3, and X-Wing Alliance all require one single device. If I can't play these games with it, then the G940 is useless to me.So back to Amazon it goes. From here I'll either get a X52 Pro or a TM Warthog. I've done more research on CH Products, and I'm slowly getting convinced, but I'm not there yet. Its to the point that I'd probably choose CH over a X52 Pro, but I think I'd need more controls on the CH throttle with the space sims that I play._________________________

First off let me say that I have used several different flight controllers over the years and I found this one to be the best and most authentic I've used. It says that it was inspired by military and commercial aircraft and it shows. Unlike other flight control systems Logitech used heavy duty materials which gives the appearance and feel of the real thing. This combined with the force feedback lets you feel the g-forces and bumping you get in real battle. It has a split throttle for use with multi-engline planes, a big plus if you use MS Flight Simulator or the like. The throttle buttons light up and add just the right touch. Honestly I am very happy with this flight system and have not found anything else that comes close in comparison.

It took a while to review this setup because my desktop died right after I placed my order but now that I have desktop again all I can say is wow. This isn't some light weight toy, this is a serious set of flight simulator controls. The build quality is excellent and the weight and feel of the controls gives it a solid feel. I found the controls responsive and I love the force feedback feature.The downside is that you need a lot of room to store this collection.

This was great - - - When the description said "New" it really was. Came in the original unopened box from Logitech!

I honestly really liked this product however after some time the throttle unit began to malfunction and when i called logitech for a replacement they said they no longer make this product and there was no replacement available.needless to say i spent $400 on a stick i can no longer make use of. However if your good at electronic repair there are instructions on how to fix it yourself unless you have it under warranty which I don't.

I bought this to learn some about piloting a glider.The good first.It has force feedback on the Stick and to be honest, I found force feedback to be less than impressive.The Rudder pedals do not have force feedback which can be useful in a glider simulator. I found the centering spring on the pedals very forceful and finally removed it entirely.The system seems well thought out and has plenty of buttons etc.Now the not great:I found the software interface confusing and the documentation did not help me much.A few words from Logitec or Condor on how the interfaces work together would have saved me many hours of fiddling about.Of course, it all finally became clear to me but the experience was frustrating.To give an example: the defaults set on the device are so far from what is actually needed to operate correctly that it made wonder why they even bother with defaults?Other examples:The "Damper effect strength" appears to do nothing.The "Spring Effect Strength" and the "Centering Spring Strength" labels are easily misunderstood until I discovered that there is a balloon when hovering the mouse pointer over the control. The explanations in the balloon were very helpful.An explanation on how the special multiple keystroke programming works would have been helpful as well.My impression is that the system is well thought out but the software could be much less confusing to configure with only a few words of explanation.CJohnson

The controls are horribly cheap feeling. The pedals also auto-return to center which is insanely annoying. If you've ever been in any helicopter, you know that this doesn't occur. Bleh. I would rather spend my money elsewhere than have this cheap set.

Bought used but came to me with no signs of use. Works perfectly and as expected. Simply awesome joystick with GREAT construction (especially the rudder pedals).Would HIGHLY recommend for any novice or advanced user!

I've been flight simming since there have been flight sims and have had various control sticks, yokes & rudder pedals over the years but this is the first force feedback unit I've tried.I have to say that from the time I opened the box I've been impressed with this G940 setup. Throttle, Stick and Pedals all look and feel very nice. The stick and throttle units each weigh just under 3lbs, with the rudder pedals being almost 7lbs so everything wants to say put as you use them and I've not had them try to tip or move at all so far.Was happy to see the rudder pedal unit, in addition to rubber feet, had panels of flip down "teeth" to grip carpeting, nice touch. (see my uploaded photos)I'm still playing with some assigning and reassigning buttons to functions but have moved them around and find it to be fairly easy to do once you get the idea of using the profile software that comes with the system.You can also assign keystroke combos to buttons to cover anything you've done with the keyboard before.All this can take some time to get things assigned and tweaked to just how you like things.Latest driver download is a must (5.08 as of this date) and happy to say, Logitech is working on newer versions (we are told)as they get feedback from end users. I'm sure at one point you'll be able to download a ready made profile for any sim you care to use and not have to do the setup yourself, already a growing list. Although, you can still modify anything you want within a profile.Love the fact that it has 3 "modes" on a switch and you can have same buttons and controls do different things on each mode setting. Covers many aircraft and preferences that way... however, so far the Logitech profile software does not seem to let you use it for the second two modes. I hope they udate the software to cover this in the next version.One item that isn't ready to use yet is the color change feature on the 8 buttons on the throttle base, seems colors will be controlled by the flight sim software itself and not any Logitech/user settings, so as flight sim makers get onboard with the feature we'll have another great thing going. Note that the 5.08 download does have a "demo" program with it so you can see the buttons change color as a teaser for what's to come.I've used this unit for many hours now and I'm really enjoying it, I had been using a yoke for some time so getting back to a stick is fun, but do hope that Logitech will be making a FF yoke to plug into this system in the near future.Quite a treat to use controls that do not use pots and to know that there are no pots to wear out and cause spikes also.Make sure you follow the PDF instructions that come with the latest driver package and you will be up and flying in short order..I'm sure many have heard that the throttle will not give 100% or drop to idle, but it's just a matter of good calibration and changing the setting in your sim to be more sensitive than what you have been using with you older conrtols. For example, FSX default setting is 50% and needs to be 100% with no null zone.I've also heard some talk about the stick unit getting warm/hot, but have found nothing to complain about and temperatures of the stick base are just fine.I'm sure that as with anything that uses electric motors, the longer you run them the more heat they will generate, and also depends on if you are flying aerobatics nonstop or X-country flying, but I'm also very sure Logitech would not release a product with any kind of serious problem and I'm also sure they must have had them running for hours on end to test and research the flight system before shipping started.Remember, force feedback is only has good as what the simulator software outputs to the control stick so that can make a huge difference between what users feel. But, even if you disable FF within your software menu,(keeping the stick turned on) or your sim does not include any FF, this G940 will still give you great control, feel and overall performance just without the added bumps and shakes the sim puts out.See my uploaded photos with notes for more close up details if you need them.

After using the G940 for about a month now, I can say it's the best flight system I've ever used. I've used the MS Sidewinder FF Pro, Saitek X52, CH Flight Yoke and CH Rudder pedals. The build quality is superb, force feedback is awesome and overall system is top-notch. I like the idea of an intergrated flight system that Logitech came up with. I've have used the G940 with FSX, Wings of Prey, Il-2 with great success. One thing, if you use FSUIPC in FSX be sure to clear all of the axis settings in FSUIPC before setting up the G940. Then, either setup in the Logitech profiler software or inside control settings in FSX.The Joystick with force feedback, good button ergonomics and trim dials is incredidible. I read some review criticism about the trims not having detents, but I find this to be a none-issue. Using the X52 that had detents, I found the they could be a hinderence rather than an aid. While in flight, I can make slight adjustments to a trim dials on the G940 without the bump of the detent coming into play. Much better in my opinion.The Throttle with dual-engine contol abilities, two axis wheels (use for prop rpm, mixture, flaps or spoiler adjustments) and various buttons and 2 hat controls/buttons adds more control over flight systems of your aircraft. The eight 3-color LED buttons on the base of the throttle show potential for future programming. Too bad Logitech didn't write lighting control into profiler software, It would be fun to designate colors for different events, functions or status for the various avionics or control systems.The Rudder Pedals are well designed, also. Great feel, spacing and overall construction finishes up this trio of controllers.If you are considering buying a joystick, throttle or rudder pedals for your PC, you can be sure this HOTAS system will satisfy your needs. Logitech quality, along with ergonomic design and funtionality of the flight system meets my expectations, by far the best setup I ever used.I also have the Logitech G13 Advanced Gaming Keyboard that I use in tandem with the G940. There's a nice little free program that uses the LCD screen called "Speedbird" for FSX that gives real-time avionics and radio info while flying, cool. The G940 and G13 work so well together that after setting up the profiles on the 2 units I can fly without having to use my keyboard at all, real cool.Logitech hit a homerun with this one, it can be complicated, but after a small learning curve you can be flying with more control and enjoyable immersion than ever.

For evaluating these, I turned to my 14 year old son who is a guru of oth computers and flight simulators. I asked him to write up what he liked and do not like about them. Here is what he had to sa ...The Logitech G940 is nice but it not the best flight system I have ever seen, the main issue with it that I have experienced is that it is very difficult to set up. The primary reason for this is that it is viewed by a computer as 3 separate joysticks; this means you must assign everything manually. Furthermore certain video games cannot be played using this flight system because they support only one joystick, not the 3 this appears to be.However once it is set up it is an excellent system the force feedback (once calibrated) is very nice; it has a lot of customizable buttons. The only issue I have experienced when it is set up is the pedals have a sticky feeling and thus they must be set to have very little resistance when sliding this makes it harder to make fine adjustments when flying with the rudder pedals. Over all the G940 is a great flight system that has a horrible software setup.

I bought this from Amazon, took the super-saver shipping and received it two days later, on a Thursday evening. The packaging was more than adequate and the controller arrived without a scratch on it. I've now had an entire weekend to play with it so these are my thoughts.I run Windows XP and, like other reviewers, I ignored the CD and downloaded the latest drivers from the Logitech website. The programming software works ok, but is nothing special. My previous stick was the Thrustmaster Cougar and the flexibility of the Foxy software is in a different world to the Logitech one. That being said, however, I didn't personally use the vast majority of those features and instead downloaded other peoples' profiles from the web. Hopefully, the community will also supply a large number of profiles for the G940.There is a minor nuisance with the software in that you can't assign stick functions, program a profile or, in fact, start the software at all without the controller plugged in. This is inconvenient, but not a showstopper.The stick itself feels good in the hand and has a slightly rubbery feel to it. It has a larger footprint on the desk than any other stick I've owned which, presumably, is to accommodate the force feedback motors. The micro-stick on the joystick that looks like a POV-hat isn't, and the castle switch is instead used as the POV. Not sure that I particularly like that choice but the micro-stick can be programmed to act as a normal hat if needed. I've found I need to keep the dead-zone on the microstick axes relatively high to prevent unwanted inputs in flight as the calibration seems to drift slightly.The throttle unit also feels decent in the hand but isn't exactly going to win any beauty contests. The twin throttles separate easily and also recombine easily. The action is smooth and the friction adjustable. The lit buttons on the throttle base also function nicely as buttons and, I'm told, will function as working LED indicators in the future. One of my gripes with the throttle is about the R1 and R2 rotaries. It would have been nice to have had either a detent or at least some physical means of telling when they were centered without having to look at the painted line on them. But if you're picky about that you can always file a small groove into the center-point yourself.The pedals are lovely. Nice and solid, and wide enough for me. I'm 6"3 and find them pretty comfortable. I've never actually used any other sim-pedals before but I fly little single engine planes in real life so have a pretty good idea how rudder pedals should feel.I've been playing IL2 and DCS Black Shark and have been loving the force feedback. At the default settings the feedback is nice and strong, and the force can be ramped up or down in the Logitech software to suit your tastes. Using the trim function in Black Shark and having the stick actually stay in the trim position is fantastic and actually 'feeling' your warbird about to enter a stall in IL2 really helps with both my flying and my sense of immersion in the sim.The 3-axis trims on the stick are great in IL2 and incredibly useful. Once again, no 'feelable' center position but you can't have everything.One thing I did after a few minutes of using the stick was to put a little piece of tape over the "dead man's switch". This is a little sensor that detects whether the user's hands are on the stick or not and turns down the force feedback if necessary. It's a nice feature in theory but, especially in black shark with the stick in a trimmed position, I find the stick will jump around if I loosen my grip on the stick and no longer cover the sensor, so I took the decision to cover it up permanently. I just make sure to unplug the DC power to the stick if I leave it unattended.Overall, very happy with the product with just a small wish-list for extra software functionality.

To use the vernacular from my youth, "This thing is so dope." I took an introductory pilot lesson and learned that rudders(pedals) are really important for learning to fly. Who would have thought? Suddenly, my mouse/keyboard approach didn't feel like it was actually helping me learn. I bought this set up, and now flight simulators feel way better. The force feedback on the joystick is a nice touch - I haven't noticed anything on the pedals after a few minutes of flying around.The buttons are configurable, and the plastic cover for the glowing throttle buttons can be removed, allowing you to put in labels. It's a nice touch, and I appreciate it.The parts themselves feel really solid. I'm not afraid that I'm going to snap this joystick in half if I bank too hard.It seems like an investment, but this kit feels well worth it to me.

Big chunky eats a lot of desktop real estate, very kool!Why three stars?1. Pedals are to close together and should be width adjustable.2. Joystick grip should be longer. I don't have big paws and find the pinky button (S5)is just to close for comfort. The side thumb button (S4) could use a little rest above it to keep from being hit by mistake.3. Programing - this is not plug and play! You need to configure your games yourself. In FSX the pedals were set up, left pedal Y AXIS, right pedal THROTTLE. Very hard to taxi, take off, 4get-abaot-it.Logitech, to make it great, make this grown-up toy to fit a grown-up and add a basic set-up that works out of the box . I like to tinker and tweak but not for six hours on Christmas before I can play with my toys.Bottom line I do like it, could it be better? Yup but then so could I.

came with a factory defect and spent the 30 days of test at Amazon and Logitech contact me and ask me to validate the warranty sent Amazon an invoice in the box that contains a number of bar and as I have no box I can not claim my warranty, I feel ripped off on a technicality of both companies.Leonardo G. OlexynLo compre desde Argentina, y vino con un desperfecto de fabrica, ya paso los 30 d?as de reclamo en Amazon y me contacte con Logitech y para validar la garant?a me piden una factura que env?a Amazon en la caja que contiene un numero de barra y como no tengo la caja no puedo reclamar mi garant?a, me siento timado por un tecnicismo de ambas empresas.Leonardo G. Olexyn

I must say that I bought the Logitech G940 Flight System even after reading the Negative reviews.I did not make a mistake. If there is a better Flight control system out there I have yet to find it.Simple to use and set up. Just follow the instructions and you are there. I have had no problems with it as of yet, and I don't expect to in the near future. Well put together and very functional, and the force feedback is a blast as well.

This is simply an AWESOME joystick, throttle, and rudder set. It's very well made and you can tell, it's a quality product and the weight is very good so it doesn't slide all over the place. There is also plenty of help from the Logitech website as well. I highly recommend this to anyone who wants to get serious about flying a sim.

This review covers the G940 in general, but specifically talks about using it with Rise of Flight: The First Great Air War, a WWI combat simulator by NeoQB.Joystick:Love the shape of the stick, love most of the buttons, love the coolie hat altho I haven't found a use for it yet in Rise of Flight (would be nice to pan the in-flight map). The trigger is quality, and has an excellent feel to it -- more like a real trigger than some $0.43 plastic game controller button as on my previous stick (Logitech Extreme 3D Pro). The force feedback is actually way to strong for my liking at 100% setting (default), but I like it quite much at about 35%. The shaking when rolling a plane hard, touching the ground, or firing MG's is sweet. The pre-stall buffeting is invaluable when flying an aircraft on the edge of stall. Two of the buttons on top of the stick are difficult for me to reach, and I have probably average size hands (I'm 6' tall).Throttle:Very awesome. I'm using the right slide for throttle and the left for radiator. I'm using one of the rotary dials for mixture, and the other for zoom. There are still 4 buttons and two 8-way hats on the throttle that I haven't found a use for yet (TeamSpeak hotkeys maybe?). I'd like to setup the 8 programmable buttons at the base of the throttle to do gestures and flight leader commands, but they don't work in ROF out of the box. It will require a little tweaking in the Logitech software, I guess. In all, the throttle kicks ass.Pedals:Sturdy and accurate. I really wish that the tension dial increased the load on the centering spring so that the pedals snapped to center more readily when torqued down. Instead, the tension dial is basically just a "brake" which applies friction to the pedals throughout their range of motion. I don't always feel the center-detent indicating neutral rudder. This will take some getting used to, I suppose.Software:It kinda sucks in my opinion. I only messed with it for about 3 minute before determining that nearly everything I wanted to do could be easily accomplished directly in the game.Overall:All of the parts feel pretty well made. All of the cables are plenty long enough. I'm very happy with the G940, and I'm pretty sure I'll like it even more as I become proficient with it. Coming from a year or so of using a twist-stick, I really do have to learn how to fly all over again. But I already can't wait to take my SE5a up again, so that's a good sign!

The G940 is a potentially great product that is difficult to give a *star* rating to. The reason is that your experience with it is going to depend hugely on what games you use it with, what your expectations are, and how patient you are.If you are using this stick on a game that is programmed to use FFB effects and these effects have been programmed "correctly" (i.e. programmed in a manner specifically specified by Logitech for this stick), then you will probably have a wonderful experience. The trouble is, very few games are programmed to take advantage of this yet. So even though I believe the hardware on this system is top notch and capable of very high precision, its hard to know what will work well and what won't right now. FSX with the FS Force add-on evidently works great, for example, but other recent games such as DCS: Black Shark have poor FFB performance on this stick (other FFB sticks are said to be much better). Another very common issue with this stick is "slop", which is seen in many FFB games (including Black Shark), and is exhibited in EVERY non-FFB game. Basically, this means that the center 10 to 20 percent of travel in the middle of this stick has almost no center spring effect. This is a nasty, nasty issue that can evidently be overcome through software (either Logitech's for non-FFB games, or the game makers for FFB games), but to this date Logitech has not yet addressed this in non-FFB mode and this remains an unresolved issue for many FFB games. This is why, if you are expecting a great FFB experience out of the box, it will depend on games you own, whether the "slop" is an issue for you, and how patient you are to wait for Logitech and game makers to fix these issues.I have heard that other Logitech FFB stick have similar issues, but one thing they need to know loud and clear is that when you introduce a serious HOTAS product with this kind of price tag, issues that aren't a big deal in a lower-end stick are just not acceptable in a product targeted at more "serious" use.I purchased my first FFB stick (an MS FFB Pro) about ten years ago and it's amazing to me that the industry still doesn't have its act together. I enjoyed that stick for quite a while, but I stopped using that stick many years ago when I went with a full HOTAS setup, which up until now had no vendors offering a FFB solution. I had high hopes for the G940, but so far they are not yet met. I do have to say that the stick does offer other features that are quite nice and which overcome the FFB deficiencies fairly well for me. I am also going to hold out for improved software as Logitech is providing some strong hints that future revs of their profile software is going to offer some big improvements. Hopefully, this will be enough to push this stick to a solid 5 star rating.

I received my G940 system on a Friday. It was packed up and sent back to amazon by Monday morning. While I was impressed with the look of the system, the software was cumbersome to say the least and the quality was much lower then what I had expected. After spending an hour setting it up and updating the software and firmware, I loaded up FSX to try it out. This is where the problems got worse. Not only was the force feedback horrible, but the key assignments I had set in the G940 profiler didnt seem to take effect. The next day I had a good friend, who is an airline pilot, try it out and give me his opinion. In short he was not impressed. The force feedback he said was nothing like in real life and the software was hard to use. After hearing that I put it back in it's box and processed a return.To conclude, maybe I just received a defective unit, but I was much more happy with my $20 Logitech joystick then with this almost $300 HOTAS setup.

This is my fourth upgrade over the last 10 years. I think that after using this control system it is the most realistic. The new generation force feed back is incredible. No more trying to control what your flying when the force feed back kicks in. For the quality and the expertise that went into building this system, it was well worth the money.

I've gone through many other joysticks and the only one that can give me the feel of flying an aircraft or helicopter is the G940... Let's face it, there is no real fun without a force feedback device like this. I'm a real life pilot flying the Embraer 190 as a First Officer but before that (like all pilots) have to get the private and commercial licenses with the instruments and multi-engine ratings flying small airplanes like cessnas and pipers. The feel of small aircraft in FSX is close to the real thing (using FsForce2 add-on... the one default with FSX is not that great) in situations like the stall buffet, hardening of controls when flying at high speed, ground feel when taxing and on takeoff, touchdown, landing gear up and down, etc... Flying larger aircraft have a different feel that is simulated very well using this add-on too. When playing other games like IL-2, Wings of Prey, Rise of Flight, Strike Fighters 2 Israel/Vietnam/Europe and First Eagles 2 using a non force feedback joystick is BORING at times... but not with the G940... Now... talking about the features that this flight system has all I can say is wow... It has a lot of programmable buttons, hat switches and wheels... The feel when grabbing the joystick and throttle is great, it doesn't slip out of your hands like others... The profile manager is a must... First you have to clear all joystick association in the game (except axis) and then you build your game profile... Now with the new firmware (version 4.1 I think) and software (version 5.09) the feel and functionality have improved a lot.If you want the best of the best... If you want immersion... If you want to give new life to all your games... This is the product for you...

This product is a very well-built joystick. Many materials are made of metal instead of flimsy plastic, and finish quality is very good. I am using the rudder pedals on hardwood floors and have had no issues with slippage. I would have given this product 5 stars, but the programming for the buttons is overly complicated and relies more on trial and error than just setting your preferences and playing your game. I am currently using this to play MS Flight Sim X, with the intent to practice online radio chatter for my private license. I would consider myself very well versed in computer software and hardware, having built many computers and familiar with a lot of different genres of software and games. Programming the controller took just over an hour and is still a bit touchy. Otherwise, this product is great.

Logitech's G940 setup is, in my opinion, an outstanding setup. Anyone who's grown up with force feedback controllers understands that the current state of PC controllers is rather grim--since Microsoft's dropping of the Force Feedback line, and virtually all manufacturers of their counterparts to it, a sim-enthusiast's FF options are limited to less than a handful of models, not all of them particularly good. I used a Saitek Evo Force for a few years, until internal workings broke down and messed up the input signals.The G940, to my knowledge, is the only force feedback-equipped HOTAS setup, and it's worth recognition for that alone. The force is strong, and with sturdy construction, I don't have to worry about the stick falling over or anything like that. The throttle and rudder pedals are also quite good.However, while I could gush all day, I'm going to bring up my major complaints--minor ones for me personally, and not enough for it to cost a star in my review, but they may matter more to potential buyers- First, older games do not support multiple peripheral HOTAS setups. It's not limited to the G940, and there's really no way around it. If you want to play MechWarrior 4, you can, but don't expect to be able to use the throttle and rudder pedals unless you want to play around a LOT with Logitech's included software.- The eight LED-lit buttons, while capable of changing color, do not yet have software support to change color with their functions (say, to show that your gear is up or down). There's some work being done with this on the G940 forums.In any case, the setup is still outstanding when it comes to many more "hardcore" older simulations, and almost all modern games with controls you can change will support the three peripherals acting in unison. IL-2 Sturmovik: FB (and it's various spin-offs), Lock On: MAC, DCS: Black Shark, Arma II--they all work very well with the controller, but be prepared to spend a few hours tweaking with the controls if you're like me, looking for that sweet spot.I've had mine for more than a month now, and I've never had any mechanical problems. Occasionally, the joystick's FF motor can be heard "winding up", but that can be fixed simply by a light touch to the stick, and it's silent again. Like all FF controllers, it runs a bit warm. If you're looking for a HOTAS, this is a pretty excellent setup in my opinion.

Logitech is one step away from creating a great controller. All they would have to do is remove the Force Feedback, and substitute with a nice and adjustable spring system. They could use the savings to improve on some quality and usability features.I am sure that a lot of simulator fanatics like myself would not mind paying the same money for a simplified version of this stick.No more FFB motors, no more overheating and buzzing. A smaller power supply with an on/off switch, and detents for the trim controls would also be welcome.Sometimes less is more. They tried to cram too much for a certain price and as a result some features feel unfinished and even redundant.

Ever since I first booted up MS Flight Simulator 5, I dreamed of having a real flight sim setup. Now that I have one, I've booted up MS Flight Sim X again, and it feels like I'm playing it for the first time. If only Meigs Field were still around, sigh.Joystick:- Great build quality. Solid, heavy, attractive.- Like all the parts, it has hard points if you want to physically mount it to your desk or cockpit for ultra realism.- Trim. Most joysticks don't have trim controls, so this was a nice surprise.- All programmable buttons, which are nicely labeled and have an audible click when you press them.- The base is large enough to rest your arm on, yet still maintain control.- No "3D twist" like modern joysticks, though it's not really needed with rudder pedals, and is unrealistic anyway.- Two hat switches.- Force Feedback, something I hadn't used since the 90's, is welcome back. I missed it! It's adjustable as well, as everything seems to be with this setup.Throttle:- Nearly similar size to the joystick, a bit smaller.- All the buttons light up, and again, are completely programmable.- You can remove the caps for the buttons, allowing you to label them yourself.- Throttle splits so you can have independent controls, allowing you to control two engines. The lock is sturdy though, when you have them joined, there's no wiggling and you won't notice that they can split.- HAT switch, like on the joystick, an unexpected surprise.- Really more buttons (and on top of that, a mode shift which doubles all the buttons) than I'll ever use.Rudder:- Stainless steel footrests, with grooves for the arch of your foot. Fancy.- Adjustable tension, for those of you with strong legs, for sliding the pedals back and forth.- Underneath, carpet spikes! I don't have carpet but I thought it was a nice addition.- Toe breaks are great and work great.Overall I'm enjoying this setup, I've read reviews of the competition(CH and Saitek) and it sounds like they need to play a little catch-up. The force feedback (not available from CH), dual throttle (unique), and little extras like hard points, make this *the* top of the line setup.

Overall I found the G940 to be a good flight system and have been pleased so far. The joystick, throttle and pedals all feel solid and appear to be well built. They have large solid bases and so far have not moved around on me at all. The also have mounting points should you want secure them in place. The stick and throttle have a slight rubbery feel to them which is comfortable and provides a good grip. The software installed without a problem on my Vista 64 system and gets the job done for creating game profiles and configuring all the buttons.The joystick has force feedback and the default settings applied plenty of force. FF did seems to kick around more then I would have expected it to, but it also did match what was happening in Flight Simulator X. The motors can be a bit noisy at times for seemingly no reason. Nudging the stick stops it. The stick is comfortable but some of the buttons can be difficult to get to if you have smaller sized hands. I found the hat switch to be a little sensitive and had to adjust my dead zones a bit. There's also a sensor that detects when you are gripping the stick or not and adjusts the force feedback accordingly. I'm happy with the joystick, but I'm not sure I am sold on the force feedback yet.The throttle has a tension control and moves very smoothly. It's easy to detach/re-attach the dual throttle design. I wish the trim controls had some indent or other way of feeling the center point. The 8 lighted buttons work great and can be customized with your own labels. When supported they can change color to reflect the state of what they are controlling however there doesn't seem to be anyway of setting this in the Logitech software for games which do not support it however. Perhaps a future update will allow this.The pedals complete the flight system and really do impact the game experience . This is my first set of pedals so I have nothing to compare them to, but so far I have no complaints. The operate smoothly and feel good. The retractable rug grips are a nice touch.The Throttle and Pedals connect into the joystick so unfortunately you can not use them independently.

The Logitech Flight System G940 is a HOTAS system with rudder pedals included. I have been using it only with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004, so my comments would pertain if you play that game.The three components of the system, the stick, throttle, and pedals all seem high quality. They all feel sturdy and hopefully would last for a while. The force feedback of the stick is quite strong; for someone who had never used a force-feedback stick before, it did take some getting used to.Now the big issue that I had: configuring the system on your PC, which is not a piece of cake. Make sure not to install the software from the CD as it most likely is out of date; get it from the Logitech website instead. I could not understand the button assignment software (Profiler) that Logitech provides; I ended up having to configure all the buttons within the game instead. The rudder pedals are also toe brakes (meaning you can pivot the pedals to engage the brakes). Out of the box, they were way too sensitive. I literally would just let my foot come in contact with the pedal and the brake engaged. Also, the throttle had a serious issue in that when I had the physical throttle at idle (0%), the computer would think it is at 25%. When I move the throttle to full power (100&), the computer interpreted it as 75%.This is a widespread issue as it's also posted on the Logitech support forum. Fortunately, someone there posted a solution to configure the "null zones" of the controllers under the sensitivities screen in Flight Simulator. It works almost perfectly...almost, because the throttle now seems to have gone from a 25-75% range now to a 2-98% range instead. Oh well, it's close at least.Bottom line, I would say that this flight system is a good one, with high-quality build for hardware. Software-wise, it requires tinkering. Once you spend the time to configure and fine-tune the controls, it is a great system. However I have to take off one star since it isn't purely plug 'n play. It would have been nice to just plug the system in and go!

This is great! This is my first set-up with rudder controls, so it's made re-learning flight basics a priority. But this makes you really ramp-up your game. I'm playing IL-2 and it's made the game anew. It's very different when you don't have to focus strictly on controller/keyboard combo as much. One complaint is that Logitech didn't make a profile for this sim, so we're left to a lot of HOTAS programming.

After pulling it out of the box, I cannot even fathom the price tag first of all. The hardware value you get when pulling it out of the box with the initial feel is no doubt less than $200 and I am being quite fair. So I disconnected all my Saitek equipment the proflight yoke, rudder, quadrant and X52 pro thinking this will easily at least replace the X52 pro. So I wanted to start from scratch to build this as my primary controller...... because I have been soooo eager to have a force feedback since MS Sidewinder for almost 10 years. And to have a HOTAS force feedback, I was totally excited. This thing is the biggest disappointment I have almost ever encountered with controllers and peripherals in my life, especially for Flight sims and primarily FSX and DCS Blackshark. I cannot even believe how cheap the motors feel and how pathetic the accuracy is for surface forces. I am Private and Instrument rated in real life to help justify my comments. There are a few good points: It is easy to setup, the new drivers as of mid Sept09 are good (home built machine top of the line Vista64) and overall it is a compact setup that gives you a lot of functionality and many customizable inputs. But the MAIN reason I bought it was for the FF HOTAS....which is what the sim industry totally and completely lacks and totally needs. I was soooo excited to then become completely and absolutely disappointed within the first 15 minutes that I am almost angry about it. After using and feeling and trying to understand why in the world Logitech would throw such an awesome chance to compete against Saitek out the window with the most pathetic, inaccurate, cheap, FF Motor is beyond me. The bottom line is, I had it in the box and ready to return within 1 hour. I just cannot believe we (the hard core simmmers) cannot simply get a DECENT FF HOTAS or FF Yoke in 2009-2010. I thought ok Logitech...they have the ability and funds and research and industry leadership to put something out there worthwhile....I was totally fooled. I am now hoping Saitek will PLEASE come out with a good FF HOTAS or Yoke.

I am replacing my Saitek X52 with this system. It was definitely not a plug-n-play, but if you take the time and follow the directions, it sets up very nice! I would recommend downloading the updated program from Logitech rather than using the enclosed setup-dvd...it's a newer version and has some previous bugs worked out of it according to their website. Assigning commands to all the buttons was a breeze with the setup program, and there's plenty of buttons to use, with a few to spare! For FSX users, read the installed PDF file for a few helpful hints on fixing some thing that FSX assigns as default settings (only take an extra 5 minutes to work it out). The hardware itself is well manufactured and sturdy, although the throttle seems a little "gritty" at first, after some time it's getting smoother. The rudder/brake pedals are very cool and the added "teeth" underneath are great for keeping it still on the carpet. The force-feedback is a little hard to get used to, coming from a system without it, but it's growing on me. Every once in a while, when the game is idle, the stick vibrates a little bit. If you touch it it stops...I've read about this from another reviewer. I like the ability to place labels under the buttons on the throttle so i can remember what button does what. I have heard a few gripes about not being able to see the new labels under the "P1" "P2" etc buttons...EASY FIX! When you take the button cover off, the "P1" labels pop out also with a little help from a small screwdriver or knife, making it much easier to see the new labels. Anyway, my first day impression is this, I LIKE IT! It has tons of features and buttons and makes flying a little more realistic now, even helicopters (another complaint I heard previously). If anything changes in the next week or so, I will update this post. Ferg

It is very hard to give an overall rating to the G940 because I think it is better with certain flight sim software than others. I liked all the features of the unit but returned it after 30 days. I have flown flight sims for many years and tested many, many settings to overcome the issues that persisted but to no avail.The main reason for the return was an overheating problem. It became very hot to the touch. This caused the heat sensor to drop the force feedback after about 45 minutes of flying. This is not acceptable. The overheating problem is documented by others in the Logitech forums but is not universal.The second issue was the rudder pedals. No matter what settings I gave it, when I needed to input a small amount of rudder I received a large jump in control output causing the plane to yaw about 400% further than I wanted.The joystick did have a large deadzone but settings did improve that quite a bit. Then Logitech came out with a firmware upgrade that improved the deadzone but I believe hurt the overall feel of the stick.I really wanted to like this system as it does have so much going for it but in the end it just was hurting my ability to fly. For purpose of using it with IL2, I would give the unit I had 1 star.

Works great with my Windows Vista Ultimate PC for IL-2 and Dogfights. Good feel and easy to set up for these products. Have not been able to get the system to work well with my MS Flight Simulator 3.Recommend this product. It is a bit bulky so I did have to make a table to use the G940 with a place to store the rudder pedals under.

The first thing you notice is the overall build quality. These three large, powder gray and black units are sturdy. It's a Porsche: Sexy and well built.I have never before experienced the extra "reality" that a force feedback joystick can provide. I have been skeptical. It's a little disconcerting at first but as I found myself getting used to it, much to my surprise I came to appreciate the extra sense that it subtly provides. Of course, if you crash, it's not so subtle as it shake, rattles and rolls in it's death throws. The motor is powerful.The throttle has nice movement and is easily adjustable for one or two engines. There are plenty of buttons for assignment too. Not to mention 3 trimwheels. Nice.I flat out love the pedals. As a user of both of the other models on the market, there is no comparison as to look, feel and build quality. Toe breaks work well. If I nitpick, my one issue would be that the throw is a little shorter, front to back, than what I'm used to. But when you think about it, the throw on the clutch of a Porsche is shorter than that of a Volkswagen too.Pros: Just about everything. Looks good, feels good, responds well in the tight situationsNitpick Cons: The joystick is the power master and the throttle & pedals plug into it using serial ports. The pedals should be the power master since it is the most universal component (use them in conjunction with other equipment when flying GA or Commercial Boeing) and is on the floor...closer to the electric outlet.But then again the force feedback probably warrants this.Also, what's with the db9 serial connections? In 2009-2010? Why not USB? Again maybe a power issue I don't understand but it seems odd.Overall, I am delighted and impressed with this system. Logitech hit a home run the first at bat with the G940 Flight system

It feels like the joystick is a little sloppy in the dead center, but overall it's well built and feels good. I'm not so sure the software is all that good but I'm mostly going to use it with FSX and it works good in that.

If you are into flight simulator, this set makes the experience as real as you can get short of an actual plane. It does take up a bit more room than just having a joystick, but having the rudder pedals makes a big difference in allowing for realistic control of the plane. The force feedback in the joystick adds to the realism of the experience as well. It works well with Microsoft Flight Simulator.

Fit and finish is flawless. Has a really quality feel to it. The buttons, wheels, hats and switches all feel like good quality stuff. Everything fits in the box very compactly and I would guess that shipping damage may be a frequent complaint. Everything "feels" like premium grade. I really like the rudder pedals which I was worried would be weak. They are very sturdy. Nothing wrong with the external design I can see. Set-up was exactly as I expected. I ignored the CD that came with it and got the newest driver from the Logitech. I have the 64bit Version of Vista Ultimate. I experienced no problems with set-up. I was flying IL-2 within 30 minutes of the delivery of the thing. Standard HOTAS skills apply. Key mapping is tedious. You will have to map all games and sims. Force feedback works with gusto on the calibration app. It is pretty mild in game so far. I don't regret the purchase. I think this is an excellent first HOTAS/Pedals set. If anything changes in my opinion I will edit my review. Feel free to ask specific questions in comments.Cons so far: I can't seem to get enough travel with the rudder to match my old controller. I know It's a setting I am not seeing. Other than that, in just a few hours, I can't find anything to complain about. Note I purchased my set on Amazon. You know I have one. I have no agenda other than sharing info.##EDIT 10-22-2009 I am having a problem with the stick conflicting "in game" with my Microsoft sidewinder X6 keyboard. Chat is garbled.Macros will not work properly and it is a serious annoyance. The problem doesn't carry to a Saitek keyboard I have but I like my sidewinder. I have not found a workaround for this. I am also not likeing the .XML format for the HOTAS files.

One one hand, you're paying a pretty good sum. On the other, this thing is pretty freakin' awesome.I like: +the force feedback (jerky at times, and there is only feedback on the joystick), +the shape and feel of the controls, +the general craftsmanship.If I could tell past me to buy this or pass it up, I would say buy. It was worth it for me and my nerdy video game peripheral collection.I didn't like: -how long it took to set this thing up.

As a professional simulator engineer this system combines in one package the essential tools needed to fly fixed wing aircraft. The advertisements state that this system is good for all aircraft, I specialize in helicopters and would not use this system for them.Compared to other systems the price is well below the combined price of the competition. Having used all of the competing products at one time or another, Logitech got it right with this system. I missed the force feedback on my old flight stick and was actively looking for a true dual throttle when I found this system. The quality of this product is equal to the competition which says a lot considering the price. The serial connectors used to connect the pedals and the throttle to the flight stick were the perfect choice. Some reviews addressed this issue wanting each one USB instead. I personally like this feature because if I wanted to extend the length of the cables it's easy to with a db9 extender cable (not a serial extender cable, some connections are missing), try doing that with USB. Besides some computers have limited USB ports and you need only one USB port for the entire system. At least this will save the cost a USB hub. The only draw back to this system is the price of the initial purchase. However, the professional flight simmer can not fly with only one or two devices. To really enjoy the sensation of flight you need these three components, so save your money to get this system.

Provided prompt delivery and a prompt email description with details on product and how to.Thanks again!

I've used a number of joysticks of various types in the past, but never a flight system. Talk about sensory overload with all the combinations of buttons on the joystick and the throttle. I followed advice of other reviewers and downloaded the drivers fresh from Logitech and went through the configuration process. I had no issues installing it onto a Vista ultimate 64bit system.I will second comments about wishing for some pre-configured profiles for popular games for this device. Perhaps having a support area where profiles can be uploaded by users that others can download. The quality of the g940 components seem to be very solid. The feedback in the joystick was noticeably different than other Logitech joysticks I've owned, in a positive manner.Speaking as someone who has played a fair amount of games, but only a few flight simulators, having the g940 makes a world of a difference. I'd like to say better, but I am so immersed in the newness of the pedals and rudder in addition to the typical joystick, that I have to say it is just so different. I'm enjoying it.Overall, seems to be a great product that I have just begun to grasp how to use... and that's fun for me.

Hey Man this Logitech G940 really works Great. Its the first time I,ve ever used a rudder peddle and you can really tell the difference in flying using them. I would say to anyone looking to buy a "throttle, joystick, and rudder pedal" system, this is the way to go. Thanks to Amazon for a GREAT price.