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cxy

09.01.2021

10/10

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Straightforward (but not easy) repair for leaky Grohe Ladylux Plus faucet
It's pretty awesome that Grohe engineered their expensive faucets to use a relatively inexpensive one-piece replacement part to address leaks. My 10+ year old Ladylux Plus started leaking from the handle and googling the symptoms brought me to this cartridge on Amazon.

The replacement cartridge was less than 10% of the cost of the original faucet and took me about 90 minutes to replace. Most of that time was trying to figure out how to remove the handle so I could gain access to the cartridge. If I had to do it again, it would probably take 10 minutes.

Once you get the faucet handle off, replacement is relatively straightforward. Getting the faucet handle off mine was not easy. There is one screw to undo, but the handle was stuck firmly in place even after removing it. I ended up manhandling it off using a mallet to bang firmly but gently on the handle (not sure this helped that much) and screwdriver as a lever (this did the trick). I wedged the shaft of a flathead screwdriver between the short tail side of the handle and the cylindrical metal casing and levered it until it finally came off. As I worked on it, the entire old cartridge started to come apart inside. This disturbingly increasing looseness felt like I was breaking the whole faucet, but once I got it apart I realized that the old cartridge was taking the brunt of the force.

I've attached a photo showing how the Ladylux Plus handle connects to the cartridge. The new cartridge is already installed. In my particular scenario, I had to re-use a few external fittings from around the original cartridge - the white collar around the cartridge as well as a plastic fitting that connects the metal elbow that the handle screws into. There's some gunk on the metal elbow where it attached to the handle - mineral deposits or corrosion that formed over time which I think made the handle hard to separate from the elbow. There were some leftover unnecessary parts that came in the new cartridge box that I didn't need.

Protips:
Cover your drain before unscrewing anything. You don't want to lose any parts down there.
Take several sharp photo of the old cartridge and fittings as you take it out so you can recall how parts were oriented.
Set aside plenty of time to work on this. If you're not mechanically inclined, invite a friend to hang out with you who is.

All in all, I'm glad I was able to replace the cartridge and not the entire faucet. I do wish I had a photo like the one I'm attaching to guide me - all the diagrams I found were helpful but not literal enough to hint me into how much force I ended up needing to apply to get the handle off.
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RH

09.01.2021

8/10

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Save a small fortune by replacing a leaking cartridge
This Grohe cartridge replaces an older Ladylux design that had three separate black rubber seals that disintegrate over time. The older seals should be discarded when replacing with the 46 048 000 which has an integral silicone rubber seal. As others have noted, the most difficult aspect of replacing the cartridge is removing the handle which may have been in place for 20 years. Care must be taken to avoid marring the housing and handle. Once the retaining screw was removed, I was successful in removing the handle with a plastic wedge that was notched to fit on either side of the handle when it is in the middle position. Gentle tapping on the wedge ultimately induced the handle to back off. Wooden wedges could also be used. If in the process of changing the cartridge the fixture loosens from the counter top, do not forget that the Ladylux has the simplest tightening mechanism of any fixture. The spout that holds the spray head can be removed from the base exposing a tightening nut. No basin wrench needed.
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David L. Charlesworth

09.01.2021

2/10

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Ужасно

Missing key part that you need to repair your faucet
There is a part that connects the cartridge to the handle that is NOT included in the kit (and that doesn't seem to be available from anybody). The instructions say to take the part off the old one - there is no way you can get that part off of the old cartridge unless you have a practically new unit, and if your unit is new you won't be replacing the cartridge anyway.
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Cycling Through Life

09.01.2021

10/10

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Perfect replacement for my Grohe Bridgeford faucet
I noted that there was a slow leak coming from my six year old Grohe Bridgeford faucet, from right around the handle area. I did a google search and found that this was due to the cartridge, and that it needed replacement. Further googling I found that the cartridge part number for this faucet is 46048000.

This particular faucet model is discontinued but replacement parts are still available. I found a plumbing supply shop that had the part, but on a whim, I decided to check Amazon.. lo and behold, here it is and at half the price of the plumbing supply shop. The relatively low price was a surprise, given that the cost of the faucet was an arm and a leg.

This is an OEM replacement unit from Grohe, so no issues here. For the most part, the cartridge is exactly the same as the one I am replacing. However, my faucet had a rubber O-ring while this replacement model had a plastic sleeve. No problem - I just reused my old O-ring.

Replacement was very straightforward, and I took care to take my time. I didn't take photos but I should have in order to remember the exact positions of the handle before I started. But that only slowed me down by a minute or so. You will need a phillips head screwdriver, and a 2.5 mm allen wrench. You will also need to shut off the water that feeds into this faucet. I estimated it took me 30 minutes (just being extra careful and examining each piece, testing the fit, positions, cleaning the reused parts, etc.) total. If I had to do it again, I could do it in 15 minutes now that I know what to do.

I have another one of these faucets in the house, and if I was smart, I should buy another unit for that faucet, just in case (which at some point, the cartridge will need replacement in the future due to daily usage).
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everhunt

09.01.2021

8/10

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Hard to get old parts out but flow is best ever now.
Old 20 y old Lady lux kitchen faucet was severely corroded. Difficult to get the lever off and the old cartridge out but I was successful after reading the reviews and watching YouTube videos. 9/32 socket essential. Can’t understand why the lever attachment isn’t included in the package. That’s the most important part of the cartridge attachment. Couldn’t find it online. I used old attachment but it was corroded and partially digested by CLR but it worked. Used an improvised plastic bottle (old medicine bottle sealed with gorilla tape and drilled to allow small funnel) to soak the outflow ports with CLR with good results.
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Liam Sarsfield

09.01.2021

10/10

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Великолепно

A Great Valve Made Better
I replaced a leaking cartridge after 12 years of very heavy use in a Ladylux kitchen fixture. This is an improved unit and clearly the folks are Grohe are big on product improvement. This is a breeze to install - 10-14 minutes is all you need. This cartridge goes into many units so you might wind up with extra parts. The price of the unit is very fair considering the excellent reliability. Couldn't recommend a product higher.
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Mr. Wheaten

09.01.2021

10/10

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Excellent product, installation was straightforward
Just when I thought I'd have to buy another faucet, Grohe saved me with excellent support. A call to their support number got me the part ID, and they said "Just buy it on Amazon." Also, excellent support in the Amazon Q&A by the manufacturer's support tech, Cody S. The part went in easily on my 1999 Europlus faucet and after I snugged everything up, the faucet works very smoothly, like new. No leaks either! Very pleased with part and support from Cody S (manufacturer's tech support for this part on Amazon).
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DF

09.01.2021

10/10

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but I found several useful videos on youtube that showed how to disassemble the ...
bought this to fix a leak at the handle on my grohe kitchen faucet. The instructions included weren't much help, but I found several useful videos on youtube that showed how to disassemble the faucet and replace the cartridge. I am now leak free and it feels like a brand new faucet.
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CJK

09.01.2021

8/10

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Not the same color - and install info
The part worked well, but the one I received was not the one pictured. It is the blue version - not sure what the difference is. Note that there are no instructions in the package - you will need your original manual or can look it up on the Grohe website. One important install note that is not provided by Grohe - Guide and Slide ring install - place it on the cartridge such that the tabs will be at the bottom of the cartridge (first part to enter the faucet) and the Largest Tab should be facing toward the back of the faucet. If you don`t do it this way, the outside collar will not properly fit.
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Kindle Customer

09.01.2021

6/10

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Not all Ladylux models use this cartridge !
There are two versions of the ladylux kitchen faucets. This cartridge does not fit mine (shown), which apparently uses part # 07 000 000. It took me a while to find a plumber who was interested in fixing my 25 year old Grohe. Now I find that I've got the wrong part. Probably too late to return the part. :(
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Senticz

09.01.2021

10/10

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Великолепно

Finally a good showerhead, forget those stainless steel 304 items for 35 - 65 euros, tried 3 so far for in total a half year, all got rust on them!! It's not a hobby to replace the showerhead every 2 months!! This one from the A brand Grohe should give us rest and peace in the shower now, thank you for still making quality products!
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Arnaldo J.

09.01.2021

10/10

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Великолепно

Me encanta la estetica que tiene Grohe, muy buen producto y me encanta que sea tan grande la ducha.
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Fred Taylor Farris

09.01.2021

10/10

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This is a major upgrade over a cheaper no name version. We absolutely love it.
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farra

09.01.2021

10/10

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I'm so happy with this product.
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SP

09.01.2021

10/10

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Великолепно

I replaced a cheaply made small rainfall shower head with this one. I separately purchased a long arm so that it would work for my shower and some shower tape so it would be a snug fit. It took me (petite female, capable with tools) less than 15 minutes to remove my old, rusted, shower head and put this one on. The hardest part was how large it is and so a bit cumbersome. It was WELL WORTH IT. I have good shower pressure, but that is not what this is about, and you should know that. This is not about a torrential downpour. This is not about a hurricane. You should not buy this if you want to feel like you're getting a massage via downpour.

This is an East Coast summer rainfall -- lovely, and relaxing, where the air smells like asphalt and happiness afterward and kids play in puddles.... This is NOT a 3pm daily Florida monsoon where people take cover. Know what you're looking for, and enjoy your new shower experience. I know I am.
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funbear

09.01.2021

8/10

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Хорошо

First, the pros, the head is gorgeous as is all Grohe finishes....
very well designed spray pattern... a lot of the Grohe price is in the finish...not just the looks, but the durability, Grohe finishes LAST! I have been installing Grohe Fixtures for 25 yrs now, and many of the original fixtures still look as good as new.
As for the slight downer... its water flow. AS everyone knows, there is water limitations on plumbing products, so Grohe must follow these limitations. This head puts about 1.75gpm...not a lot for a big head... with more openings, you get reduced pressure. So the flow is not strong for sure.... however, much of this depends on your water pressure. If you are running 80psi pressure, this head performs well, very acceptable, not amazing though, as it still has a flow limiter. I turned down my water pressure to 55psi, which some homes have, and the flow is a bit too slow to get excited about any rain head like this, its not unique to the Grohe head. So first check your pressure...if too low, can can you put a booster on it ? At 80psi, I think you will be happy with the head, its a joy having it rain from above...but if you have <60psi, u might be dissapointed.... with any rain head, not unique to this one...
I went with 4 stars, as I think Grohe should explain this in their advertisement so users know what to expect.... otherwise, I would have to give it 5 stars... performs well, looks amazing, with Grohe quality.
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Hawaii

09.01.2021

8/10

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The Grohe 26570000 rain shower mono 310 cube shower head in starlight chrome is a real looker. At just over 12 inches by 12 inches, it produces a rainfall shower pattern suitable for sharing. It has 121 nozzles, spaces about 1 inch apart, which together can only deliver 1.75 gpm, which is a laughably small flow rate for a rainshower head of this size, but is limited by US regulations. I really hate flow restrictors. I take shorter showers, and would appreciate a higher flow rate, which would allow them to be even shorter!

As others have said, the satisfaction you get from this shower head will be proportional to your bathroom's water pressure. While the web page says it weighs 7 pounds, I placed in on a kitchen scale, and the Starlight Chrome version came in at 4 pounds, 5.9 ounces. I thought that this was stainless steel, but lightly tapping on both sides, it sounds (and feels) like plastic. For that, I'm disappointed.

This comes with Grohe's "speed clean anti-lime" system, which translated by me, means 'silicone nozzles, that you push with your finger to dislodge calcium hard water deposits’. I've had less than perfect luck with similar product claims by other manufacturers, so we'll have to wait to see how well Grohe's work.

Overall, the Mono 310 in Starlight Chrome is a really nice looking shower head. Is it worth $272 (current sale price)? Your call. For me, I really thought I'd be getting metal, and not plastic shower head for that price, especially when ordered from Grohe.
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Brian

09.01.2021

8/10

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GROHE 26570000 Rainshower Mono 310 Cube Shower Head, Starlight Chrome

This showerhead is absolutely stunning to look at. The very large cube-shaped head in shiny chrome just looks fantastic. However, usability and water pressure are a bit lacking. It's tough for me to be harsh with a Grohe product because I love this brand but this specific showerhead just comes up a tad short on the pressure even for a rainfall showerhead. I attribute this to the size which is the exact thing I love about the look of the product. So it's a bit of a double-edged sword.

The quality is fantastic. It is a Grohe product, it is without a doubt a product that is built to last. It is extremely thin for a showerhead but has a very wide surface area. This is really a showerhead you have to mount directly overhead to get the most out of the performance. Unless there is another way to increase the pressure a bit but still this is designed to be a rainfall showerhead which is not going to produce a high amount of water pressure. At least any that I have used. This one just has a little less than others I have tried but again is the largest surface area I have ever had as well.

My take, if your looking for the aesthetic appeal this is without a doubt one of the best looking shower heads I have ever used. If you're not used to rainfall showerheads this may be a bit of an extreme switch since it is one of the lower pressure of that style I have ever used. It isn't so dramatic if positioned directly overhead which is really where these are meant to be mounted. Grohe has been reliable and I have no reason to think this isn't the same as others I have had. Just from installation to the little bit of use I have done thus far it feels like a very well made product and durable.
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Kiyo M.

09.01.2021

6/10

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 Although not as heavy as the ridiculous weight of the Grohe Allure 230 (which is actually smaller too!), the Mono 310 is still a pretty heavy rainshower, so you definitely need to change your showerarm as well for it to support it.

While Grohe has a premium look, I don't feel the performance merits the high price. I also tried a much cheaper rainshower and the pressure force is way better than the amount these Grohe rainshowers put out.

Personally, I don't feel I'm getting my showers worth under these. Honestly, I can care less about aesthetics because in the end, it's about the actual shower experience. Sorry, but I think Grohe showers are overpriced and there are much cheaper alternatives that perform way better; although they may not look as nice.

If you like super thin flow and care more about the aesthetics, these may be for you.
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Dane Alexander O'Leary

09.01.2021

10/10

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Prior to this showerhead, I had never used any Grohe products. In terms of high-end kitchen and bathroom fittings, I was more familiar with Moen, Kholer, and Delta. But having used the Grohe Rainshower Mono 310 Cube showerhead, I now firmly believe that Grohe is every bit as good as those other more well-known brands. Or perhaps even better.

First, the showerhead is *very* heavy. In fact, when I first installed it, the arm on which I installed this showerhead noticeably drooped a bit under the weight of the head. I ended up taking the head back off and making sure to tighten the arm as much as was possible before putting the head back on the arm.

When I fired up the showerhead for the first time, I was shocked by how much I liked it. To be clear, I've always preferred more forceful showerheads, but I've been going with rainfall-style showerheads recently because they don't use as much water, which is better for the environment (and for my wallet!). Occasionally, I'll come across a showerhead (usually in hotels) that manages to balance water pressure with a rainfall-esque head, but it wasn't until this Grohe Rainshower Mono 310 Cube showerhead that I managed to achieve this delicate balance in my own home.

This showerhead is a 1.75gpm head, which, in my experience, is on the higher end of water output for rainfall-style showers. In terms of actual usage, this translates to a really nice shower experience: I always feel as though I'm getting properly "soaked" when I use this shower head. Plus, the actual rainfall has just enough pressure to ensure that rinsing shampoo and conditioner from my hair doesn't take twenty minutes.

If there's a downside to this showerhead, it's the price; at the time of this review, the Grohe Rainshower Mono 310 Cube showerhead will run you over $340, which is quite expensive for just a showerhead (i.e. doesn't come bundled with the flow limiter or anything like that). But I personally feel this is a situation where you "get what you pay for."

For anyone looking for a rainfall showerhead who's willing to spend the money, you really can't go wrong here.
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Jessica

09.01.2021

10/10

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This thing is made so pretty. I do recommend at least a 17” shower arm. We bought a 12” at first and it was too close to the wall. Also, for most standard shower arm heights, it’s going to be very low with a straight arm. My husband is 5’11 and he had maybe 3-4” clearance above his head. We got a 17 in gooseneck shower arm from here on amazon. The Grohe one was really expensive so we got the Purelux one and I’m super happy with it. Since I’ve installed this twice, I can tell you, it is very easy to install. I did use an adjustable wrench to tighten the shower head onto the arm but I wrapped a piece of paper towel around the nut first so that it wouldn’t scratch. I have super hard water and after about 4 uses, when I went to change the shower head, all the water droplets just wiped off the finish like nothing. If you’re looking for pressure, look elsewhere. This is a rainfall shower head and your mostly getting gravity from what I can tell. I can turn my face into the rainfall without feeling like someone is trying to put a fire out. Super pleased with this shower head.
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Chris W.

09.01.2021

10/10

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This is a really nice showerhead. It is easy to install and it looks really nice when installed. It does have a flow limited on it so that is a bummer but there are ways to increase the pressure. This thing is really big so remember that when you are looking to get one. Other than the size which didn't bother me this is perfect. Do you want to feel like you are in a rainfall, get it? Do you want something aesthetically pleasing? Got you covered. Want something tough? Here you go.

It took under a half an hour to install the head. You remove your old one and you install the new one. Make sure that you wrap some take around the threads in order to make sure the connection is tight and you are set.

If you want a good showerhead this could work. Remember that the pressure in your house might have an effect on the shower but other then that I really like it.
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Earth Spirits

09.01.2021

10/10

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This is a luxurious shower head. It really defines what I think of when I hear RainShower. It is large at over a square foot in surface area. That size fits in 121 individual nozzles which creates a large coverage area. Grohe calls it DreamSpray. I think it is one of the best designs in a rain shower head. Unlike some heads it doesn't leak and drip for a long time after the water is turned off. I think it is a nicely evolved design.
The Starlight Chrome finish is flawless, uniform and brilliant. This head needs to be mounted in a plumb orientation so that the head sits level. It does feature a 10 degree swiveling ball joint to assist with positioning. The silicone nozzles are easy to keep clean and maintain, even if used with hard water. The 1/2" fitting and 1.75 gpm rating keep it in the WaterSense realm while providing a good rain shower experience. 5 stars.
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WOLF F.

09.01.2021

8/10

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Хорошо

I love this product. It is beautiful, it is sleek, it looks like a race car. And I really wanted it to work. Really looked forward to my rain shower. This thing is heavy and it took a little effort to install it. It was replacing a smaller regular type shower head. My wife and I looked at it installed and it looked so inviting. My wife was to be the first one to enjoy it. But, there was no rain shower, there were no sprinkles, there was just drops. Only drips of water, not enough to shampoo your hair or shave your beard. Barely noticeable. I removed the head, checked everything, all connection and reinstalled. No avail. It just did not work. So back to old shower head which works fine and with force. So there is something inside the Grohe that either restricts the flow or does some other funky thing. So sad it didn't work for us.
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Характеристи Grohe Plus 23870003, рычажный

Общие характеристики
Тип смесителя : однорычажный
Назначение : для раковины (умывальника)
Запорный клапан : керамический картридж
Покрытие : хром
Форма излива : традиционная
Эко-режим : есть
Максимальный расход воды : 5.7 л/мин
Тип : смеситель
Лейка : приобретается отдельно
Материал : латунь
Тип излива : фиксированный
Вид излива : традиционный
Запорный клапан : керамический картридж
Функции : экономичный режим
Особенности : аэратор, донный клапан, поворотный излив, система быстрого монтажа
Назначение : для раковины (умывальника)
Управление : рычажное
Монтаж
Система быстрого монтажа : есть
Присоединительный размер : 3/8"
Встраиваемый : нет
Количество монтажных отверстий : есть
Тип подводки : гибкая
Монтаж : горизонтальный
Присоединительный размер : 3/8"
Диаметр монтажных отверстий : 34 мм
Тип подводки : гибкая
Комплектация
Донный клапан : есть
Аэратор : есть
Особенности
Ширина : 172 мм
Длина излива : 111 мм
Высота излива : 105 мм
Глубина : 111 мм
Высота : 172 мм
Технические характеристики
Комплектация : Смеситель для раковины - 1 шт. Комплект гибкой подводки - 1 шт. Сливной гарнитур - 1 шт. Инструкция - 1 шт.
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