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Великий Garmin часы!!!
Идеальный часы!!
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Гармин fênix 6 про
Идеальный
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Исходящий от Феникса 5X и Apple серия Смотреть 4, я разочарован с точностью частоту сердечных сокращений.
I'm an Ironman triathlete and outdoorsman. I've been seeking a fitness tracking watch for the past year to replace my Apple Watch Series 4 since it is inadequate is some areas: in particular, battery life and the lack of an always on display. This review has been ongoing and I keep updating it with more experiences. I am definitely disappointed with a few very specific and important features. I will elaborate in an update section.

I had previously tried three Fenix 5x models. All 3 had an optical HR sensor that was atrocious and I thought it could be due to a faulty unit, but it's just their inherent design. You can google this independently and conclude the same. The sensor was always delayed during cycling workouts and failed to reflect my heart rate as it dropped when I rested from intervals.

The Fenix 6 is a substantial upgrade in every category compared to the 5X. However, my focus of this review is on the heart rate accuracy and if it is better than the 5x. I tried this unit out because Garmin redesigned the sensor for the new Fenix 6 models. I can tell you from personal experience that it is better at locking into a HR when compared to the 5X. It is still delayed when compared to the apple watch series 4 and 5 or a wahoo tickr chest strap. It usually takes about 10 seconds after a 5-10 minute warm up to properly lock onto a HR. All is good once it locks in and it’s usually only 2-10 seconds behind a chest strap and at most, 2-3 beats off from the chest strap but it actually matches it most of the time. It's excellent at steady state activity like longer runs and indoor cycling on a trainer but that seems to be about it. The biggest problem that persists which was present in the 5x, is the inability for this device to accurately display your heart rate as it ascends or descends if you quickly change intensity, or come to a stop to rest from any type of interval workout - or any workout for that matter. Especially outdoor cycling because of the vibration in the road. In other words, if say, you were to do a quarter mile hill sprint on a bike, there is never a time when I stopped that the watch was able to reflect the descending heart rate properly. It would usually hit 165 then, it would slowly drop and get stuck at 110-120bpm, when in reality compared to the chest strap or apple watch series 4, my heart rate was at 75-90bpm or less. I sometimes would wait up to seven minutes before the watch would reflect the lower heart rate. This renders any short duration activity useless. It distorts the displayed training effects (if the workout was primarily aerobic or anerobic once you hit stop) and turns your workouts and post workout training effects that are displayed into garbage because your average heart rates are entirely thrown off usually 20-30 beats too high. This renders the device useless for anyone who weighs interval training heart rate data heavily in their training program. Unless you spend another 75-100 for an external strap which should not be necessary at this price point.

I want to make this very clear: the Apple watch 3 and beyond have been scientifically researched in a few medical journals and have been shown to be the most accurate wrist based optical heart rate sensors when compared to Garmin, fitbit and one other brand I cannot recall. This is extremely troubling to me because Garmin advertises itself as being the gold standard for fitness enthusiasts. This is a major shortcoming that cannot be overlooked in a nearly one thousand dollar time piece geared to help you train more efficiently. For that reason, and that reason alone, I would not recommend it. Garmin's main competitor in this space (Apple) can make a product that yields accurate data for 50% the cost.

However, I will say that the watch has many other features that are outstanding including its display which is remarkably easy to see in the light and 60hrs of GPS tracking for long overnight backpacking trips or endurance races/workouts. Based on my current experiences, the navigation ability is good and its usually about 50 feet off from my target destination which is impressive.

It's tough to swallow buying a watch this expensive and it not being at least as good as a year or older Apple watch heart rate sensor. It just isn't. It is terrible for elliptical and hiking workouts and takes 5-10 minutes to lock in and usually fails to at all because of the arm movement, it is just terrible during hikes. I think it is because when you select the hike activity, some power saving features are occurring in the background which affect HR. I tested this by doing hill runs where my HR would hit 140-150bpm. The watch never showed above 120bpm.
It works best when on a stationary bike or jogging. It's proven to be useless in every other category. This was never an issue with my series 4 apple watch. Garmin engineers, you guys have got to step it up with the HR tech or HR algorithms in the software because everything else is built on the heart rate results you collect. I'd rather have less features in this watch and have the ones you do have be on point over anything extra. ESPECIALLY HR accuracy.

As I said, you can spend another hundred dollars and get their triathlon heart rate strap but oh my, you're now spending over a thousand dollars to make up for a fault in the product which at this point, shouldn't exist to this extent. A little faltering is bound to happen with PPG technology, but this problem existed in the 5x and continues to exist in the 6. I would not recommend this product if you want it for accurate heart rate data to help you train more efficiently unless you only do steady state activity. In reality, it is not for the hardcore HIIT athlete and even outside of those hardcore training sessions, it can't hold its own against the Apple Watch 4 or 5. Truly disappointing.

UPDATE 10/22/19: I wanted to be fair here and say that I did end up returning this watch, but the other features of it are so good, that I eventually sold my Apple Watch 4 and bought another 6x saphire pre-owned. I’d say even though the HR sensor is bad for most workouts, it’s quite good at steady state stuff like running and indoor cycling on a trainer. The HR sensor is a little faster than the 5x plus was, but that's not saying much. The wrist band is better than the 5x but too heavy. Getting the perfect fit is better than on the 5x plus but it's a bit annoying. It’s either too loose and wobbles when hammering during a fast run or tight as hell. So look out for fabric sport nylon band loops when they come out.

I saved about $260 by buying it preowned. If you can get the Saphire 6x pro model for $650-$700 or less I would say, it COULD be worth it. Spending that much still hurts BUT the display is truly amazing coming from an Apple Watch. No, it’s not a beautiful high res OLED but it’s way more functional and practical. As are the buttons. The touch screen on the Apple watch sucks so much for swimming, and hikes or camping trips when you have your gloves on. There's also no more wrist flicking at 20mph bike rides so if you ride, way safer than the series 4 apple watch. Plank sets are easier too. or anything really, I was surprised by how many times I was doing that flick to turn on the apple watch screen. Looking back on it, it was so dumb and slowed me down every time. The watch is more than capable of weeks of usage. I workout every day for 45-60 minutes: running, lifting, cycling or hiking, and can go over two weeks without charging this thing with pulse Ox off and only measuring it at night when I sleep. It looks way cooler than other GPS watches (not my main priority, but worth mentioning because style is a factor.) it’s extremely durable with the saphire and DLC coating although I scratched the bezel DLC coating at work rubbing it against a metal door frame.

I wrecked my Apple Watch by rubbing it against stuff and had to get a replacement. Deep scratches formed on the screen. It sucked. That will not happen to this watch's display. that gives me peace of mind. it’s a bit lighter than the 5x plus, but with the band still heavy. You’ll feel it.

Overall, at the $650-$700 or less price point, it's potentially a worthy competitor to others in the industry. I would not get the 6. The screen is quite small coming from a series 4. I also tried the six.

The 1.4inch size is really nice on the 6x pro and saphire. In summary, At the current 850 + tax. Still no way unless you’re looking to splurge and be disappointed by many of the key aspects you would not want to be disappointed by. Think of all the other cool effective equipment you can buy for that! I bought a wahoo kicker for less! That made me a better athlete. Not the sexy watch. It’s good, but not that good. Wait for a sale or buy pre-owned and you’ll be much happier. as I said a millions times, I got a good deal because I offset the cost by selling the Apple Watch for what I paid for it new, and then buying pre-owned. Out of pocket at that point was pretty low. That’s my final verdict and recommendation to you. I’m always going to laugh a little at myself for spending as much as I did on this watch because they’re obsolete in a year and we use them less than our phones and spend just as much on them. Aside from the stuff I mentioned, it is pretty amazing for navigation in the woods. I didn’t even mention how you can have it create a route for you for a run in an area you’re not familiar with. It can do these out and back runs or back to start routes if you get lost. You can view the map as you run and the route is highlighted in blue it's about 50 ft off actual distance or location when in wooded areas. It's the jack of all trades and master of none other than navigation. im still learning it and will keep updating it as I explore what it offers.

UPDATE: 11/28/2019: Another thing worth mentioning, The power meter accuracy on this also is off. I calibrate it before every ride with my Quarq meter on my tri bike and when compared to my Wahoo app which is paired to my Kickr, it's always 20-30 Watts off. It makes no sense to me because I thought it would be projecting the numbers from the Kickr. This watch sucks at data collection in that regard. I really can't emphasize that point enough. It is terrible with HR accuracy. I've gone as far to shave my arm hair to see if it would improve it (It might have in the smallest way, but I didn't do a scientific study to see.) and it still is awful. It has never been accurate on any hikes. It only works on steady state indoor rides and runs that are also steady state. It's a good watch for it's display, battery life and wilderness GPS tracking capabilities. It isn't for the athlete unless you're willing to accept a lot of compromises and also buy the external HR strap and again, accept that your bike wattage will be off even after calibration, and your HR will rarely ever be displayed accurately during workouts because of the massive delay. I'm constantly coming back here to update and lower my review of this. It's just revealing all of the ways in which it isn't that great.

Update 12/11/19: OK, I've had this watch for several months now. The overall verdict is this: I still would likely not recommend it. The HR accuracy has improved after a few updates. It is good for running outside if you run steady or do tempo runs. It is garbage for all interval workouts. It is good on the bike indoors in the same way and bad in the same way. It is utterly, and I mean, utterly useless for hiking. I went as far as shaving the hairs off of my arm to see if that would improve the accuracy. I spoke with Garmin and they were kind enough to send me a replacement device but they are either falsely advertising the watch's functions or there is a serious bug in the hiking activity app. The HR never, and I mean never cracked 130 during my hardest efforts on hikes. As an experiment, I put the watch into hike mode and ran all out for one mile. My HR is usually 169-179 BPM for an all-out effort like that. Both the old Fenix 6 and replacement showed 90-111 BPM most of the time. I also did the same test inside on my bike trainer all out for 10 minutes but in the hiking app. You will never get accurate HR data on your hikes. I did notify Garmin of this.
This is a bug or this is deliberate to save battery life. I'm not sure which it is. They do know, but I do not know if they'll ever fix it. I do not know what else to say but you have been warned about that. I'm likely going to sell it. I've been trying to make it work for me for months and the garbage HR accuracy during hikes and incorrect power output on my rides make it kind of useless. I'd say if the HR accuracy was better, it still would not be good as an apple watch 4 or 5 but all the other features would outweigh things but for god's sake, that's a major problem and it needs to be addressed and it hasn't been since I've had this thing.

In conclusion, it's very clear to me that this is a watch that has too much in it and the focus is far too broad for success to exist in any one specific area other than navigation, an easy to read display, and battery life because of its size. Their companion app is also excellent but not as helpful as you'd think because your HR data will be inaccurate during the majority of your workouts.
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Для меня идеальный спортивные часы, но большой и тяжелый
После десятков лет Polar (RS800, V800, Vantage V) с разочарованием Vantage V уже через 11 месяцев закончились, я перешел на Garmin (Forerunner 945). Это показало мне, что может позволить себе изощренные спортивные часы. Но оптика мне не понравилось. Поэтому я переключилась на Fenix 6Х Sapphire.

Я купил у местного дилера они Спорт - это сделало меня значительно лучшее, чем все предложения Интернет-магазинов. Я использую часы для пеших прогулок, ходьба, альпинизм и Велоспорт. Для измерения пульса, которые я использую во время прогулки/ходьба чаще всего интегрированное измерение пульса. Точность этого достаточно. При езде на велосипеде (горном велосипеде) я прибегаю на мой Polar H10 пульс пояс - это обеспечивает значительно более точные данные.

Что меня поражает, что тот же GPS чипсет используется, на мой взгляд, лучшую производительность по сравнению с GPS Forerunner 945 - хотя. Для меня индикатор высоты акклиматизация является очень интересным значением. К сожалению, не все еще из моих приложений для 6Х Обновлено - мне не хватает в настоящее время еще Komoot. В качестве Обходного пути я ввожу маршруты, чем о GPS Garmin Connect. Маршрут намного приятнее, чем при 945er. С одной стороны, из-за значительно больший дисплей, с другой стороны, из-за возможности карты в контрастные цвета для отображения.

Я рекомендую каждому информация от DC Rainmaker - он показывает все реальные возможности очень точно в своем Обзоре.

Примечание: 6X-это уже гораздо тяжелее 945er. В нежные женские руки<пожалуйста, на всякий случай предварительно протестировать.br />
обновление 9.9.2019:
Вчера я с коллегой GPS с точностью Polar V800 (это по сравнению один из самых точных часов в настоящее время). В пеший тур по км отклонение было 40m. В 15 км на горных велосипедах 70м. Это может произойти сейчас от часов, но именно при езде на велосипеде не всегда одинаковый след. Но что существенно: Garmin имеет в отдельных точках значительное отклонение на карту - но, видимо, очень хороший алгоритм коррекции маршрута. Когда я имел Garmin GPS и ГЛОНАСС активно, полярные уровень только GPS (в высшей Точности). Итак, вы понимаете слабые стороны фишки Sony, но для оценки это не актуально. Которые предназначены Polar Vantage V имел отклонение от 80м ходьба при и 250 м при езда на велосипеде - однако водитель имел небольшой ошибки вождения - это сделало из ~150-200м.
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Переход от Fenix3 на HR Fenix 6x Pro Saphire
я перешел от Fenix 3HR на Fenix 6x Pro Saphire. Хотя 6-й серии такой же большой, как де 3er она действует больше, но из-за длительного время автономной работы и большой дисплеи я решил все же для X и не жалею. Следующие пункты нарушили меня на 3 серии:

1. Производительность
при переходе от 3rd party watchfaces в меню или Виджетов он имеет около 2 сек. длилось. в 6 серии нет задержки

2. Пульсометры
пульс нож 3er только "оценочной железа". независимо от того, в каком виде спорта, полны значения рядом с ним. Я не сделал Vergelich с помощью нагрудного ремня но значения 6 серии смотреть "надежно" из

3. Уведомлений
3er показывает на смайлики только ?. На смайлы 6шт объявления

4 может. GPS
Если человек не двигается 3er совокупности джиттера и, следовательно, расстояние значения уже не использовать. Прием в горах, особенно плохо во время Восхождения. На 6 серии я в этом еще не Vivoactive 3 но проверено моей женой-это уже лучше, чем 3er таким образом, 6-й серии-это, конечно, не хуже :-)

Fenix Которые 6 хоть и грешно но дорого.
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Fenix 6Х Sapphire
Absolutely Amazing Super Smart Watch. I have it linked up to my Samsung S10+ and my Laptop. It tells you everything you could ever possibly want to Know with regards to Sport activities.
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Garmin Fenix 6шт сапфир плюс гарнитура.
Часы это удалось и я могу рекомендовать это хорошо. Они оснащены верхней и расширяемый с помощью приложений. Цена обосновались далеко вверх. Очень хорошо аккумулятор.
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Продуманный Тренажер
Длительное время автономной работы, разумное управление, очень быстрый GPS-поиск. Цена (пока еще) достаточно высока.
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Быстрое Доставка, Топ Продукт
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Супер часы, но в отношении двух вариантах дисплея...
Супер часы с бесконечными возможностями, хотел только на (как минимум.) два разных дисплея видов показателей, которые при Fenix 6 (x) сапфир в обращении. В зависимости от личного вкуса, однако они отличаются уже очень!

Я четко придерживаюсь слева вариант (угол обзора значительно стабильнее), но также хотел бы дать предпочтение, кто-то с правами.
Только как Информация для всех желающих, для этого есть на форуме Garmin Большой дискуссии. Правый вариант отправила обратно.
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Значительно больший экран при тех же габаритах
Меня уже есть Fenix 3, и 5 плюс. Напротив 5plus около 30% больший дисплей. Очень хорошо читаема. Остальные функции остались такими же. Время работы от аккумулятора прибл. 20Tage .
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Комплексная Тренировка Данных!......длительное время работы и как отель.
....Молоток Часы! .... не только тренировок!,,
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Лучшие часы в своей категории
Пришел в идеальном состоянии, в срок и по форме. Это лучшие часы в своей категории. Кроме того, с лучшими отделки и более стильная, чем предыдущие. Рекомендуется 100%.
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Часы потрясающие. Очень хорошо закончили . Автономию-длинный и супер полный
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Отличный сервис
Пришел в отличном состоянии и в срок !! Версия Fenix 6x saphiro лучше всего марки garmin.
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Очень хорошо часы

То,
Лучшее, что сделали в последнее время
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Отличный продавец, и на отправке товара. Очень в соответствии с
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