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- + Ручка крана почернела на первый день использования. Помыл сантехнику обычным средством. Продавец отказался делать замену, а официальный магазин Grohe ответил, что использовался агрессивный раствор. Хочу направить производителю моющего средства претензию, что его средство это агрессивный раствор и продавать его нельзя, нужно запретить.
- - Полагаю что продают за большие деньги дешевые китайские подделки.
- + Высокое качество
- - Нет
- + Отличный смеситель, вопросов к нему нет
- - Система запора слива на мой взгляд в нашей стране не пользуется...
The replacement cartridge was less than 10% of the cost of the original faucet and took me about 90 minutes to replace. Most of that time was trying to figure out how to remove the handle so I could gain access to the cartridge. If I had to do it again, it would probably take 10 minutes.
Once you get the faucet handle off, replacement is relatively straightforward. Getting the faucet handle off mine was not easy. There is one screw to undo, but the handle was stuck firmly in place even after removing it. I ended up manhandling it off using a mallet to bang firmly but gently on the handle (not sure this helped that much) and screwdriver as a lever (this did the trick). I wedged the shaft of a flathead screwdriver between the short tail side of the handle and the cylindrical metal casing and levered it until it finally came off. As I worked on it, the entire old cartridge started to come apart inside. This disturbingly increasing looseness felt like I was breaking the whole faucet, but once I got it apart I realized that the old cartridge was taking the brunt of the force.
I've attached a photo showing how the Ladylux Plus handle connects to the cartridge. The new cartridge is already installed. In my particular scenario, I had to re-use a few external fittings from around the original cartridge - the white collar around the cartridge as well as a plastic fitting that connects the metal elbow that the handle screws into. There's some gunk on the metal elbow where it attached to the handle - mineral deposits or corrosion that formed over time which I think made the handle hard to separate from the elbow. There were some leftover unnecessary parts that came in the new cartridge box that I didn't need.
Protips:
Cover your drain before unscrewing anything. You don't want to lose any parts down there.
Take several sharp photo of the old cartridge and fittings as you take it out so you can recall how parts were oriented.
Set aside plenty of time to work on this. If you're not mechanically inclined, invite a friend to hang out with you who is.
All in all, I'm glad I was able to replace the cartridge and not the entire faucet. I do wish I had a photo like the one I'm attaching to guide me - all the diagrams I found were helpful but not literal enough to hint me into how much force I ended up needing to apply to get the handle off.



This particular faucet model is discontinued but replacement parts are still available. I found a plumbing supply shop that had the part, but on a whim, I decided to check Amazon.. lo and behold, here it is and at half the price of the plumbing supply shop. The relatively low price was a surprise, given that the cost of the faucet was an arm and a leg.
This is an OEM replacement unit from Grohe, so no issues here. For the most part, the cartridge is exactly the same as the one I am replacing. However, my faucet had a rubber O-ring while this replacement model had a plastic sleeve. No problem - I just reused my old O-ring.
Replacement was very straightforward, and I took care to take my time. I didn't take photos but I should have in order to remember the exact positions of the handle before I started. But that only slowed me down by a minute or so. You will need a phillips head screwdriver, and a 2.5 mm allen wrench. You will also need to shut off the water that feeds into this faucet. I estimated it took me 30 minutes (just being extra careful and examining each piece, testing the fit, positions, cleaning the reused parts, etc.) total. If I had to do it again, I could do it in 15 minutes now that I know what to do.
I have another one of these faucets in the house, and if I was smart, I should buy another unit for that faucet, just in case (which at some point, the cartridge will need replacement in the future due to daily usage).











This is an East Coast summer rainfall -- lovely, and relaxing, where the air smells like asphalt and happiness afterward and kids play in puddles.... This is NOT a 3pm daily Florida monsoon where people take cover. Know what you're looking for, and enjoy your new shower experience. I know I am.

very well designed spray pattern... a lot of the Grohe price is in the finish...not just the looks, but the durability, Grohe finishes LAST! I have been installing Grohe Fixtures for 25 yrs now, and many of the original fixtures still look as good as new.
As for the slight downer... its water flow. AS everyone knows, there is water limitations on plumbing products, so Grohe must follow these limitations. This head puts about 1.75gpm...not a lot for a big head... with more openings, you get reduced pressure. So the flow is not strong for sure.... however, much of this depends on your water pressure. If you are running 80psi pressure, this head performs well, very acceptable, not amazing though, as it still has a flow limiter. I turned down my water pressure to 55psi, which some homes have, and the flow is a bit too slow to get excited about any rain head like this, its not unique to the Grohe head. So first check your pressure...if too low, can can you put a booster on it ? At 80psi, I think you will be happy with the head, its a joy having it rain from above...but if you have <60psi, u might be dissapointed.... with any rain head, not unique to this one...
I went with 4 stars, as I think Grohe should explain this in their advertisement so users know what to expect.... otherwise, I would have to give it 5 stars... performs well, looks amazing, with Grohe quality.

As others have said, the satisfaction you get from this shower head will be proportional to your bathroom's water pressure. While the web page says it weighs 7 pounds, I placed in on a kitchen scale, and the Starlight Chrome version came in at 4 pounds, 5.9 ounces. I thought that this was stainless steel, but lightly tapping on both sides, it sounds (and feels) like plastic. For that, I'm disappointed.
This comes with Grohe's "speed clean anti-lime" system, which translated by me, means 'silicone nozzles, that you push with your finger to dislodge calcium hard water deposits’. I've had less than perfect luck with similar product claims by other manufacturers, so we'll have to wait to see how well Grohe's work.
Overall, the Mono 310 in Starlight Chrome is a really nice looking shower head. Is it worth $272 (current sale price)? Your call. For me, I really thought I'd be getting metal, and not plastic shower head for that price, especially when ordered from Grohe.

This showerhead is absolutely stunning to look at. The very large cube-shaped head in shiny chrome just looks fantastic. However, usability and water pressure are a bit lacking. It's tough for me to be harsh with a Grohe product because I love this brand but this specific showerhead just comes up a tad short on the pressure even for a rainfall showerhead. I attribute this to the size which is the exact thing I love about the look of the product. So it's a bit of a double-edged sword.
The quality is fantastic. It is a Grohe product, it is without a doubt a product that is built to last. It is extremely thin for a showerhead but has a very wide surface area. This is really a showerhead you have to mount directly overhead to get the most out of the performance. Unless there is another way to increase the pressure a bit but still this is designed to be a rainfall showerhead which is not going to produce a high amount of water pressure. At least any that I have used. This one just has a little less than others I have tried but again is the largest surface area I have ever had as well.
My take, if your looking for the aesthetic appeal this is without a doubt one of the best looking shower heads I have ever used. If you're not used to rainfall showerheads this may be a bit of an extreme switch since it is one of the lower pressure of that style I have ever used. It isn't so dramatic if positioned directly overhead which is really where these are meant to be mounted. Grohe has been reliable and I have no reason to think this isn't the same as others I have had. Just from installation to the little bit of use I have done thus far it feels like a very well made product and durable.

While Grohe has a premium look, I don't feel the performance merits the high price. I also tried a much cheaper rainshower and the pressure force is way better than the amount these Grohe rainshowers put out.
Personally, I don't feel I'm getting my showers worth under these. Honestly, I can care less about aesthetics because in the end, it's about the actual shower experience. Sorry, but I think Grohe showers are overpriced and there are much cheaper alternatives that perform way better; although they may not look as nice.
If you like super thin flow and care more about the aesthetics, these may be for you.

First, the showerhead is *very* heavy. In fact, when I first installed it, the arm on which I installed this showerhead noticeably drooped a bit under the weight of the head. I ended up taking the head back off and making sure to tighten the arm as much as was possible before putting the head back on the arm.
When I fired up the showerhead for the first time, I was shocked by how much I liked it. To be clear, I've always preferred more forceful showerheads, but I've been going with rainfall-style showerheads recently because they don't use as much water, which is better for the environment (and for my wallet!). Occasionally, I'll come across a showerhead (usually in hotels) that manages to balance water pressure with a rainfall-esque head, but it wasn't until this Grohe Rainshower Mono 310 Cube showerhead that I managed to achieve this delicate balance in my own home.
This showerhead is a 1.75gpm head, which, in my experience, is on the higher end of water output for rainfall-style showers. In terms of actual usage, this translates to a really nice shower experience: I always feel as though I'm getting properly "soaked" when I use this shower head. Plus, the actual rainfall has just enough pressure to ensure that rinsing shampoo and conditioner from my hair doesn't take twenty minutes.
If there's a downside to this showerhead, it's the price; at the time of this review, the Grohe Rainshower Mono 310 Cube showerhead will run you over $340, which is quite expensive for just a showerhead (i.e. doesn't come bundled with the flow limiter or anything like that). But I personally feel this is a situation where you "get what you pay for."
For anyone looking for a rainfall showerhead who's willing to spend the money, you really can't go wrong here.

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