Инструменты Wiha 39971 MicroBit ESD: смешанная комплектация (65 предметов в коробке) — подробный обзор, плюсы и минусы на основе 148 отзывов
6.9/10
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рукоять для бит
оснастка
биты
головки со вставками
аксессуары
держатель для бит
удлинитель для бит
бита-адаптер для торцевых головок
количество бит
43 шт.
количество торцевых головок
15 шт.
ширина кейса
200 мм
высота кейса
100 мм
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Астероид-6RMXP
26.06.2023
10/10
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Великолепно
Отличная модель
- + Качество отличное, комплектация - на любой вид есть свои биты, кейс для хранения металлический, внутри есть даже что то типа доп. ложемента что бы содержимое не гремело и не вываливалось в случае переворота\падения
- - Сам механизм закрытия кейса при переноске может открыться, но это не столь критично
ZimZamTheFlimFlam
01.02.2023
8/10
Оценка пользователя
Хорошо
I've been using this set for two years now. It replaced a similar bit driver style set from Harbor Freight (of all places) that lasted me years previous. The difference was stark as you might imagine. I have a few consumer sets as well to compare to, such as a Kobalt and iFixIt branded kits and another one I can't remember. I work in IT and handle a lot of assets for corporate lease which leads to plenty of need for good bits. This kit is useful for anything that fits the bits of course, gun work being another standout.
I'll start with the pros and here is the most critical part: the bits included with most kits on the market, especially in (US) stores, are just cheap garbage compared to the quality of the bits in this set. This is definitely what you are paying for. If you've had enough reason to use tiny "micro bits" with true consumer level cheap kits then eventually you will likely grow frustrated. That frustration may turn to outright anger at ill fitting or twisting torx bits. Do you know how easy it is to strip a tiny torx screw AND the bit itself into a vortex shaped mess? Hate jamming a tiny hex bit that gives 1/3 of the way before it engages because of the crap tolerances? Tired of pressing down a lot to prevent stripping on a delicate part knowing you're playing with fire? If so you'll probably appreciate this kit. It is exactly as advertised. The bits are exactly the right size, they dont flex, and they work perfectly. Its nice when your bit is the constant and all you have to worry about is the fastener itself rather than balancing between the faults of both. For complex stuff with fine threads and aluminum that bends if you yelled at it too loud using bits of this quality allow you the best chance to disassemble and reassemble properly, likely being no worse for wear. I just recently fully disassembled a Nvidia 2080ti FE with 77 screws and nested screws, standoffs, torx, Phillips, sockets, the works and with this kit I was entirely confident in the whole process and it went back together as if it was never apart. A cheaper set would be a relative nightmare for that.
I almost entirely use the ratchet. I dont use the handle at all. I just pull the rachet off the top of the shaft to use it as a regular screwdriver when needed. The tolerance between the shaft and ratchet "cup" is nearly perfect so there is no discernible wobble. This allows me to apply pretty serious but localized force while minimizing risk to the surrounding area. The ratchet itself is decently made and adequate for the job but the bit quality and shaft tolerance does all the real work.
All in all its worth every penny. When I first bought them I thought I was really paying an obscene markup for something that will probably be a little better. In reality you're getting something significantly better than the norm... at an obscene markup, but one I'm much happier to pay.
Now for my negatives. This is a lot of nitpicking but it adds up for me.
The case is kind of neat in a 70's-90's mechanic's style metal sturdy case, but I wish it weren't. Its possible to have a sturdy plastic case that doesn't suck. My main reason for this is its much more likely for this set of tools to be in contact with other things that dont regularly have heavy metal objects around them. For me, I will toss this into my backpack or into an on-site tech bag where they may be other things inside I dont want this little metal brick slamming against, or scratching.
Inside the case there is a very useful picture of the case layout... crappily glued to the top of some foam that presses against the bits. Its such a weird afterthought and "badly designed" as much as a piece of paper can be.
The ratchet requires two pieces to assemble to function. There is no reason for this except to accommodate using the handle with the same shaft. The handle itself just needs to be redesigned and have the shaft and adapter welded together. It doesn't sound like something that would be annoying but that extra piece to assemble is oddly annoying when you do it over and over. I just leave the adapter on the shaft at all times and have since pressed it into the foam to make a new cutout for the whole assembled piece. The screwdriver handle is the weakest point of the kit as it actually requires an excessive amount of force to install the shaft or insert a bit and its just not a great design.
The ratchet is good and clearly overbuilt for the size of the bits but the reverse switch needs to be fenced in or recessed much better than it is. Unless you were a child your whole hand is going to cover the switch and you will inadvertently reverse directions often enough to be annoying.
On the subject of being overbuilt it would have been really nice to see a larger set of socket bits. One or two ticks higher and you'd get a LOT more use out of those and the ratchet can handle it just fine. I'm not talking big sockets here but they cut it off too low in my opinion. And on the same subject I wish they included one size larger philips and flat blade so the kit stands on its own more.
And finally I wish the bits were better marked. Its not necessary but I'd have gladly paid another $10 or so for them to be more visible and I think most people would too after seeing it in person. The old school feel and look definitely translate to the markings and its not a great thing.
I'm going to try a Wera set someday to see how I like their markings, ratchet interface, overall packaging, and more usable socket range. But I'll never get rid of this set, its paid for itself many times over and despite all the crying I can do all that takes second place to the quality of the bits themselves - which are fantastic. I hope this helps someone. I rarely am this opinionated about something on Amazon but I feel like this product is worth the look
I'll start with the pros and here is the most critical part: the bits included with most kits on the market, especially in (US) stores, are just cheap garbage compared to the quality of the bits in this set. This is definitely what you are paying for. If you've had enough reason to use tiny "micro bits" with true consumer level cheap kits then eventually you will likely grow frustrated. That frustration may turn to outright anger at ill fitting or twisting torx bits. Do you know how easy it is to strip a tiny torx screw AND the bit itself into a vortex shaped mess? Hate jamming a tiny hex bit that gives 1/3 of the way before it engages because of the crap tolerances? Tired of pressing down a lot to prevent stripping on a delicate part knowing you're playing with fire? If so you'll probably appreciate this kit. It is exactly as advertised. The bits are exactly the right size, they dont flex, and they work perfectly. Its nice when your bit is the constant and all you have to worry about is the fastener itself rather than balancing between the faults of both. For complex stuff with fine threads and aluminum that bends if you yelled at it too loud using bits of this quality allow you the best chance to disassemble and reassemble properly, likely being no worse for wear. I just recently fully disassembled a Nvidia 2080ti FE with 77 screws and nested screws, standoffs, torx, Phillips, sockets, the works and with this kit I was entirely confident in the whole process and it went back together as if it was never apart. A cheaper set would be a relative nightmare for that.
I almost entirely use the ratchet. I dont use the handle at all. I just pull the rachet off the top of the shaft to use it as a regular screwdriver when needed. The tolerance between the shaft and ratchet "cup" is nearly perfect so there is no discernible wobble. This allows me to apply pretty serious but localized force while minimizing risk to the surrounding area. The ratchet itself is decently made and adequate for the job but the bit quality and shaft tolerance does all the real work.
All in all its worth every penny. When I first bought them I thought I was really paying an obscene markup for something that will probably be a little better. In reality you're getting something significantly better than the norm... at an obscene markup, but one I'm much happier to pay.
Now for my negatives. This is a lot of nitpicking but it adds up for me.
The case is kind of neat in a 70's-90's mechanic's style metal sturdy case, but I wish it weren't. Its possible to have a sturdy plastic case that doesn't suck. My main reason for this is its much more likely for this set of tools to be in contact with other things that dont regularly have heavy metal objects around them. For me, I will toss this into my backpack or into an on-site tech bag where they may be other things inside I dont want this little metal brick slamming against, or scratching.
Inside the case there is a very useful picture of the case layout... crappily glued to the top of some foam that presses against the bits. Its such a weird afterthought and "badly designed" as much as a piece of paper can be.
The ratchet requires two pieces to assemble to function. There is no reason for this except to accommodate using the handle with the same shaft. The handle itself just needs to be redesigned and have the shaft and adapter welded together. It doesn't sound like something that would be annoying but that extra piece to assemble is oddly annoying when you do it over and over. I just leave the adapter on the shaft at all times and have since pressed it into the foam to make a new cutout for the whole assembled piece. The screwdriver handle is the weakest point of the kit as it actually requires an excessive amount of force to install the shaft or insert a bit and its just not a great design.
The ratchet is good and clearly overbuilt for the size of the bits but the reverse switch needs to be fenced in or recessed much better than it is. Unless you were a child your whole hand is going to cover the switch and you will inadvertently reverse directions often enough to be annoying.
On the subject of being overbuilt it would have been really nice to see a larger set of socket bits. One or two ticks higher and you'd get a LOT more use out of those and the ratchet can handle it just fine. I'm not talking big sockets here but they cut it off too low in my opinion. And on the same subject I wish they included one size larger philips and flat blade so the kit stands on its own more.
And finally I wish the bits were better marked. Its not necessary but I'd have gladly paid another $10 or so for them to be more visible and I think most people would too after seeing it in person. The old school feel and look definitely translate to the markings and its not a great thing.
I'm going to try a Wera set someday to see how I like their markings, ratchet interface, overall packaging, and more usable socket range. But I'll never get rid of this set, its paid for itself many times over and despite all the crying I can do all that takes second place to the quality of the bits themselves - which are fantastic. I hope this helps someone. I rarely am this opinionated about something on Amazon but I feel like this product is worth the look
(mild) Bill - HW Test Engineer
01.02.2023
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
This kit has the small bits you need for taking apart a laptop computer. Need a tiny Torx bit? It's here. Need a tiny Philips, say #000? Yup, it's there.
I'm "that guy" in the lab who always has the right tool for a given situation. "Yes, you may borrow it, but you must bring it back."
I recently gave a kit to a friend who a) always returned my tools, and b) who was taking a new position managing a data center. .. .. .. just in case. ;)
I'm "that guy" in the lab who always has the right tool for a given situation. "Yes, you may borrow it, but you must bring it back."
I recently gave a kit to a friend who a) always returned my tools, and b) who was taking a new position managing a data center. .. .. .. just in case. ;)
Gregma80
01.02.2023
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
So to sum this up I’m a longtime Wiha fan. They make great tools and some of the best steel used on their bits. However it shows... *country of origin:China* and I contacted KCTools about this. The KCTOOLS rep live chatted with me and told me it’s a German/Vietnam made product... which it was to be fair. So after telling him this he told me he was going to change the listing and HE DID?! But, a couple years back Wiha had moved production to China and with supposedly the same specs and materials as their German branded Wiha. However, we all know China is a quantity over quality and Wiha cleverly announced a “collaboration” with China on a Xiaomi Mijia 24/piece precision screwdriver set. To be fair the set is only $29 (at this time) and I can tell you those bits are NOT Wiha grade. Look at the reviews and you’ll see broken bits and all. My point is after telling the rep this (because I am going to send these back and look into Felo) he insisted on changing the Amazon listing *country of origin:Germany* which is simply it true! This is why I’m leaving a poor review. I can’t (and won’t) speak on the quality because I haven’t used them yet and to be fair the bit set seems to be of quality steel. The ratchet is nothing special and the tolerances seem off. But the ESD seems to be the PICO quality finish I have on an older set. My point being is I don’t know why they’re not being upfront about this? I’m sure people will do their own “due diligence” and see for themselves. But, I refuse to pay $100 for a Chinese manufactured set trying to pass for German made. I got news for everyone Wiha is now MADE IN CHINA... and this listing should not say Germany for Country of origin. But the rep said he was changing it from China back to Germany?! *Poor form KCTOOLS*
Edit: So I have a Kershaw Cryo that needs the torsion bar replaced. Problem is I already chewed up two brand new T6 bits. One was a Walmart special (no surprise there) and the other was from an iFixit kit. Well the Wiha bits did there job and performed as I hoped they would, breaking the blue loctite with relative ease. I couldn’t move one of the screws even a little with the other two bits... so the bit quality is definitely there. I lost a good portion of my tools due to a rather nasty breakup so I have some catching up to do, but I will be keeping this set unless something drastic happens. At least the bits were properly heat treated and to be honest that’s really what I bought this for along with the 1/4” adapter. So I’m going to raise my rating because the tools did their duty and that’s all that matters in the end.
Edit: So I have a Kershaw Cryo that needs the torsion bar replaced. Problem is I already chewed up two brand new T6 bits. One was a Walmart special (no surprise there) and the other was from an iFixit kit. Well the Wiha bits did there job and performed as I hoped they would, breaking the blue loctite with relative ease. I couldn’t move one of the screws even a little with the other two bits... so the bit quality is definitely there. I lost a good portion of my tools due to a rather nasty breakup so I have some catching up to do, but I will be keeping this set unless something drastic happens. At least the bits were properly heat treated and to be honest that’s really what I bought this for along with the 1/4” adapter. So I’m going to raise my rating because the tools did their duty and that’s all that matters in the end.
sidney p childress
01.02.2023
8/10
Оценка пользователя
Хорошо
Love it!
Todd Mitchell
01.02.2023
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
I work at a tech company that makes gas purification and delivery systems. Generally the amount of space available in the electronic control enclosure and the plumbing enclosure is only the amount necessary to fit the required components. So, a small ratcheting driver is a necessity. Surprisingly, finding a half way decent one is quite difficult. Most of the time the bits are made with very cheap metal with "generous" tolerances so that they either don't fit quite right, or they twist due to torque applied. Now granted these bits are small (1/8"-1/4" mostly) so some twisting is to be expected, but these ones I have torqued a fair amount and have yet to see anything of the sort. More importantly is the tolerances on the bit size are exact. They fit into fasteners perfectly so have much smaller risk of stripping a hex, torx, or phillips screw and less chance of sliding out of a flat one. The only issue I've had is the selector on the back can be moved fairly easily when you don't want to, and if you aren't paying attention you can keep going on the thing and wonder why it isn't tightening, when the selector has switched to loosen. A very minor problem that doesn't warrant affecting overall satisfaction. There is a normal driver handle with extension that are really great too. Had it for a few months now and I would absolutely recommend. Don't do what I did and try to use a cheap one that only leads to frustration. Glad I found this one eventually and will not use anything else. It's near perfect.
A. REEVE
01.02.2023
10/10
Оценка пользователя
Великолепно
A fabulous quality, compact kit of micro bits and holders that will likely perfectly satisfy the situation. NOT the cheap nasty bits that can ruin the miniature fasteners in your equipment.
Definitely worth it.
Supplied in a sturdy metal box, with an ideal easy to use organiser insert.
WIHA is a great brand. I love this kit.
Definitely worth it.
Supplied in a sturdy metal box, with an ideal easy to use organiser insert.
WIHA is a great brand. I love this kit.
TechSpec
01.02.2023
6/10
Оценка пользователя
Плохо
So, I am a bit disappointed as I love Wiha's small electronic tools. I received this set and the hex bits look like they had a casting problem? It appears they have noticeable divots in the ends of the hex bits while others just look concave on the bottom. I'm not sure how this is going to affect the bits over time, but I'm sure it will eventually as far as integrity.
Also, something that concerned me a bit was that the faceplate on the ratchet has a gap at the top that is a little under 1 mm. I often stick these small ratchets in my pocket when working and the gap will introduce lint and all kinds of dirt, effectively reducing the life of the internal. It's not a big problem for me as I'll most likely take it apart and use a lubricant with PTFE, but not everyone wants to do that, nor should they have to.
Ultimately, I issued this 3 star conclusion only because Wiha has a great durability/sturdiness track record as far as the past tools that I've purchased. And I'm sure this one specifically is a freak accident as well as I've also bought tools from their recent stock on different websites that have no physical defects at all and work like a champ. The two start knocked off are because of this products defects only.
Edit: 5/18/2022
I have included a picture of the ratchet with out the faceplate on, along with the debris that made it's way inside before my use. Today is the first day of use, and the ratchets bidirectional toggle started to stick. There were about 4 pieces of debris stuck in the toggle switch.
Also, something that concerned me a bit was that the faceplate on the ratchet has a gap at the top that is a little under 1 mm. I often stick these small ratchets in my pocket when working and the gap will introduce lint and all kinds of dirt, effectively reducing the life of the internal. It's not a big problem for me as I'll most likely take it apart and use a lubricant with PTFE, but not everyone wants to do that, nor should they have to.
Ultimately, I issued this 3 star conclusion only because Wiha has a great durability/sturdiness track record as far as the past tools that I've purchased. And I'm sure this one specifically is a freak accident as well as I've also bought tools from their recent stock on different websites that have no physical defects at all and work like a champ. The two start knocked off are because of this products defects only.
Edit: 5/18/2022
I have included a picture of the ratchet with out the faceplate on, along with the debris that made it's way inside before my use. Today is the first day of use, and the ratchets bidirectional toggle started to stick. There were about 4 pieces of debris stuck in the toggle switch.
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Характеристики Wiha 39971 MicroBit ESD: смешанная комплектация (65 предметов в коробке)
| Общие характеристики | |
| Оснастка в комплекте : | биты, головки со вставками |
| Аксессуары в комплекте : | бита-адаптер для торцевых головок, держатель для бит, удлинитель для бит |
| Количество предметов : | 65 шт. |
| Кейс (сумка) в комплекте : | да |
| Количество в упаковке : | 65 штук |
| Дополнительно | |
| Толщина кейса : | 20 мм |
| Ширина кейса : | 200 мм |
| Высота кейса : | 100 мм |
| Вес набора : | 0.5 кг |
| Биты | |
| Посадка бит : | 1/4" |
| Количество бит : | 43 шт. |
| Тип бит : | для точных работ |
| Биты подробно : | SL1.8 x 28 мм, SL2.0 x 28 мм, SL2.5 x 28 мм, SL3.0 x 28 мм, SL3.5 x 28 мм, SL4.0 x 28 мм, PH000 x 28 мм, PH00 x 28 мм, PH0 x 28 мм:, PH1 x 28 мм, HEX 0.7 x 28 мм, HEX 0.9 x 28 мм, HEX 1.3 / 0.050 x 28 мм, HEX 1.5 x 28 мм, HEX 2.0 x 28 мм, HEX 2.5 x 28 мм, HEX 3.0 x 28 мм, HEX 4.0 / 5/32 x 28 мм, HEX 1/16 x 28 мм, HEX 5/64 x 28 мм, HEX 3/32 x 28 мм, HEX 7/64 x 28 мм, HEX 1/8 x 28 мм, HEX 9/64 x 28 мм, T3 x 28 мм, T4 x 28 мм, T5 x 28 мм, T6 x 28 мм, T7 x 28 мм, T8 x 28 мм, T9 x 28 мм, T10 x 28 мм, T15 x 28 мм, T20 x 28 мм, PL1 x 28 мм, PL2 x 28 мм, PL3 x 28 мм, PL4 x 28 мм, PL5 x 28 мм, PL6 x 28 мм |
| Шлицы бит : | Torx (T/TX), Torx Plus (IP), крестообразный (PH), прямой (SL), шестигранный (H/HEX) |
| Торцевые головки | |
| Количество торцевых головок : | 15 шт. |
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