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The lack of integrated service stop could be a deal killer
Some places (NYC/SF) require service stops in rough-ins. The goal is to quickly contain leaks without shutting down water to an entire building. It makes sense. That's where this rough-in (and by default any associated valves) falls seriously short. The "optional" service stop go into the cartridge and not the rough-in. Cartridge vs rough-in service stops will vary from inspector to inspector. It might be OK or you might be told it's not acceptable and you're stuck with several hundred dollars of plumbing gear you can't use. It's a major short-coming of this Grohe design. The older GroheFlex rough-ins had integrated rough-ins.
The only reason why this wouldn't have integrated service stops is a cheap, bad cost savings attempt by Grohe. It's a very bad move on their part, and their reputation has gone down several notches in my mind.
The only reason why this wouldn't have integrated service stops is a cheap, bad cost savings attempt by Grohe. It's a very bad move on their part, and their reputation has gone down several notches in my mind.
Easy installation
We wanted three shower heads in our shower that we would be able to control as we used them without having to install 3 separate valves. this product made the installation super easy and looks clean. We couldn’t be happier.
Should come with integrated stops
This rough-in box is needed if you are going to use a Grohe Grohtherm shower valve trim. It is physically larger than similar rough-in boxes from competing brands, so locating it between studs can be more of a challenge. But is fairly easy to install - once you figure out the installation instructions!
It works well and I would have given it 5 stars if not for two things: it should come with integrated stops (they are optional to purchase to install in the trims), and the REALLY poor installation instructions. Like many European products the instructions are a series of diagrams with no text. And some of the diagrams are difficult to figure out. Grohe has on-line installation videos, but with no narration - similar problem. This resulted in me having to call Grohe tech support. Really annoying. But after you have installed one and learned the subtleties, subsequent ones should be easy.
It works well and I would have given it 5 stars if not for two things: it should come with integrated stops (they are optional to purchase to install in the trims), and the REALLY poor installation instructions. Like many European products the instructions are a series of diagrams with no text. And some of the diagrams are difficult to figure out. Grohe has on-line installation videos, but with no narration - similar problem. This resulted in me having to call Grohe tech support. Really annoying. But after you have installed one and learned the subtleties, subsequent ones should be easy.
A Must Have for Installing Grohe Shower Controls
This is a review of Grohe 35601000 Rapido Smartbox Universal Rough-In Box
I am installing this shower control unit in my housekeeper’s bathroom (Figure-1).
It is the GROHE 24110000 Grohtherm Single Function 2-Handle Thermostatic Trim, Starlight Chrome.
In order to do that, I needed the corresponding rough-in box. This particular model works with several models of Grohe shower controls.
Note: Unless you have some plumbing experience, and the right tools, I would recommend having a professional plumber install it for you.
The Unit (Figure-2)
The unit itself has:
• 3 outlets 1/2-inch female
• 2 inlets 1/2-inch female, for hot/cold water supply
It fits into a hole with a diameter about 5.5 inches (13.9cm)
Once the unit is through the wall, and properly mounted, you can attach the input water lines, and up to three output devices. The unit can be mounted on solid and dry walls (Figure-3).
As you can see, I had to remove the drywall in her closet to get to the plumbing. I plan on installing a door there for easier access. I then cut an access hole into the shower, poked the unit through, and mounted it to the back with a piece of particle board. I have roughed-in the plumbing, but have not yet connected it
In this image, you can see the unit coming into the shower (Figure-4).
Okay, it looks pretty messy; however, the type of shower construction used on this old shower made it almost impossible to cut a perfectly round hole without damaging the surrounding tiles. The good news is that this rough-in box is very versatile and forgiving. Once I do of bit of retiling, and add the trim piece, you will never know.
And, that is this end of this review, because it is all about the rough-in box; not the shower controls.
But I will say this… It is designed in an almost intuitive way, and very well built. I take my hat off to the designers at Grohe.
FYI: On the seller’s page is an excellent video on this product and its installation.
Happy Plumbing.
I am installing this shower control unit in my housekeeper’s bathroom (Figure-1).
It is the GROHE 24110000 Grohtherm Single Function 2-Handle Thermostatic Trim, Starlight Chrome.
In order to do that, I needed the corresponding rough-in box. This particular model works with several models of Grohe shower controls.
Note: Unless you have some plumbing experience, and the right tools, I would recommend having a professional plumber install it for you.
The Unit (Figure-2)
The unit itself has:
• 3 outlets 1/2-inch female
• 2 inlets 1/2-inch female, for hot/cold water supply
It fits into a hole with a diameter about 5.5 inches (13.9cm)
Once the unit is through the wall, and properly mounted, you can attach the input water lines, and up to three output devices. The unit can be mounted on solid and dry walls (Figure-3).
As you can see, I had to remove the drywall in her closet to get to the plumbing. I plan on installing a door there for easier access. I then cut an access hole into the shower, poked the unit through, and mounted it to the back with a piece of particle board. I have roughed-in the plumbing, but have not yet connected it
In this image, you can see the unit coming into the shower (Figure-4).
Okay, it looks pretty messy; however, the type of shower construction used on this old shower made it almost impossible to cut a perfectly round hole without damaging the surrounding tiles. The good news is that this rough-in box is very versatile and forgiving. Once I do of bit of retiling, and add the trim piece, you will never know.
And, that is this end of this review, because it is all about the rough-in box; not the shower controls.
But I will say this… It is designed in an almost intuitive way, and very well built. I take my hat off to the designers at Grohe.
FYI: On the seller’s page is an excellent video on this product and its installation.
Happy Plumbing.
2 out of 3 broken.
Bought three of these and two were broken. Didn't find out until after the return period so had to buy another. That one was cracked down the middle so now I gotta wait another day to finish and secure the water supply. Thanks grohe....
Update. Rough in was a breeze. MAKE SURE you order new and immediately return to Amazon anything that looks like it was opened. It seems Plumbers don't like how complicated this can be and send it back.
Update. Rough in was a breeze. MAKE SURE you order new and immediately return to Amazon anything that looks like it was opened. It seems Plumbers don't like how complicated this can be and send it back.
Easiest multi head shower and or tub valve 1 could ever roughed.
Excellent product.
See my longer review on this with the 3 way diverted trim that specs to this box.
This is an installers dream..
Make sure that trim is ON SITE FOR THE TILE PORTION OF YOUR JOB!
See my longer review on this with the 3 way diverted trim that specs to this box.
This is an installers dream..
Make sure that trim is ON SITE FOR THE TILE PORTION OF YOUR JOB!
Excellent pressure and flow - Box does it's intended function.
I like this box. I have no pressure and flow issues with this universal rough-in box at my house. In my shower I have set up for a Grohtherm Smartcontrol Triple Function Thermostatic Trim with Control Module using 1) a Speakman S-2252 fixed shower head, 2) a Grohe 28444En0 hand-held shower head, and 3) a bathtub spout. When I use the fixed and the hand-held at the same time, I see no problem with the pressure on either head. ( I do not use the tub spout at the same time as the other two). The Grohtherm Smartcontrol has three individual volume adjustments. I have satisfactory volume for the two shower heads operating simultaneously at less than full volume adjustment.
Was Easy to Install and Works Properly
I installed this in a shower along with the GROHE 24107000 Grohtherm Single Function 2-Handle Thermostatic control. It was pretty straightforward to install. Hard to say much more - it does what it's supposed to do and the instructions are straightforward. If you can do plumbing, you can install this.
Extension Kit Needed
This was installed to the Maximum depth mark on the unit, but a $120 extension kit (Grohe 14048000 Universal Extension Set) was needed to complete installation. Very disappointing. Had I known an extension kit was needed for the maximum depth, the rough in would have been placed differently.
Got the Job Done
My Plumber had me order this, so he could rough in a 3 button controller. Got the job done.
Отличная модель
- + Вещь
Очень точный
Можно использовать как полочку для шампуня - - не нашел
Внимание: подходит только для левого расположения горячей воды, иначе термостат работать не будет.
эксцентрики могут ставиться только родные - там обратный клапан, обрезать из нельзя иначе это работать не будет
Хорошая модель
- + первый смеситель был бракованный, спасибо менеджеру с магазина, поменял на другой, теперь все работает. снимаю одну звезду за ЯМаркет и их безразличие.
- - не нашел
ЯМаркет поступил не лучшим образом. закрыл спор без решение проблемы, и ушли в тинку, товар не наш решайте вопрос с продавцом, но деньги мы не вернем. так что покупать через Маркет не советую, они не решают вопросы. и закрывают спор. и больше до них не дозвониться и письма уходят в пустоту
Отличная модель
- + Очень качественный. Внешне шикарно выглядит. Очень удобно пользоваться. Полностью отрабатывает заявленные характеристики. Всё что нужно для монтажа - в комплекте поставки.
- - Иной раз по ошибке можно включить душ вместо наполнения ванны.
Grohe в очередной раз выпустил качественный продукт.
Отличная модель
- + Термостат
- - Слабый фиксатор при переключении с крана на Лейку душа
Кран хороший, но есть один минус, а именно процесс переключения с крана на Лейку душа, необходимо привыкать
Хорошая модель
- + качественный продукт известного производителя
- - пришел без документов, нет гарантийного талона
фирма фирмой, но с гарантией надежнее. Цена не три рубля
Отличная модель
- + Терморегулятор работает как надо
- - Правая ручка скрепит
В целом, первый раз пользуюсь подобным смесителем пока все нравится
Отличная модель
Регулировка потока и температуры на высоте, очень понравился смеситель, качество этой фирмы как всегда...
Отличная модель
Попробовал в первый раз поставить такой смеситель. Теперь всегда буду брать только термостатические смесители. Так как это очень удобно. Дизайн...
Отличная модель
- + Качественный, справляется со свой функцией.
- - К эргономике можно придраться) И напор воды уменьшился, но это решилось сменой лейки на более водосберегающую.
Была давняя проблема, когда на кухни включают воду, то в ванной либо лава из душа шла, либо куски льда сыпались,...
отличная модель
Кран, отличный 5 баллов. Смотреться великолепно. Качество, функциональность, дизайн на высшем уровне. В коробке вся документация, товар сложен аккуратно. Претензий и нареканий нет. Все работает, как положено, это моя новая любовь
Отличная модель
Хороший смеситель. В комментариях встречал что не четко выключает подачу воды в среднем положении, но...
отличная модель
Упокован как надо. Открыли, все необходимое для установке имеется. Стильный, крепкий моется без всяких усилий. Месяц в работе все прилично работает, пользуемся с большим удовольствием. Главное чтоб не подвел в дальнейшем.
Отличная модель
- + Удобство, безопасность для ребенка.
- - Скачки температуры сильно сглаживает но не исключает.
Отличный смеситель, так как температура воды в водопроводе у меня очень высокая (85) Для того, что бы ребенок не обвалился при самостоятельном...
Отличная модель
Термостат работает как надо. Как по мне так немного широковат, но это скорее скажем так особенность...
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