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- Не нужно постоянно крутить кран для набора воды в кастрюлю или наполнения чайника.
- Облегчает ополаскивание раковины и повседневные кухонные задачи, делая жизнь хозяйки проще.
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- Большой размер и мощная струя подходят для глубоких и просторных раковин, минимизируя брызги.
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- Большой размер и мощная струя вызывают разлёт брызг по кухне, особенно при мытье мелких предметов вроде ложек.
- Неудобно использовать в компактных кухнях с узкими раковинами.
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Easy Installation.
Installation is pretty straightforward and not very difficult. All that's needed are some wood screws to mount the box and 1/2" NPT adapters. In my case, I used PEX tubing adapters. Before you mount it, make sure you have your tile and wall board selected and measured. There is just over an inch of error when you mount it for where it needs to protrude beyond the finished wall. Once you have that, just screw in the adapters with some thread sealant, connect the plumbing, screw the box in, and turn on the water to check for leaks. After that, turn the water off and install the service stops to prevent your hot and cold from mixing if you're doing a remodel. Next, once the waterproofing on the wall is finished, it includes a membrane that you can thin set around this rough-in box. I'm really excited about Grohe's thermostatic shower control valve. It'll be a nice improvement over the track home quality products in the rest of the house.
The lack of integrated service stop could be a deal killer
Some places (NYC/SF) require service stops in rough-ins. The goal is to quickly contain leaks without shutting down water to an entire building. It makes sense. That's where this rough-in (and by default any associated valves) falls seriously short. The "optional" service stop go into the cartridge and not the rough-in. Cartridge vs rough-in service stops will vary from inspector to inspector. It might be OK or you might be told it's not acceptable and you're stuck with several hundred dollars of plumbing gear you can't use. It's a major short-coming of this Grohe design. The older GroheFlex rough-ins had integrated rough-ins.
The only reason why this wouldn't have integrated service stops is a cheap, bad cost savings attempt by Grohe. It's a very bad move on their part, and their reputation has gone down several notches in my mind.
The only reason why this wouldn't have integrated service stops is a cheap, bad cost savings attempt by Grohe. It's a very bad move on their part, and their reputation has gone down several notches in my mind.
Easy installation
We wanted three shower heads in our shower that we would be able to control as we used them without having to install 3 separate valves. this product made the installation super easy and looks clean. We couldn’t be happier.
Should come with integrated stops
This rough-in box is needed if you are going to use a Grohe Grohtherm shower valve trim. It is physically larger than similar rough-in boxes from competing brands, so locating it between studs can be more of a challenge. But is fairly easy to install - once you figure out the installation instructions!
It works well and I would have given it 5 stars if not for two things: it should come with integrated stops (they are optional to purchase to install in the trims), and the REALLY poor installation instructions. Like many European products the instructions are a series of diagrams with no text. And some of the diagrams are difficult to figure out. Grohe has on-line installation videos, but with no narration - similar problem. This resulted in me having to call Grohe tech support. Really annoying. But after you have installed one and learned the subtleties, subsequent ones should be easy.
It works well and I would have given it 5 stars if not for two things: it should come with integrated stops (they are optional to purchase to install in the trims), and the REALLY poor installation instructions. Like many European products the instructions are a series of diagrams with no text. And some of the diagrams are difficult to figure out. Grohe has on-line installation videos, but with no narration - similar problem. This resulted in me having to call Grohe tech support. Really annoying. But after you have installed one and learned the subtleties, subsequent ones should be easy.
A Must Have for Installing Grohe Shower Controls
This is a review of Grohe 35601000 Rapido Smartbox Universal Rough-In Box
I am installing this shower control unit in my housekeeper’s bathroom (Figure-1).
It is the GROHE 24110000 Grohtherm Single Function 2-Handle Thermostatic Trim, Starlight Chrome.
In order to do that, I needed the corresponding rough-in box. This particular model works with several models of Grohe shower controls.
Note: Unless you have some plumbing experience, and the right tools, I would recommend having a professional plumber install it for you.
The Unit (Figure-2)
The unit itself has:
• 3 outlets 1/2-inch female
• 2 inlets 1/2-inch female, for hot/cold water supply
It fits into a hole with a diameter about 5.5 inches (13.9cm)
Once the unit is through the wall, and properly mounted, you can attach the input water lines, and up to three output devices. The unit can be mounted on solid and dry walls (Figure-3).
As you can see, I had to remove the drywall in her closet to get to the plumbing. I plan on installing a door there for easier access. I then cut an access hole into the shower, poked the unit through, and mounted it to the back with a piece of particle board. I have roughed-in the plumbing, but have not yet connected it
In this image, you can see the unit coming into the shower (Figure-4).
Okay, it looks pretty messy; however, the type of shower construction used on this old shower made it almost impossible to cut a perfectly round hole without damaging the surrounding tiles. The good news is that this rough-in box is very versatile and forgiving. Once I do of bit of retiling, and add the trim piece, you will never know.
And, that is this end of this review, because it is all about the rough-in box; not the shower controls.
But I will say this… It is designed in an almost intuitive way, and very well built. I take my hat off to the designers at Grohe.
FYI: On the seller’s page is an excellent video on this product and its installation.
Happy Plumbing.
I am installing this shower control unit in my housekeeper’s bathroom (Figure-1).
It is the GROHE 24110000 Grohtherm Single Function 2-Handle Thermostatic Trim, Starlight Chrome.
In order to do that, I needed the corresponding rough-in box. This particular model works with several models of Grohe shower controls.
Note: Unless you have some plumbing experience, and the right tools, I would recommend having a professional plumber install it for you.
The Unit (Figure-2)
The unit itself has:
• 3 outlets 1/2-inch female
• 2 inlets 1/2-inch female, for hot/cold water supply
It fits into a hole with a diameter about 5.5 inches (13.9cm)
Once the unit is through the wall, and properly mounted, you can attach the input water lines, and up to three output devices. The unit can be mounted on solid and dry walls (Figure-3).
As you can see, I had to remove the drywall in her closet to get to the plumbing. I plan on installing a door there for easier access. I then cut an access hole into the shower, poked the unit through, and mounted it to the back with a piece of particle board. I have roughed-in the plumbing, but have not yet connected it
In this image, you can see the unit coming into the shower (Figure-4).
Okay, it looks pretty messy; however, the type of shower construction used on this old shower made it almost impossible to cut a perfectly round hole without damaging the surrounding tiles. The good news is that this rough-in box is very versatile and forgiving. Once I do of bit of retiling, and add the trim piece, you will never know.
And, that is this end of this review, because it is all about the rough-in box; not the shower controls.
But I will say this… It is designed in an almost intuitive way, and very well built. I take my hat off to the designers at Grohe.
FYI: On the seller’s page is an excellent video on this product and its installation.
Happy Plumbing.
2 out of 3 broken.
Bought three of these and two were broken. Didn't find out until after the return period so had to buy another. That one was cracked down the middle so now I gotta wait another day to finish and secure the water supply. Thanks grohe....
Update. Rough in was a breeze. MAKE SURE you order new and immediately return to Amazon anything that looks like it was opened. It seems Plumbers don't like how complicated this can be and send it back.
Update. Rough in was a breeze. MAKE SURE you order new and immediately return to Amazon anything that looks like it was opened. It seems Plumbers don't like how complicated this can be and send it back.
Easiest multi head shower and or tub valve 1 could ever roughed.
Excellent product.
See my longer review on this with the 3 way diverted trim that specs to this box.
This is an installers dream..
Make sure that trim is ON SITE FOR THE TILE PORTION OF YOUR JOB!
See my longer review on this with the 3 way diverted trim that specs to this box.
This is an installers dream..
Make sure that trim is ON SITE FOR THE TILE PORTION OF YOUR JOB!
Excellent pressure and flow - Box does it's intended function.
I like this box. I have no pressure and flow issues with this universal rough-in box at my house. In my shower I have set up for a Grohtherm Smartcontrol Triple Function Thermostatic Trim with Control Module using 1) a Speakman S-2252 fixed shower head, 2) a Grohe 28444En0 hand-held shower head, and 3) a bathtub spout. When I use the fixed and the hand-held at the same time, I see no problem with the pressure on either head. ( I do not use the tub spout at the same time as the other two). The Grohtherm Smartcontrol has three individual volume adjustments. I have satisfactory volume for the two shower heads operating simultaneously at less than full volume adjustment.
Was Easy to Install and Works Properly
I installed this in a shower along with the GROHE 24107000 Grohtherm Single Function 2-Handle Thermostatic control. It was pretty straightforward to install. Hard to say much more - it does what it's supposed to do and the instructions are straightforward. If you can do plumbing, you can install this.
Extension Kit Needed
This was installed to the Maximum depth mark on the unit, but a $120 extension kit (Grohe 14048000 Universal Extension Set) was needed to complete installation. Very disappointing. Had I known an extension kit was needed for the maximum depth, the rough in would have been placed differently.
Got the Job Done
My Plumber had me order this, so he could rough in a 3 button controller. Got the job done.
Came with missing parts
Missing two SS screws that hold an internal plate in place. Discovered after install
This is the second bathroom we are installing the same controller
Slightly complicated install but overall straightforward once you get the hand of it.
Great pressure and love the overall end result.
Great pressure and love the overall end result.
great
works great
Quality brand that you can trust
I must have product for your shower trim
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reliable company always
good product as always.
Four Stars
great concept, needs some modifications to make it better
Quality product
Required item for valve I chose. Great quality, easy install
This box itself does what it is supposed to but the plethora of plastic makes install with soldering incredibly frustrating. Given the poor quality, design and install of the part that goes in this, I say STAY AWAY.
The Grohtherm smartbox product is cheap plastic with no thought for maintenance after install - so many tiny little bits for gunk and mold to collect. I rated it 1 star as well.
AVOID THIS GROHE PRODUCT LINE.
The Grohtherm smartbox product is cheap plastic with no thought for maintenance after install - so many tiny little bits for gunk and mold to collect. I rated it 1 star as well.
AVOID THIS GROHE PRODUCT LINE.
If you are a diy or even very experienced plumber, this is a tricky Installation and you better have a 5.5" diamond hole saw because the room for error between rough in box and finished cover plate is only about .5". Very nice finished look and works great, lousy instructions.
easy to work, very well made, no problems so far
Very easy to install. Makes a multi shower application install a snap . Good quality
This thing is made so pretty. I do recommend at least a 17” shower arm. We bought a 12” at first and it was too close to the wall. Also, for most standard shower arm heights, it’s going to be very low with a straight arm. My husband is 5’11 and he had maybe 3-4” clearance above his head. We got a 17 in gooseneck shower arm from here on amazon. The Grohe one was really expensive so we got the Purelux one and I’m super happy with it. Since I’ve installed this twice, I can tell you, it is very easy to install. I did use an adjustable wrench to tighten the shower head onto the arm but I wrapped a piece of paper towel around the nut first so that it wouldn’t scratch. I have super hard water and after about 4 uses, when I went to change the shower head, all the water droplets just wiped off the finish like nothing. If you’re looking for pressure, look elsewhere. This is a rainfall shower head and your mostly getting gravity from what I can tell. I can turn my face into the rainfall without feeling like someone is trying to put a fire out. Super pleased with this shower head.
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