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24.09.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
"Cadillac" of whole house surge protectors
I purchased a house in Florida last year with some new Samsung appliances and have been meaning to get a whole house surge protector. The amount of storms here are nothing like where I moved from in Virginia. Finally bit the bullet after researching whole house surge protectors and decided to go with this one. Highest protection ratings for the price, and it can take a few hits unlike the under $100 ones that are toast once they are used. Of course this isn't a direct lightning strike device but from what I've researched it will safely dump surges both from the supply and service side. Big surges are bad, but little ones you don't notice over time are just as bad to devices.
The unit is a lot larger than I thought it would be. I was thinking it was the size of a metal one gang outlet box you commonly see outside, but this thing is like one of those that Hulked up. It also is extremely well built feeling and looks like it's worth the money.
I'm no professional electrician but I can run lines for new breakers and do minor electric work no problem. If you have no issues opening a breaker panel and yanking the dead front off, this is a DIY job. It was a little interesting trying to find a clear answer on the best way to install these as it's not very clear, but the consensus I've read is "as close the main disconnect breaker, and before any other ones, if possible" and "the shortest lead wires to live-neutral-ground as possible". The length of the wires from the device to the breaker/neutral/ground is the most important item though, as the longer they are, the slower (by nanoseconds) the device handles surges. The device has about 3-4 feet of 10 gauge wire with it and anyone not doing the research would think installing it with that is fine when you'd actually be degrading your protection. Anything under 12 inches is ideal, with no longer than 18 inches. This is alluded to in the installation instructions but not specified.
I relocated my A/C compressor breaker below this as I have only that in the outside panel. Everything else runs off a feeder panel inside. My installation has this at the top most breaker position so that it is the absolute first thing from the supply side that would be hit. I also installed it so that all the lead wires are less than 4 inches long.
That being said, this is more of a peace of mind and insurance policy against electrical surges. You hook it up and it just sits there waiting to protect. The lack of any type of feedback that it's doing anything when it protects against a surge that doesn't overload it, as well as the price, is probably why people won't get one. I see the benefit in one, and coupled with high insurance deductibles if a surge did take out my 'smart' appliances and devices, I'd much rather dump the $250 now and know that I'm protected.
Others have noted the bright LED lights on this unit but I didn't see any pictures so attached my installation showing it at night. They definitely are bright.
Overall, happy to know my whole house is protected now!
The unit is a lot larger than I thought it would be. I was thinking it was the size of a metal one gang outlet box you commonly see outside, but this thing is like one of those that Hulked up. It also is extremely well built feeling and looks like it's worth the money.
I'm no professional electrician but I can run lines for new breakers and do minor electric work no problem. If you have no issues opening a breaker panel and yanking the dead front off, this is a DIY job. It was a little interesting trying to find a clear answer on the best way to install these as it's not very clear, but the consensus I've read is "as close the main disconnect breaker, and before any other ones, if possible" and "the shortest lead wires to live-neutral-ground as possible". The length of the wires from the device to the breaker/neutral/ground is the most important item though, as the longer they are, the slower (by nanoseconds) the device handles surges. The device has about 3-4 feet of 10 gauge wire with it and anyone not doing the research would think installing it with that is fine when you'd actually be degrading your protection. Anything under 12 inches is ideal, with no longer than 18 inches. This is alluded to in the installation instructions but not specified.
I relocated my A/C compressor breaker below this as I have only that in the outside panel. Everything else runs off a feeder panel inside. My installation has this at the top most breaker position so that it is the absolute first thing from the supply side that would be hit. I also installed it so that all the lead wires are less than 4 inches long.
That being said, this is more of a peace of mind and insurance policy against electrical surges. You hook it up and it just sits there waiting to protect. The lack of any type of feedback that it's doing anything when it protects against a surge that doesn't overload it, as well as the price, is probably why people won't get one. I see the benefit in one, and coupled with high insurance deductibles if a surge did take out my 'smart' appliances and devices, I'd much rather dump the $250 now and know that I'm protected.
Others have noted the bright LED lights on this unit but I didn't see any pictures so attached my installation showing it at night. They definitely are bright.
Overall, happy to know my whole house is protected now!
Скромный эксперт
24.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
No Doubt, this is the Best Whole-House Surge Protector Available
SEARCHING:
I went on a search to find whole-house surge protection products that would help protect the electrical appliances and other components and equipment in my home. I live in rural Missouri and our electricity provider is a Co-Op Utility that basically buys and resells electricity to customers outside the City grid. Our experience with this Co-Op has shown us that the power is not nearly as stable as "big-city" electric utilities. We regularly get power fluctuations, and occasional blackouts, brownouts, brown power, and rolling blackouts. The internal relays in my UPS for my computer go nuts (switches back and forth to battery power) about every other day due to power fluctuations. To complicate matters, we live in the mid-west where we get our fair share of lightning storms that are pretty spectacular to watch, but not so friendly on our home electricity.
OTHER PRODUCTS TRIED:
I tried competing products such as Delta, Intermatic, and a couple others including ones offered by the Co-Op utility, but I can't say that I have been very well protected. In the past year, a lightning storm out here took out my new refrigerator, my clothes washer, and my pressure tank for my well-water supply system. I just purchased a new HVAC heating and cooling system that I don't want to end up being fried, so I started my search.
With a lot of products out there, the worst thing is that you get a false-security that you are protected just because you have some box or device connected to your electric panel and so you feel like all your expensive electrical items are safe. And then there are those store-bought surge protection plug strips that have a "joules" rating and an "insurance coverage guarantee." These may start out fine and offer limited protection to whatever is plugged into them, but in less than a year out here where I live, they begin to fail because frequent spikes in the electricity cause a degradation in the surge protection. Plus, I have yet to hear from anyone who has successfully made an insurance claim and collected money for damage to their electrical items that were plugged into those type of surge protectors. I'm not saying that they never provide protection, just that they can wear out fairly quickly and you may not be aware of it unless you have one that has a protection indicator light. Also, the amount of electrical surge protection offered by those plug strips may not work well against an intense surge, even when the plug strip is brand new.
SIEMENS FS140:
I stumbled across the Siemens FirstSurge FS140 Whole House Surge Protection Device Rated for 140,000 Amps and it impressed me, at least on paper to begin with. It is a UL 1449 listed, Type 2 surge protective device (SPD) with a limited 10-year warranty for the FS140 and connected equipment in your home. It provides a 900-volt protection for line-to-line surges (L-L), and it provides a 600-volt protection for line-to-neutral (L-N), line-to-ground (L-G), and neutral-to-ground (N-G) surges according to UL 1449 3rd Edition, Voltage Protection Ratings. It has a voltage clamp-down response time of less than 1 nanosecond, which is extremely fast and needed for protection of your sensitive electronic equipment.
One of the things I like about this product is that it has 3 levels of protection status notification so that you always know whether your protected or not: (1) it has an audible alarm, (2) it has protection status LEDs, and (3) also has a red service LED (to notify you when the electric service or wiring is compromised). The device is well built with quality in mind; not a cheap plastic material that is used in some of the competing products. This device has a NEMA 4X indoor and outdoor rated enclosure. It's a very robust product. Its dimensions are roughly 8-1/4" long, by 3-5/8" wide, by 3" high. It has a threaded conduit connection port on the enclosure for 3/4" threaded conduit or connectors.
INSTALLATION:
For the installation of this device, a licensed electrician is recommended unless you are completely comfortable and knowledgeable with electrical panels, circuit breakers, and wiring practices for residential applications. A suitable volt meter is also recommended. I decided to call Siemens to ask for their input on the installation, and I was very impressed with the level of knowledge, expertise, friendliness, and willingness to help. The Siemens engineer (Ken) was nothing short of brilliant. His input allowed me to confidently and expertly install the FS140 so that it would perform the way the manufacturer intended.
PERFORMANCE:
After successfully installing the FS140, feeling very proud of its looks, and seeing the status lights showing correctly protected, I was still a little skeptical about how well the device would perform against surges. Coincidentally less than a week later, a thunder storm rolled thru this area and we had a resulting power failure from a lightning strike that was less than a half-mile away. After about 30 minutes the power returned (surges involved in that too), and the FS140 lit up showing a protected status. More importantly, nothing in our house including our new HVAC system was harmed by the electric fluctuations due to the nearby lightning storm. I not only feel protected, but this device has proven its worth and I am sure it will pay for itself considering the cost of repair bills from electric equipment and appliances that would otherwise be damaged from unprotected electrical surges.
Thank you Siemens.
EDIT:
[...]
The above link is a very good article on Whole-House Surge Protection Devices written by a third party reviewer where he evaluates a hand full of products. Although the Siemens product is not included in the review because it is a newer product than when the review was written, the Siemens FS140 outperforms all of those reviewed and would have come in first place. Also, I found in another third-party article that two-tiered protection where you have service panel surge protection and point-of-use surge protection (plug-strip type) is a very effective way to fully protect your electrical items. Most peoeple aren't aware that a fairly large percentage of damage also comes through phone lines and cable/satellite conections as well so anything connected to those (e.g. TVs, cable and satellite receivers, modems, routers, cordless and corded phones) are exposed without additional protection on the coax lines and modular phone lines.
I went on a search to find whole-house surge protection products that would help protect the electrical appliances and other components and equipment in my home. I live in rural Missouri and our electricity provider is a Co-Op Utility that basically buys and resells electricity to customers outside the City grid. Our experience with this Co-Op has shown us that the power is not nearly as stable as "big-city" electric utilities. We regularly get power fluctuations, and occasional blackouts, brownouts, brown power, and rolling blackouts. The internal relays in my UPS for my computer go nuts (switches back and forth to battery power) about every other day due to power fluctuations. To complicate matters, we live in the mid-west where we get our fair share of lightning storms that are pretty spectacular to watch, but not so friendly on our home electricity.
OTHER PRODUCTS TRIED:
I tried competing products such as Delta, Intermatic, and a couple others including ones offered by the Co-Op utility, but I can't say that I have been very well protected. In the past year, a lightning storm out here took out my new refrigerator, my clothes washer, and my pressure tank for my well-water supply system. I just purchased a new HVAC heating and cooling system that I don't want to end up being fried, so I started my search.
With a lot of products out there, the worst thing is that you get a false-security that you are protected just because you have some box or device connected to your electric panel and so you feel like all your expensive electrical items are safe. And then there are those store-bought surge protection plug strips that have a "joules" rating and an "insurance coverage guarantee." These may start out fine and offer limited protection to whatever is plugged into them, but in less than a year out here where I live, they begin to fail because frequent spikes in the electricity cause a degradation in the surge protection. Plus, I have yet to hear from anyone who has successfully made an insurance claim and collected money for damage to their electrical items that were plugged into those type of surge protectors. I'm not saying that they never provide protection, just that they can wear out fairly quickly and you may not be aware of it unless you have one that has a protection indicator light. Also, the amount of electrical surge protection offered by those plug strips may not work well against an intense surge, even when the plug strip is brand new.
SIEMENS FS140:
I stumbled across the Siemens FirstSurge FS140 Whole House Surge Protection Device Rated for 140,000 Amps and it impressed me, at least on paper to begin with. It is a UL 1449 listed, Type 2 surge protective device (SPD) with a limited 10-year warranty for the FS140 and connected equipment in your home. It provides a 900-volt protection for line-to-line surges (L-L), and it provides a 600-volt protection for line-to-neutral (L-N), line-to-ground (L-G), and neutral-to-ground (N-G) surges according to UL 1449 3rd Edition, Voltage Protection Ratings. It has a voltage clamp-down response time of less than 1 nanosecond, which is extremely fast and needed for protection of your sensitive electronic equipment.
One of the things I like about this product is that it has 3 levels of protection status notification so that you always know whether your protected or not: (1) it has an audible alarm, (2) it has protection status LEDs, and (3) also has a red service LED (to notify you when the electric service or wiring is compromised). The device is well built with quality in mind; not a cheap plastic material that is used in some of the competing products. This device has a NEMA 4X indoor and outdoor rated enclosure. It's a very robust product. Its dimensions are roughly 8-1/4" long, by 3-5/8" wide, by 3" high. It has a threaded conduit connection port on the enclosure for 3/4" threaded conduit or connectors.
INSTALLATION:
For the installation of this device, a licensed electrician is recommended unless you are completely comfortable and knowledgeable with electrical panels, circuit breakers, and wiring practices for residential applications. A suitable volt meter is also recommended. I decided to call Siemens to ask for their input on the installation, and I was very impressed with the level of knowledge, expertise, friendliness, and willingness to help. The Siemens engineer (Ken) was nothing short of brilliant. His input allowed me to confidently and expertly install the FS140 so that it would perform the way the manufacturer intended.
PERFORMANCE:
After successfully installing the FS140, feeling very proud of its looks, and seeing the status lights showing correctly protected, I was still a little skeptical about how well the device would perform against surges. Coincidentally less than a week later, a thunder storm rolled thru this area and we had a resulting power failure from a lightning strike that was less than a half-mile away. After about 30 minutes the power returned (surges involved in that too), and the FS140 lit up showing a protected status. More importantly, nothing in our house including our new HVAC system was harmed by the electric fluctuations due to the nearby lightning storm. I not only feel protected, but this device has proven its worth and I am sure it will pay for itself considering the cost of repair bills from electric equipment and appliances that would otherwise be damaged from unprotected electrical surges.
Thank you Siemens.
EDIT:
[...]
The above link is a very good article on Whole-House Surge Protection Devices written by a third party reviewer where he evaluates a hand full of products. Although the Siemens product is not included in the review because it is a newer product than when the review was written, the Siemens FS140 outperforms all of those reviewed and would have come in first place. Also, I found in another third-party article that two-tiered protection where you have service panel surge protection and point-of-use surge protection (plug-strip type) is a very effective way to fully protect your electrical items. Most peoeple aren't aware that a fairly large percentage of damage also comes through phone lines and cable/satellite conections as well so anything connected to those (e.g. TVs, cable and satellite receivers, modems, routers, cordless and corded phones) are exposed without additional protection on the coax lines and modular phone lines.
Скромный эксперт
24.09.2020
8/10
Оценка пользователя
Хорошо
Excellent Unit, Installation Could Be Easier
1) Specifications are excellent, especially for the money. Don't "save" $100 on a cheaper unit. They're definitely helpful, but not fast enough to prevent all the surge getting through and a big surge will smoke them. A larger unit is the way to go if you want to be "one and done".
2) It installs with a 20amp, 2 pole, (240v) breaker. This confusing since they stress it is 120v, but they mean 120v per phase, even though it is 240v between the phases. What you order is right for the US.
3) Installation is a bit of a hassle, if they would just put a straight male thread with a nut and a gasket it would be so much easier.
Installation:
a) The thread in the end is a 3/4 NPT TAPERED plumbing pipe thread. THE STRAIGHT THREADS ON AN ELECTRICAL NIPPLE MUST BE FORCED IN, resulting in questionable sealing and strength, as well as real risk of cracking the connection.
b) There is an option if you're a "do it right" kind of guy, which is a bulkhead fitting with a 3/4 NPT pipe fitting female thread, a big nut and a sealing gasket, available on Amazon.
c) The 1-3/8" hole required is a standard "knock-out" diameter. Knock-outs are pre-cut holes filled with metal held in with 2 small welds. Despite the name, DO NOT KNOCK THE PLUG OUT WITH A HAMMER AND SCREWDRIVER (don't ask how I know). This will bend the face and open up gaps in the larger holes. Pro-tip: Just drill two small holes (about 3/16") through the welds and the plate In the hole will be easily removed.
d) Put pipe dope or caulk on the threads of a 3/4" close pipe nipple and install in the unit and bulkhead connector.
e) Insert the bulkhead connector into the panel wall, it's a good fit, so wiggle it a bit as it goes it.
f)The nut has reverse, or left hand thread so tighten backwards.
g) You will be tempted to hold the unit while you tighten the bulkhead nut, but it will loosen the pipe thread because of the reverse threads. Hold the outside bulkhead nut to tighten the inside nut. If you can find a bulkhead with standard righthand-threads, it would be simpler.
h) I put a ring of caulk around the inside and outside of the hole, just to sure it sealed and prevent the nut from ever loosening.
2) It installs with a 20amp, 2 pole, (240v) breaker. This confusing since they stress it is 120v, but they mean 120v per phase, even though it is 240v between the phases. What you order is right for the US.
3) Installation is a bit of a hassle, if they would just put a straight male thread with a nut and a gasket it would be so much easier.
Installation:
a) The thread in the end is a 3/4 NPT TAPERED plumbing pipe thread. THE STRAIGHT THREADS ON AN ELECTRICAL NIPPLE MUST BE FORCED IN, resulting in questionable sealing and strength, as well as real risk of cracking the connection.
b) There is an option if you're a "do it right" kind of guy, which is a bulkhead fitting with a 3/4 NPT pipe fitting female thread, a big nut and a sealing gasket, available on Amazon.
c) The 1-3/8" hole required is a standard "knock-out" diameter. Knock-outs are pre-cut holes filled with metal held in with 2 small welds. Despite the name, DO NOT KNOCK THE PLUG OUT WITH A HAMMER AND SCREWDRIVER (don't ask how I know). This will bend the face and open up gaps in the larger holes. Pro-tip: Just drill two small holes (about 3/16") through the welds and the plate In the hole will be easily removed.
d) Put pipe dope or caulk on the threads of a 3/4" close pipe nipple and install in the unit and bulkhead connector.
e) Insert the bulkhead connector into the panel wall, it's a good fit, so wiggle it a bit as it goes it.
f)The nut has reverse, or left hand thread so tighten backwards.
g) You will be tempted to hold the unit while you tighten the bulkhead nut, but it will loosen the pipe thread because of the reverse threads. Hold the outside bulkhead nut to tighten the inside nut. If you can find a bulkhead with standard righthand-threads, it would be simpler.
h) I put a ring of caulk around the inside and outside of the hole, just to sure it sealed and prevent the nut from ever loosening.
Скромный эксперт
24.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
For those who don’t mess around.
Upon seeing this my electrician said: “Oh man, you aren’t messing around!“
(Side note: this thing is quite larger than it appear in the product photo- this is a serious piece of equipment.)
And he’s right. I live in FL and power is shoddy. Also, lots of issues with power coming back on after storms and giving appliances surges. FPL wanted to sign me up for some surge service at a pretty hefty monthly cost and it struck me as rather backwards to pay them to protect me against their own poor maintenance of their system. Anyhow, regardless even with this unit which is at the higher end of the cost spectrum, and including the suppressor outlets, over time there will be substantial savings as well as protection from internal surges which the FPL service does not address.
Most importantly I work from home on computer equipment costing more than my range, fridge or air handler. But this I feel is an essential addition for any homeowner, considering the cost of appliances and electronics hooked up in the average home.
So, I thought it would be pretty senseless to cheap out on a unit designed to keep my most valuable possessions safe and I went for the top shelf offering- this unit from Siemens.
That being said it should be installed in concert with surge suppressor outlets for best results.
Couple of things people tend to not realize are:
1. Most surges happen from inside of the home.
2. Most damage is not clearly visible or obvious but manifests in accelerated deterioration of your electronic items, compressor motors, etc.
3. An alarm indicator is priceless in that it lets you know when the unit needs replacing so you don’t go unprotected.
4. Most mass-market surge protector strips etc. are rather useless.
5. Having protection at both the panel and the outlet is essential in mitigating internal and external surges.
(I use the blue Hubble suppressors at key outlets in combination with this at the panel.)
I chose the higher rated Siemens unit because of my geographic location as indicated in the map from the manufacturer as well as a general desire to not have to replace damaged units endlessly. Consult their documentation or ask them directly to find out which model is right for you.
I did a lot of research and this series from Siemens seems to be the best option.
Of course, read the documentation thoroughly to ensure the best results and it would be wise to have this installed by a qualified electrician.
If mounting indoors there’s a plate available on amazon which I also purchased and would recommend. It’s on the pricier side at around $35 but makes the installation appear much cleaner while also maintaining easy access to the unit.
So I guess the question to ask yourself is:(insert Dirty Harry voice) do you feel lucky?
For me, I’d rather spend a couple hundred now than a couple thousand later.
(Side note: this thing is quite larger than it appear in the product photo- this is a serious piece of equipment.)
And he’s right. I live in FL and power is shoddy. Also, lots of issues with power coming back on after storms and giving appliances surges. FPL wanted to sign me up for some surge service at a pretty hefty monthly cost and it struck me as rather backwards to pay them to protect me against their own poor maintenance of their system. Anyhow, regardless even with this unit which is at the higher end of the cost spectrum, and including the suppressor outlets, over time there will be substantial savings as well as protection from internal surges which the FPL service does not address.
Most importantly I work from home on computer equipment costing more than my range, fridge or air handler. But this I feel is an essential addition for any homeowner, considering the cost of appliances and electronics hooked up in the average home.
So, I thought it would be pretty senseless to cheap out on a unit designed to keep my most valuable possessions safe and I went for the top shelf offering- this unit from Siemens.
That being said it should be installed in concert with surge suppressor outlets for best results.
Couple of things people tend to not realize are:
1. Most surges happen from inside of the home.
2. Most damage is not clearly visible or obvious but manifests in accelerated deterioration of your electronic items, compressor motors, etc.
3. An alarm indicator is priceless in that it lets you know when the unit needs replacing so you don’t go unprotected.
4. Most mass-market surge protector strips etc. are rather useless.
5. Having protection at both the panel and the outlet is essential in mitigating internal and external surges.
(I use the blue Hubble suppressors at key outlets in combination with this at the panel.)
I chose the higher rated Siemens unit because of my geographic location as indicated in the map from the manufacturer as well as a general desire to not have to replace damaged units endlessly. Consult their documentation or ask them directly to find out which model is right for you.
I did a lot of research and this series from Siemens seems to be the best option.
Of course, read the documentation thoroughly to ensure the best results and it would be wise to have this installed by a qualified electrician.
If mounting indoors there’s a plate available on amazon which I also purchased and would recommend. It’s on the pricier side at around $35 but makes the installation appear much cleaner while also maintaining easy access to the unit.
So I guess the question to ask yourself is:(insert Dirty Harry voice) do you feel lucky?
For me, I’d rather spend a couple hundred now than a couple thousand later.
Скромный эксперт
24.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
The installation of unit was relatively easy, I needed to add a 2-pole-20 Amp circuit ...
I bought this surge protector after researching the selection and installation of a whole-house surge protector. The specifications for Siemens FirstSurge are impressive, and I chose to install the FS140 at my house. My selection was based on the map of the US (from Siemens’ web site) that shows that for my area of the country the potential for thunderstorm activity is high and thus recommends the 140000 Amp protection of the FS-140.
The installation of unit was relatively easy, I needed to add a 2-pole-20 Amp circuit breaker to my electrical panel and wire the FirstSurge per the included instructions; the load wires (black) to the breaker(s) and the neutral (white) and ground (green) to their bus bar. My electrical panel has two bus bars for the neutral and/or ground, but the two bus bars were shorted together as manufactured. The electrical code for our area allows attaching the neutral and ground wires to the same bus bar for the main branch panel (not the sub panels, if any). Since the illustration for installing the FirstSurge shows the neutral and ground wires are connected to their dedicated bus bars, I was concerned that the surge protector would not work for my house. So I contacted Siemens’s tech support and was pleasantly surprised that my call was answered immediately. The first person I spoke with transferred my call to a tech who did not know the answer to my question. He transferred my call to their electrical engineer who was very knowledgeable and assured me there would be on issues with my installation. I have installed two FS-140; one for each of the two service panels in my house.
One feature that I like about the FirstSurge is that in case of a failure, there is an audible alarm to warn you that the unit may need service or replacement. When the unit is working normally there are two green lights, but if one light is out, indicating loss of protection, the alarm sounds. Other surge proctors have indicator lights, but no audible alarm when a light goes out to indicate the protector needs to be replaced. The literature included with FirstSurge states that the surge protector contains circuitry that will disconnect its surge protection component at the end of its useful life. The FirstSurge is warrantied for 10 years against failure, so I assume its normal useful life exceeds 10 years.
The installation of unit was relatively easy, I needed to add a 2-pole-20 Amp circuit breaker to my electrical panel and wire the FirstSurge per the included instructions; the load wires (black) to the breaker(s) and the neutral (white) and ground (green) to their bus bar. My electrical panel has two bus bars for the neutral and/or ground, but the two bus bars were shorted together as manufactured. The electrical code for our area allows attaching the neutral and ground wires to the same bus bar for the main branch panel (not the sub panels, if any). Since the illustration for installing the FirstSurge shows the neutral and ground wires are connected to their dedicated bus bars, I was concerned that the surge protector would not work for my house. So I contacted Siemens’s tech support and was pleasantly surprised that my call was answered immediately. The first person I spoke with transferred my call to a tech who did not know the answer to my question. He transferred my call to their electrical engineer who was very knowledgeable and assured me there would be on issues with my installation. I have installed two FS-140; one for each of the two service panels in my house.
One feature that I like about the FirstSurge is that in case of a failure, there is an audible alarm to warn you that the unit may need service or replacement. When the unit is working normally there are two green lights, but if one light is out, indicating loss of protection, the alarm sounds. Other surge proctors have indicator lights, but no audible alarm when a light goes out to indicate the protector needs to be replaced. The literature included with FirstSurge states that the surge protector contains circuitry that will disconnect its surge protection component at the end of its useful life. The FirstSurge is warrantied for 10 years against failure, so I assume its normal useful life exceeds 10 years.
Скромный эксперт
24.09.2020
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
This device is a 'killer app' that should be in every house w/ sensitive electronics
I put this device in after I discovered that a failed deep packet inspection network security appliance (NSA) that failed had actually not been working optimally for 2yrs or more. I live in So Cal so we don't get a lot of lightning activity, but we do get wind storms that cause some havoc with power line network causing pulses & ringing of high voltage in the grid. The NSA failed the morning after a windstorm with lights On/Off pulsing etc. Next morn it was non-functional. It was warranty replaced under support contract. Exactly same device had 4X throughput with all same settings. The 25Mbps I had before shot up to 100Mbps. Even though the old NSA was functional, it had been 'singed' internally by excess power and worked poorly at 25Mbps for at least 2yrs.
I searched and found out about the Siemens First Pulse product line and had my wife get it immediately with her Prime acct. Installation is straightforward for the electrical DIY type. I installed it the day it came.
As trace & junction sizes are reduced in the evolution of computing devices, hardware inherently becomes less tolerant to excess power. The NSA device being damaged but still functional is one of the most difficult things to diagnose. It's really a rather frightening concept to those in geekdom.
Power spikes and pulses aren't going away. The First Surge product is a heavyweight employed right at the service entrance. The little Class 3 'toy' surge suppressors that plug into the wall alone aren't enough to protect sensitive electronic devices.
FWIW, the form factor of all the Siemens First Surge devices is the same; about the size of slightly skinny brick and the cost isn't a big difference between the smallest FS60 and the biggest FS140 (~$80 difference). I went straight to the big one; it's cheap insurance.
I searched and found out about the Siemens First Pulse product line and had my wife get it immediately with her Prime acct. Installation is straightforward for the electrical DIY type. I installed it the day it came.
As trace & junction sizes are reduced in the evolution of computing devices, hardware inherently becomes less tolerant to excess power. The NSA device being damaged but still functional is one of the most difficult things to diagnose. It's really a rather frightening concept to those in geekdom.
Power spikes and pulses aren't going away. The First Surge product is a heavyweight employed right at the service entrance. The little Class 3 'toy' surge suppressors that plug into the wall alone aren't enough to protect sensitive electronic devices.
FWIW, the form factor of all the Siemens First Surge devices is the same; about the size of slightly skinny brick and the cost isn't a big difference between the smallest FS60 and the biggest FS140 (~$80 difference). I went straight to the big one; it's cheap insurance.
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24.09.2020
10/10
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Великолепно
It is nice that there is a soft
Had a licensed electrician install 2 of these, one on each panel, after an indirect lightening strike caused thousands in damage. He thought they were well made and he chose them according to their specifications. We are hoping not to ever find out if they work :) but are using them as another layer of protection in case we do. These are a "one and done" kind of product. If there is sufficient power surge or nearby strike they will need to be replaced. It is nice that there is a soft, green light continuously on where they are installed that serves both as a kind of night light in a dark area and as an obvious visual they are still standing guard.
Скромный эксперт
24.09.2020
4/10
Оценка пользователя
Ужасно
Arrived without the manufacturers original packaging......
Arrived without the manufacturers original packaging (just some plastic ribbon with "120" wrapped around it) and photocopied documentation. It may be just fine but this caused me to have concerns that it has either been used, rebuilt, or remanufactured.
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